KT4 Ultra Question

ok well this might be stupid of me to ask..but to me there are no stupid questions.
What is the best way to set up my hard drive and cd rom....can i use ATA 1 master and 1 slave..or do i need to use the ide 1 and ide 2 or how does it work...im just wondering if it would be better for me or should i leave things the way they are....i know this board has 1 ata slot and the harddrive supports ata..so i was just curious.
Specs.
MSI KT4 Ultra SR BIOS V1.3
Athlon XP 1700+ ThouroughBred @1.7ghz 140x12.5=1755Mhz
512 MB DDR PC2100 266Mhz
Gforce Ti 4600 128MB DDR 4xAGP
SoundBlaster Live Gamer 5.1 pci sound card
Maxtor 20Gb HD DiamondMax Plus D740X
Antec SL400 400watt PSU

you don't say what kind of cd-rom you have but anyways...
Set each up as a master on their own channel. If you set them up on the same channel, the channel will only run as fast as the slowest device, thus making your hard drive run slower.

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KT4-ULTRA questions

Okay I have recently purchased a KT4-ULTRA BSR, i have a 8500le right now thinking of upgrading to either a 9700pro or 9500pro will these cards work? You advertise 8x agp and ddr 400 but i have read nothing but problems running these items? currently i am running pc2700 at 180 fsb no problem! I am just concerned i dont want to spend the money only to have problems!!!! I understand that some of the bugginess is caused by via but are u and via working on fixing the situation?? ?(

Where did you read cache slows system
If you disable the cache it runs slower...Just use the optimized settings from bios and tweak a little bit here and there
You can't really squeeze much performance out unless you overclock some things then it also depends on what you are running under the hood.

KT4 Ultra-SR Questions

Set-up As follows:
AMD Athlon 1000Mhz Socket A CPU with Coolermaster Fan
512MB DDR333 PC2700 RAM
MSI KT4 Ultra - SR Motherboard with optional S & D Brackets
Liteon 52246S CD-RW (52x24x52)
Samsung 12x DVD-ROM
MSi Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 GFX Card (AGP 4x, 41.09 Drivers)
Seagate Barracuda 40Gb as master on IDE1
Maxtor Diamond Max 7200rpm 60Gb Drive as slave on IDE1
Creative SoundBlaster 5.1 Digital PCI
Creative DTT2200 5.1 Surround Speakers
Enermax CS-305 Black Case with Side window
Windows Xp Proffessional (no SP1)
A 350w Powerup powersupply (one that comes with the enermax cs-305 case)
Several Questions:
Processors/memeory
I thinking of changing the processor to an athlon xp. With one should i get? And why is that those processors which have the 333FSB are nearly £90 more expensive??? Does matching the fsb speed to your memeory speed increase peformance too?
Powersupplies
Is my current powersupply sufficient for my setup?
Is this PSW any good_ Q-Tec 550w Dual Fan (that is quite cheap)
And why is this one much more expensive? Enermax 460w
Cooling
using Fuzzy logic 4, the temp displayed is mostly 55-64. Is this too high? And can someone please explian how i find out the full load temps etc.
GFX Cards.
I have the 128MB agp 4x MSI GeForce4 ti4200 card running at 250 core/459 clock usign the MSIO clock tab in desktop properties. Can this safely go any higher?
USB Ports.
On my M/B i can get the top two ports to work fine, but not the bottom two. How come. I have the bracket installed also with the extra 2 usb ports - does this have something to do with it?
Thanks in advance.

1. KT4 Ultra can support upto the fastest XP2700+, you can get it provided you have money... Yes, FSB matching with memory speed the fastest.
2. Enermax has extra features such as fan-control adjust.
3. If it's idle, it's high. to get full load, just run some CPU benchmark and loop it.
4. Your question sounds like "if I buy lottery today will I win?" No comment on the overclockability.
5. Have you enabled ALL USB PORTs in the BIOS?

