KT4 Ultra Sound Device?

I cannot find where to turn on the audio device on my brand new KT4 Ultra MS-6590 v4.0 motherboard. I am using BIOS 1.20. The device does not show up in WindowsXP at all. Is there a jumper or BIOS setting? ;(
Thanks

For onboard sound its under Intergrated Peripherals/On Board PCI Controller/Audio Contoller - set it to enable.

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MSI Kt4 Ultra - Sound on Board

Hello, I have a problem with my onBoard sound.
Sry for my english, I am german.
I have a SB Live Volue soundcard and i want to install it, but when i deactivate the onBoard sound i cant't delete the drivers from it.
Pls, help, how can I deactivate the Sound-on-board, and install my other soundcard right ?
Pls, when someone is German here, write in german.
thx.

Yes, I disabled it in "Integrated Peripherals" the "Serial ATA Controller" and the "Audio Controller".
Is there someone more, I have to disable ?!
Or have I to deactivate it on the mainboard, too ?!
And how can I delete the drivers from Windows ?!
This drivers are:
Audiocodecs
Legacy-Audiotreiber
Mediensteuerungsgerät
Vidiocodecs
I have Windows XP and Win2k, because I use Partition Magic and Boot Magic.
MSI KT4-Ultra
Athlon XP 2000+
GeForce4 MX 440
256 DDR Samsung 333Mhz
SB Live 1024
Midi Tower 350 Watt

KT4 Ultra Sound still stuttering for a lot of people... Any Progress?

I've searched the forums, updated, rebuilt, reupdated, replaced, blah, blah, blah.... as have a lot of KT4 Ultra owners... but still the sound stutters like a Dragon 64.
Does anyone know if MSI have even bothered to look at this problem? Has anyone "who's actually experienced the problem" actually got a fix?
I bought the MSI for it's power and it's sound. The powers great, the sound.... I rely on my daughters old Dell Celeron 400 to provide.
Thanks to everyone who've suggested ideas, but shouldn't MSI be addressing this problem? At what stage can I go back to my motherboard supplier and tell them it's crap and ask for a Gigabyte?
Very disappointing MSI. You've got my money, is that all that matters? Not related to Microsoft are we?
Yorkshiretaff2
(previously yorkshiretaff but MSI's password sender doesn't work... hmmm... does anyone else see a pattern here? any emails to [email protected] please.)
msi kt4 ultra (ha ha ha)
2100+
512 ddr
msi mx440
2 x maxtor 40gigs
lg dvd
tdk 48x cdrw
xp pro sp1 plus all patches to date

Thanks for replying Maesus, I really hope you can help.
My first post about this subject was Jan 24th under Yorkshiretaff. I've been scanning the forums and web for a fix since buying the MSI MB & vid card for a fix since december.
My system comprises the following...
>MSI KT4 Ultra
>2100+
>MSI GF4 MX440 64Mg
>512 DDR
>2x Maxtor 40Gb's
>LG DVD
>TDK 48x CDRW
>XP Pro SP1+ (all up to date)
>All MSI drivers up to date (except recommended beta graffics driver not installed)
>Bios 1.3 (fault occurs under all previous releases as well)
>lastest recommended VIAHyperion4in1445v drivers
>USB2 via fix
>Sophos antivirus
>MSI utilities running - PC Alert, MSI Monitor
>C-Media drivers updated to latest via Windows Update (as recommended)
All patches have been applied sequentially with full testing between each application. Bear in mind I run and support a 300 PC/23 server call centre on my own for my job.
I think thats about it for specs. The PC was put together to mainly be used as an office PC with a bit of power for processing avi's and playing MP3's decently and to support a digital camera. Apart from the sound the KT4 has performed really well. I get avi's locking the PC up, but I can trace this again to the sound problem. I have no other software or hardware issues at all. The fault occurs with just a base XP build on.
In previous posts about the sound stutter people have mentioned various bios settings which, after updating the bios 1.3 last night I'm going to start trying all over again (1.2 testing finished). Could you recommend a set of BIOS settings page by page that I could start with? I always start with the default "safe" and start working my way up. But as the fault occurs under the "safe" setting something else might be an issue.
The sound stutter can occur when the PC is almost at rest just playing MP3's. I've stopped all activity on the PC (antivirus, MSI stuff, zonealarm, fuji camera link, palm link) and the sound still stutters. I've seen recommendations for PCI Latency, PCI busmatering, etc but am unsure of what should be set. It does seem to be a processing issue in that the PC just can't handle it, but with the specs above I don't think it should be an issue.
Regarding my "MSI bashing", I apologise for breaking the forum rules, but it does show the frustration myself and many other MSI KT4 owners are experiencing. Paying for, and building a good machine for Multimedia or gaming use should be an easy thing to do with todays kit. Without good sound a PC is no good for either use.
Thanks again.....
YT

