KT4-Ultra - RAID

Hi,
Two questions about the controller Promise 20376 of the KT4 Ultra:
- is there a way to set a trip size below 16ko? (I4ve 16, 32, 64, 128 and 256ko).
- is there a way to update the bios of the RAID controller ... if yes .. how ?
Thanks for any help

nah converters can be obtained here in Holland, in fact I have such converter.
It is working properly at least when my RAID is being detected by the kt4 mobo. Then fastrak376 does show up and on next boot it doesn't. Nope it not nothing to do with the converter since hooking one hard drive up to IDE3 results in the same problems.
Messing with the BIOS settings works properly from time to time, since I was able to install WinXP properly. Will continue this weekend putting some more grease on my 2000+ cpu so I can run at full speed (133fsb) and then last but not least finding out what the problem might be concerning the RAID issue, to me it is a buggy BIOS for some reason since this SERIAL ATA RAID option is faded out in the BIOS from time to time .. ?( .. Just like when you put an AGP 8x card in the mobo then the AGP 2x / 4x speed vanishes too, but that is understandable .. blah anyone to help? ..

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Ok I want to set up a raid set for performance and am lacking an understanding of the setup.
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Thx for the response guys.
I understand that I may only use one drive with the IDE3. My board does have 2 serial ata connectors on it as well.
If I only use the IDE3 with one hard drive will the mirror work correctly if I use the same drive (same model specs etc) on the primary ide and use my 60 gig as a secondary drive on the primary as well (i know the 60 will not work with the mirror) All i want is the performance increase for now until the serial drives drop in price and become more readily available.
So my config would be as follows:
1 12 gig drive on pri ide as master
1 60 gig on pri ide as slave
1 12 on ide3 for mirror.
If i use this will i get increased performance as far as load times etc?

KT4 Ultra RAID user:

I use 2-0 RAID. It's run great, fast!!! 8)
I wonder, Is will work, just one hard disk for mirroring on IDE3? ?(
must have one 80G or more than 80G for mirroring? ?(
Thank Dark

what you want to do raid 0 plus 1 requires 4 drives
the lite raid on the board can only use 3 so it will never be possible in this case
msi do not mode any bios,it would break their liscence
they pay promise for what you have only
but in the past people have done them
due to 3 drive limit its not going to happen with your board,the full raid card would have at least 4 sata
connectors for drives,and cost more than your board
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