KT4 Ultra CPU Upgrade Question

I am trying to upgrade my CPU from a 2100 XP to a 2800 XP on my KT4 Ultra and am running into trouble. I was under the impression that all I had to do was turn up the FSB frequency in CMOS and everything would be OK howerver this doesn't appear to be the case. Currently the FSB Freq. is set to 100 and I can get it above 104 or the system will not POST. Has anyone out there put a 2800 with the latest BIOS in a KT4? What setting need to be changed and what values should be used in CMOS??
Help please!!!!

set to 166

MSI KT4 ULTRA BSR QUESTIONS

I just bought new stuff for my computer
kt4 Ultra bsr
AOPEN Geforce ti4200 128mb DVI
2200 XP CPU (IN A BOX)
256 ddram 333mhz
so i began rebuilding my computer,
first thing i did was moving the CLEAR CMOS to the right position (by the manual) then it wouldn´t boot, no lights, no fan movement, so i found out later on the internet that it was wrong, so i put the jumper in the other position as shown in the internet.
But when i start up the computer now it only shows
1500 XP 1350 mhz, should be 2200 xp - 1800mhz i think.
but it won´t start with the fsb at 133 mhz. what can i do ????
i have calculated the 5v * 30a + 3.3v * 14 = 196w (dont know what that mean hehe)
i just dont know what´s wrong huff plz anyone help ?

Hi,
unable to run FSB at 133Mhz is either two problem or both:
1. CPU Heatsink did not install properly, thermal grease applied wrongly
2. Power supply does not have enough power
Check both of them.
Your power supply is very weak for today's system. Please consider an upgrade. But don't blindly go for the bigger numbers -- 450W, 550W, survey more to know about the quality of the power supply, especially the +3.3V and +5V rails, which both should supply similar amount of current, ie +3.3V @ 35A, +5V @ 36A for a good 400W. For more insurance, go for the well known brand. But usually they cost more.

MSI KT4 Ultra! A little question.

Hello. )
I'm very interested, in the new MSI KT4 Ultra, but i've a doubt:
The pure version of the KT4 Ultra, has a fan on the chipset?
How many IDE channels come with this pure version?
Thank you, and sorry about my poor english. :D

You can modify de FSB in the bios, but there is a jumper that provides these 3 options, 100mhz, 133mhz and 166mhz. 100mhz for the duron cpu's, 133mhz for the Athlon xp Palomino and Tbred, and 166mhz for the athlon xp Barton ( not 100% confirmed).

Kt4 Ultra temp XP cooler and performance

hola, please intruct me
ive just build my kt4 ultra with an atlhon XP 2,2
and my temps are cpu 58 C when midle loaded and system temp 52 C, i dont know i its normal, im using the cooler that comes with the cpu
my question is that temp normal?
when i use the XP cooler of pc alert, the performance of the sistem change? how much?
thank you
excuse my english
KT 4 ULTRA
HD 80 GB 7200
512 RAM 21oo
Geforce 4 mx 440

The system temp sensor may be between the first PCI slot and AGP slot, or somewhere near there if not mistaken. If you use a hot graphics card, that part will get hot too. Even it it's not, bad air flow around that area will accumulate heat too. Try with your casing fully opened and compare. If the temp dropped, then it's OK. If not, then you might have an issue.
Again, as long as it's stable, any temperature is OK.