KT4 Ultra No Audio Device...

I have the KT4 Ultra MS 6590 Mobo, and I have never had any problems with the sound until recently...
I took the computer into the shop (cuz it was giving me blue screen system errors when I was trying to reinstall XP), and they got it up and running, but I have no sound!
Every time before this, I could just use the MSI Live Update and it would d/l the CMedia sound drivers for me. But now, there is no option to do so.
So I went and downloaded the drivers manually, but there is no exe included in the d/l, and I can't get it to install using the Add New Hardware feature either.
I am at an impass. I've tried several different drivers, nothing works. It still says I have no audio device installed.
PS - I lost my driver cd that came with the mobo.
I don't understand why all of the sudden I cannot get sound. I've had this mobo for almost a year now (I lost track), and I have NEVER had this problem before.
If anyone could help me out that would be great, I miss my sound oh so much.

possible they have messed with bios and turned off sound or used jumpers to diable sound take alook around the usb headers .
also check ya screw mounts even though all has been fine at work i have seen 7 msi boards with no sound when the metal screw mounts have been miss placed or not removed from under the sound chip area. check the sound chip area look under the board the shop or you might have mounted it wrong and bent pins or damaged the area. also check ya got no serious irq conflicts although they have to be serious.

No optical-out sound on MSI KT4-Ultra!!

Hi, I have recently set up a system based on the MSI KT4-Ultra board. I'm using an Athlon XP 1700+, a Radeon 9000 video card, and I've installed Windows 98.
Although all the drivers and audio applications which MSI provided installed fine, and 2-channel audio from the on-board sound chip works great both for music and for the 3-4 games I've installed so far, I can't seem to get the optical SPDIF port to work! I bought a cable and connected the computer to my Sony MD-player and attempted to copy my CDs onto MD. I go into the MSI control panel and check the box to enable SPDIF-out, removing the speaker cable from the analog line-out just for good measure. When I plug the optical cable into my MD it recognises digital input and prepares for recording. I press record on the MD and play on the computer's CD-player app, but the MD LED shows "no signal". I'm pretty sure both the MD recorder and cable are OK since I've used them to copy CDs from a Kenwood portable CD-player quite recently, so it must be the MB that's giving me problems. Indeed, when I've stopped playback in the CD-player app and went back into the audio control panel, I found that the SPDIF box had been unchecked of its own accord. I've tried this several times, and I've unplugged the S-bracket and reinstalled it all over again just to make sure it was plugged in properly, and I still get the same problem. All audio works fine except optical out! Haven't got a coaxial cable or recorder so I can't check if the coaxial port is equally buggered or if it's just the optical, but I'm getting really annoyed here: this was the one feature I liked best about this board and the only one which isn't working! Any ideas, anyone?

dude, i think i can get u ur signal, but currently i can only get silent recordings, u may have better luck.
on the minidisc, there should be a switch or button that will toggle synchronised recording on and off, turning it off should get u a signal, but it wont be in sync wiv the cd, ie u cant trust it to form track gaps.
hope that helps, done flame me if it dont, if i manage to get substance to my recording, i will send u the info just in case.
take it easy

Kt4 ultra (5.1 sound?)