KT4 Ultra: conflict w/ expansion cards

This is my first post, so please be gentle. I recently built new PC for photo editing and want to keep this old KT4 Ultra computer for general usage right beside. Both are running Windows XP Home SP3.
My KT4 computer had HDD crash and after replacement and fresh istallation of XP I initially had following expansion cards inside:
USB Expansion card (w/ 4 USB ports) on Slot 2 (INT B#)
Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC on Slot 3 (INT D#)
Terratec EWX 24/96 Sound Card on Slot 6 (INT C#)
Everything was OK until I wanted a LAN connection for sharing of files (mostly) and Internet (via cable modem) between these two. Instead of a broadband wired router I opted for a Gigabit Ethernet card installing it on slot 5 (INT B#).
USB Expansion card (w/ 4 USB ports) on Slot 2 (INT B#)
Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC on Slot 3 (INT D#)
D-Link DGE-528T Gigabit Ethernet Adapter on Slot 5 (INT B#)
Terratec EWX 24/96 Sound Card on Slot 6 (INT C#)
Somehow didn't want to have it on slot 1, so close to video card. Unfortunately after this the sound card was dropped by the system, a yellow question mark in Device Manager.
Further I failed to instal my Bluetooth Dongle which I earlier had used succesfully for communication to my mobile phone. Now my Broadcom USB Bluetooth Device is put under Unknown in Device Manager.
I did experience problems with the sound card several years ago in this very same PC. That time I knew little about system and BIOS setting and had to use another PC for audio purposes (digitalizing of tapes and vinyl).
As reference I used the PCI Interrup Request Routing table, found on page 2-32 in KT4's manual. Funny thing is that Sandra XI tells now that my two Ethernet cards having both INT pin A# while by their slots they should be B# and D#. I don't have true understanding what this means though. In BIOS the PNP/PCI Configurations has all slot IRQs on Auto.
Is this conflict easily cured by re-positioning card(s) on other slot(s) or addressing IRQ settings manually, and if so how and in which order? Or should I remove all the cards and install them in certain order...?
I'm quite exhausted as I had some component issues with my new PC and now this KT4 once again rejects my sound card. Maybe I'm better off by installing it on my new PC, but then this failure with Bluetooth dongle, (which I put on the USB port of KT4, not on the USB exp. card.) Oh my, why can't sound card and ethernet card live together!?!
I would appreciate your help very highly.

Hope you get things like you want them!
Eh, made this in 2003, but I'm not sure if it isn't more confusing than anything else:
"The use and sharing of IRQs aren't mentioned in my MSI manual, (due to the APIC function I think), so I had to go to some ASUS manuals. As standards are standards, I believe things can't be to different. If someone has any addings or suggestions please come forward, so I can adjust the table.
*Please note that this is generally speaking and mainly for ASUS boards a few years old!
**Please note that you should not have any sharing with the IDE controller or similar!
***Please note that it is a good thing to have expansion PCI sound cards in slot 3!
****Please note that surprisingly enough it looks like PCI slot 2 would be free for any device, but AGP cards get hot and bigger so it is not a great idea.
IRQ sharing table
PCI 1 shares with PCI slot 5
2 shares with AGP and PCI slot 6, or sometimes with onboard IDE
3 shares not, or sometimes with onboard audio/modem
4 shares with onboard LAN
5 shares PCI slot 1
6 shares with AGP and PCI slot 5
AGP slot shares with PCI slots 5 and 6
USB 1 shares with USB 2, 3 and USB 2.0
2 shares with USB 1, 3 and USB 2.0
3 shares with USB 1, 2 and USB 2.0
USB 2.0 shares with USB 1, 2, and 3
Onboard audio/modemshares not, or sometimes with slot 3
Onboard LAN shares with PCI slot 4
Onboard IDE shares not, or sometimes with PCI slot 2 "
Normally it is best to let Windows or whatever OS you run do the job. Setting IRQ:s yourself is a (too) big assignment.

KT4 ULTRA / Promise Fasttrack TX2 100 RAID problems

I have my decided to retire my old MAXTOR and get 2 WD800JB for my new Promise Fasttrack TX2 100 RAID card. I set the RAID and stuff up everything is working fine but first I realized that my RAID benchmarks are low. I tried different stripe sizes(16/16 - 64/64), drivers and even tried both drives independent on different chanels RAID card.
I was still using old installed OS from my old HDD and I decided to install new OS on RAID 0 array and see how fast it boots up. I installed windows properly no problems but when I restart the system without WinXP CD in the CD drive RAID card did not boot up, I was getting an error message saying "error booting from the previous device" but when I put WinXP CD back in after cd boot screen it boots from RAID drives.
My RAID System;
KT4 ULTRA SR
Promise Fasttrack TX2 100
2 x WD800JB
here is my question; do you guys know any issues between KT4 ULTRA and Promise TX2 card. If no I'll get another card and see if there is sth wrong with this one.
btw my system is working fine!!!!

1 got the wd drives either jumperless........stand alone master or cable select
on the black end of the ide
2 have you set scsi second to cdrom in bios boot order
3 never have any other hard drives connected in the box when installing raid either

KT4-Ultra - RAID

Hi,
Two questions about the controller Promise 20376 of the KT4 Ultra:
- is there a way to set a trip size below 16ko? (I4ve 16, 32, 64, 128 and 256ko).
- is there a way to update the bios of the RAID controller ... if yes .. how ?
Thanks for any help

nah converters can be obtained here in Holland, in fact I have such converter.
It is working properly at least when my RAID is being detected by the kt4 mobo. Then fastrak376 does show up and on next boot it doesn't. Nope it not nothing to do with the converter since hooking one hard drive up to IDE3 results in the same problems.
Messing with the BIOS settings works properly from time to time, since I was able to install WinXP properly. Will continue this weekend putting some more grease on my 2000+ cpu so I can run at full speed (133fsb) and then last but not least finding out what the problem might be concerning the RAID issue, to me it is a buggy BIOS for some reason since this SERIAL ATA RAID option is faded out in the BIOS from time to time .. ?( .. Just like when you put an AGP 8x card in the mobo then the AGP 2x / 4x speed vanishes too, but that is understandable .. blah anyone to help? ..

Kt4 ultra + onboard cmi8738 + gforce fx 5200

I'm currently using a kt4 ultra mainboard with the onboard sound (cmi 8738) enabled and a gforce fx5200. The onboard sound controller is using spdif out. My problem is when i play some music and do some intensive 3D stuff, or play a intensive game the audio cuts/stutters. I'm using WINXP and noticed that agp and sound share the same IRQ. I searched google.com and i noticed this is cause the ACPI stuff witch controls irq assigment to spare some. I disabled this in bios, reinstalled WINXP with standard-pc HAL butt didn't managed to separate the agp from sound irq.
My question: how can i seperate agp and sound from using the same irq. I didn't find any option in the bios that allows me to change the irq of the agp or to change the irq from the onboard sound controller.
btw: i'm not planning to buy a new " external " soundcard, i want this to work! i payed enough for this fancy msi mainboard with onboard sound so I want to be able to use it.
I did also read http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/index.php?threadid=13332&boardid=13&styleid=1&sid=5caa627fda8260a2367a778ab5b77a82 so there are more users having the same problem
Greetz
Dave

I played around with the PCI latency, no result :(
My current setup:
kt4 ultra
athlon xp 2000+
256 mb memory
msi gforce 5200 fx
onboard cmi8738 enabled (spdif/out)
winxp professional + latest drivers liveupdate2 + latest bios versions
Problem: sound stutters/cuts/stops when moving "windows" in windows XP or when playing or using 3D stuff. Already replaced gforce fx5200 with older riva tnt2 = same problems.
Anyone got a clue? Or anyone knows how to seperate agp/sound irq?
Greetz
Dave

MSI KT4 ULTRA-BFISR + Ati Radeon 9700 pro = not good??

Hello everybody!
First of all, i youst have to say that i think MSI have the best motherboards....
Here's the problem (i haven't buyed anything yet!):
I am going to buy MSI KT4 ULTRA-BFISR and ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, but i have read many places that Radeon aint working with MSI KT4-based cards! Im am going to buy an 520W Power (i aint so good in english so i hope you now what i write :D )
I am also going to buy 2 x Cosair pc3500 xms ram... Is this one working with the motherboard by the way?
But my question is: Will the Ati Radeon 9700 pro work with this card? (i must remember to buy the 1.3 version!) I am gonna get my Radeon 9700 pro from USA, how can i now when i order that is an 1.3 card?
Thank you for answering! :]