Hi!
I have a kt4 ultra-bsr, cmi 8738.
Latest drivers from the site (also tried with the ones from http://www.cmedia.com.tw/ and windows update).
Hercules XPS 510 (5.1 speakers).
front left/front right: on the mainboard
surround left/right: on the s-bracket
center/subwoofer: on the s-bracket.
1. When I use the demo program, all speakers work ok.
2. When I play a mp3 in winamp (direct sound), no sound comes from the center speaker.
3. When I play a wma file in winamp (diret sound), sound comes only from the front speakers & the subwoofer.
4. If I have something on the line-in (ie walkman, tv tuner), sound is heared only from the front speakers & subwoofer.
I saw that the subwoofer from this speakers plays the low frequencies even if i use the front speakers connection only. So i presume that in case 2 the sound card outputs the signal only on the front and rear speakers, and in case 3 and 4 only the front speakers.
What I want:
in every case (mp3 / line-in / wma): front left and front right to be 'duplicated' to rear left/ rear right, and maybe front left&right combined into the center speaker. Or something like that.
But I also want true 5.1 when I play games or a DVD (i don't have a DVD player so I didn't tried that yet), so connecting all the jacks to the line-in (with a splitter) it's not a solution.
Thank you for reading this, and please excuse my bad english.

The center speaker will work only with files made for 5.1 sound system, for example DVD movies. You will have to set you DVD software to 5.1 speakers.
For regular files (mp3s), you might need to find a player and/or plugins that will support center speaker, but that is an artificial solution. I know there are plugins for Windows Media Player 9 that will do that.

KT4 Ultra Disable the Onboard Sound?

Hello I just purchased a KT4 Ultra board and need to disable the onboard sound so I can install my Audigy Platnium sound card. I do not see any documented jumpers or provisions in the bios. Could someone explain how to do this, and if your saying it exist in the bios please include the bios header it is under. Thankyou.

JoJoMoJo,
I since you have a KT4 and you posted in the nVidia/AMD/SiS Motherboard Forum, I moved the thread to Via forum for you.
Take Care,
Richard

KT4 Ultra (C-Media Sound System

I recently installed The KT4 Ultra and ran the installation
CD. Everything went perfect. It was immediately up and
running. I have since found that I cannot get a CD to play
out of the rear speakers. I have tried with the S-bracket
and without it with the rear speakers plugged into the Line
In. The software has been set accordingly to 4 speakers in
each case. I know it is not the CD rom or the speakers.
Does anyone have any ideas . ALSO sound comes out of all
4 speakers for mp3's, wav files, midi's that are already
on the hard disk. It is just the playing of cd's.
THANKS

It's upto the software to emulate the rear channels since CD is stereo.
Try winamp 2.8 with the output plugin set to direct sound, works every time.

No Sound with KT4 Ultra - FISR -- HELP!

hey
I got a KT4 Ultra - FISR along with and XP 2400 and other goodies for christmas. I put the machine together and installed 98se, and all of the included drivers the came on the MSI Utilities disk. Everything was working perfectly with it (got 11752 on 3dmark 2001, is that a decent score?) anyways everything was cool except the on-board c-media sound was not working at all. ?( I have 2 speakers w/ sub and i have them plugged into the line out spot in the mobo. I have turned the sound on in my BIOS and messed with all the sound settings in windows and still i get no sound at all. I even unplugged the bracket that came with it for surround because i saw it could possibly cause some problems. I then checked all my connections and still no sound. X( I was woundering if there are any other settings or jumpers that i need to set for my sound to work. Any additional information on how to get my sound to work would be greately appreciated. My system specs are below. Thankz
MSI KT4 Ultra-FISR
AMD XP 2400+
MSI GF4 TI 4400
256 MB GeIL PC2700
120 GB Maxtor ATA/133
ASUS 48/16/48 CD-RW
Pioneer 16x DVD
Hyperion 4in1
Win 98se

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No sound on kt4 ultra

I just upgraded to the kt4 ultra (ms-6590) mother board and I cant get the onboard sound (cmedia 8738mx) to work. Can anyone HELP?

turned it on in bios intergrated periphals itwill be in check manual
fresh install with the drivers?
swapping board without can be trouble

KT4-Ultra-Onboard sound problems

I bought my KT4 Ultra in September and I've heard some talk about being defective. Just to start off by saying that for it may be my problem.... Anyways, I'm having problems with my onboard sound. When I play music, my sound kinda stutters. To best describe it, my sound doesnt skip or anything, but every now and then i hear an extra "drum beat" in my music where there shouldn't be. Please post if you know anyhing about it. Thanks.

Thanks Vatoloco
I know my problem doesnt have anything to do with ripping or the software. All I knowis that the problem is with either my motherboard or something involved indirectly...
Anyways, to help you out, thry using different software and see if that's the problem. If not, try unplugging all your IDE cables and audio cable in ur case and reconnecting for you might have a bad connection. Lastly, check out your cd drive.

Kt4 ultra bios

have a strange paradox regarding disturbing message at boot up.
when i boot my system i recieve a message:
"no drive attached to fast track controller. no bios detected.."
i love msi boards and have used this forum in past very sucessfully with the assistance of BAS.
I donated my old system to a freind in need. It was all of 11 months old and was a very stable system built on a k7t pro 2-ru. It had all the bells and whistles. what a mistake.
my new system is as follows:
kt4 ultra fisr
256 mb ddr3200 samsung (as recommended by msi)
m-audio revolution 7.1
ati all in one wonder radeon 8500 64mb
2-80gb western digital special edition hard drives
dvd/cd combo lg electronics gcc-4320b
athalon xp 2200
550 watt antec tru-power psu
lian li case with 4 fans (of which only 3 work with the power supply while allowing fan monitoring)
klipsch pro-media 5.1 speakers
winxp pro
how i got there to the afore mentioned msge regarding controller and no bios detected...
I was experiencing a lot of problems with the new set up
such as:
1. system crashes while viewing tv
2. unexplained boot up of system in the middle of the
night (that was freaky and kind of humorous)
3. other system reboots and difficulty of system
shutdown
4. device driver failure messages regarding the ati card
such as "atimmc.exe driver failure"
all system crashes revolved around the ati card and after recoveries many registeries were messed with as expected.
all in all I got by with the system as long as i remained off applications involving the radeon card.
last week I checked into the forum here and noticed issues with this motherboard and radeon cards.
i went to the ati site noticed updated drivers, and at the msi site, updated bios for the kt4 ultra boards.
i did not have a floppy so i backed off flashing the new bios onto the board. I currently have the first version (1.00 or something), the screen flashes so briefly these days.
i decided to reformat the drives and reload xp onto the new system and then retreive the newer drivers for ati card. upon installation while reading my neurophysiology book upon boot up is when xp informed me that no bios was detected. xp asked me if i wanted to continue. so i did continue with sucessfull installation of xp.
being quite surprised that i could still get system on board, i am wondering how to get the bios to be detected and if I should try and flash new bios, if this will correct this. I am also with fresh install of xp having no difficulties shutting down system now and i am no longer having mystery unassisted boots of the system.
all in all, before the bios problem i was just wondering about the stability of the board with the ati radeon card.
Now I am very concerned with the message, "no driver attached to fast track controller... no bois detected"
any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
Boy, do i miss that k7t board...
thank you,
Eric

Do NOT worry about the fasttrack controller message!!
It just says you don't have any serial-ATA disk attached. This is how to get rid of the message:
In BIOS:
=> Integrated Peripherals
=> OnBoard PCI Controller
=> Serial ATA ---> set this to "Disabled"
Can't say I experience any of your other problems, although I had some problems with the sound card the first time I installed.
Seems as if the problems are fewer the more times you install/format the system.....actually experienced that on a couple of MSI-cards. In the end, everything has worked fine for me, so I'm happy with them (except design and layout of the new nForce K7N2G-cards!! ridiculous!)