I think also that even there is two drivers, that is not a reaseon why it isn't work. One time I install only standard VGA drivers, but result was that I got two standard VGA driver. 8o
First time I try without VIA drivers, then with 4.42 and 4.43 VIA drivers. Result was almost same all the time, it always crash when Nature test start, but this exist also to older mobo (Abit KT7A-RAID). Problem exits few games they lock up or stuttering. Ati demos works fine, but one time that car demo stuttering a lot, but I transfer data at same, so I'm not sure what was reason.
This moment I don't have possibilities to try Hyperion 4.45 drivers or something else, because it's my friend computer.
MSI KT4V 6712 (Bios 1.0)
AMD Athlon 1.2
512 MB DDR 333 RAM
SoundBlaster Live
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro (Club3D)
Power 300W
Realtek Ethernet card
Samsung 40GB harddrive
Samsung DVD
VIA 4.42 and 4.43
WIN98

KT4 Ultra FISR and Volcano 9 Cool Mod

I am building a system using the KT4 Ultra FISR and a 2800+. I am also using the Thermaltake Volcano 9 Coolmod fan which has LEDs on the fan. My question is this, the board has two sets of Power LED headers, a two pin and a three pin. The Coolmod is supposed to plug in to the Power LED header. Is it possible to use the three pin header for the fan and the two pin header for the case? I don't want to lose the front LED. I know Thermaltake says don't wire both front panel and Coolmod to the same header, but it doesn't say anything about two different headers. If someone can help, it would be greatly appreciated. I hope I made myself clear. Thanks in advance.

Do you mean to use the two pin JFP1 Power LED for the case and the 3 pin JFP2 for the Volcano mod? I dont think it should be a problem, my LED's are mixed and matched between the two headers. You could test it with a multimeter to see what the output of one header is while the other is connected to its LED.

MSI KT4 Ultra-SR (MS-6590) And IDE3

Rig is As Follows:
MSI KT4 Ultra-SR (MS-6590)
AMD Athlon 1000Mhz :(
512MB DDR333 (PC2700) x1 stick
MSI GeoForce 4 Ti4200 8)
IDE1: Western Digital 40Gb 5400rpm (win xp pr) as master & Maxtor 80Gb 7200rpm as slave
IDE2: Liteon 52x24x52 CD-RW ) as master & Samsung 12x DVD as slave.
Soundblaster 5.1 Live PCI
350w Power Supply
MSI D-Bracket 2 & S-Breackets Fitted Also.
I have Three Questions.
>My CPU has a FSB of 200, but the bios (version that came with board) shows it as 100 FSB. See here for athlon bus speeds
Is it ok to increase the bus speed without damaging the processor.
>The two brackets that i have fitted (s and d brackets) do not work. Why?
>What are the optimal and settings for my ram (PC2700 512MB DDR) and GFX Card (MSI GF4 TI4200).
>Oh yeah, my CPU is now operating at a higher temp than before (using old K7VZA ECS Mobo) @ 50-55. Is this normal??
Sorry for the n00b questions, it's just that this is the first time iv ever taken my PC to pieces and re-configured it myself :P
Thanks in advance. -RjA

I can help a little 1000MHZ AMD chip=200FSB XP CPUs=266FSB this is CPU speed . AMD 1000MHZ CPU needs to run @100FSB where a XP CPU can run @133FSB This is MEMORY speed . Trying to crank that poor old chip up to anything other than 100 will do you NO good. You need to buy a bigger cpu of the XP kind. A lot of the older XPs can be had for a low price. 50c isn't not super hot. My KT4 runs in the 40s. You might want to think about a bigger cpu cooler to bring the temps down a bit. Most of your settings should be left at system default, since you only have a 1000MHZ CPU. When you go up to an XP then you can make a few changes. Regards BIGDADDY51 :D :D

KT4 Ultra FISR Upgrade

I have the KT4 Ultra-FISR with the Via KT400 chipset. I just read on Via's site that the KT400a is available and it is a pin to pin replacement to the 400. My question is, is there a way that MSI can provide the chipset upgrade (cost is not an issue) or will the upgrade of existing boards be available? Some of the benchmarks for the 400a show a marked improvement over the 400. Thank you in advance for any help.

Hi,
Sorry, but no, that's not possible.

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