KT4 Ultra: conflict w/ expansion cards

This is my first post, so please be gentle. I recently built new PC for photo editing and want to keep this old KT4 Ultra computer for general usage right beside. Both are running Windows XP Home SP3.
My KT4 computer had HDD crash and after replacement and fresh istallation of XP I initially had following expansion cards inside:
USB Expansion card (w/ 4 USB ports) on Slot 2 (INT B#)
Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC on Slot 3 (INT D#)
Terratec EWX 24/96 Sound Card on Slot 6 (INT C#)
Everything was OK until I wanted a LAN connection for sharing of files (mostly) and Internet (via cable modem) between these two. Instead of a broadband wired router I opted for a Gigabit Ethernet card installing it on slot 5 (INT B#).
USB Expansion card (w/ 4 USB ports) on Slot 2 (INT B#)
Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC on Slot 3 (INT D#)
D-Link DGE-528T Gigabit Ethernet Adapter on Slot 5 (INT B#)
Terratec EWX 24/96 Sound Card on Slot 6 (INT C#)
Somehow didn't want to have it on slot 1, so close to video card. Unfortunately after this the sound card was dropped by the system, a yellow question mark in Device Manager.
Further I failed to instal my Bluetooth Dongle which I earlier had used succesfully for communication to my mobile phone. Now my Broadcom USB Bluetooth Device is put under Unknown in Device Manager.
I did experience problems with the sound card several years ago in this very same PC. That time I knew little about system and BIOS setting and had to use another PC for audio purposes (digitalizing of tapes and vinyl).
As reference I used the PCI Interrup Request Routing table, found on page 2-32 in KT4's manual. Funny thing is that Sandra XI tells now that my two Ethernet cards having both INT pin A# while by their slots they should be B# and D#. I don't have true understanding what this means though. In BIOS the PNP/PCI Configurations has all slot IRQs on Auto.
Is this conflict easily cured by re-positioning card(s) on other slot(s) or addressing IRQ settings manually, and if so how and in which order? Or should I remove all the cards and install them in certain order...?
I'm quite exhausted as I had some component issues with my new PC and now this KT4 once again rejects my sound card. Maybe I'm better off by installing it on my new PC, but then this failure with Bluetooth dongle, (which I put on the USB port of KT4, not on the USB exp. card.) Oh my, why can't sound card and ethernet card live together!?!
I would appreciate your help very highly.

Hope you get things like you want them!
Eh, made this in 2003, but I'm not sure if it isn't more confusing than anything else:
"The use and sharing of IRQs aren't mentioned in my MSI manual, (due to the APIC function I think), so I had to go to some ASUS manuals. As standards are standards, I believe things can't be to different. If someone has any addings or suggestions please come forward, so I can adjust the table.
*Please note that this is generally speaking and mainly for ASUS boards a few years old!
**Please note that you should not have any sharing with the IDE controller or similar!
***Please note that it is a good thing to have expansion PCI sound cards in slot 3!
****Please note that surprisingly enough it looks like PCI slot 2 would be free for any device, but AGP cards get hot and bigger so it is not a great idea.
IRQ sharing table
PCI 1 shares with PCI slot 5
2 shares with AGP and PCI slot 6, or sometimes with onboard IDE
3 shares not, or sometimes with onboard audio/modem
4 shares with onboard LAN
5 shares PCI slot 1
6 shares with AGP and PCI slot 5
AGP slot shares with PCI slots 5 and 6
USB 1 shares with USB 2, 3 and USB 2.0
2 shares with USB 1, 3 and USB 2.0
3 shares with USB 1, 2 and USB 2.0
USB 2.0 shares with USB 1, 2, and 3
Onboard audio/modemshares not, or sometimes with slot 3
Onboard LAN shares with PCI slot 4
Onboard IDE shares not, or sometimes with PCI slot 2 "
Normally it is best to let Windows or whatever OS you run do the job. Setting IRQ:s yourself is a (too) big assignment.

KT4 Ultra in multi-zone audio system

If you want to see a MSI KT4 Ultra used in a home theater and multi-zone (whole house) sound system, have a look at this page! 8)

Well I got my DAC today and I'm happy to report that everything is going to work the way I hoped. So here is my setup:
1. Main zone - ATV connected to Denon 1909 with HDMI for both audio and video.
2. Zone 2 - ATV connected to DAC using optical audio and DAC connected to Denon using RCA composite.
3. Dolby digital setting on ATV set to "auto"
When I am watching in the main zone I get 2 channel audio when listening to music and Dolby digital with Netflix or iTunes tv shows.
When music is playing, if I switch on zone 2 the audio plays through my outdoor speakers just fine. My Denon display shows a 2 channel audio input.
If I leave zone 2 on and put some multi channel content on the ATV (like Netflix) the outdoor speakers give off a static feedback sound. This is the one glitch in the setup and was expected since the DAC can't process multi channel sound. But since I never plan to use the outside speakers for anything but music it shouldn't be a problem.
So it appears that the auto setting is not purely based on the capabilities of the HDMI device connected to the ATV but actually the programming that is running at the time. Makes sense.
Think I will keep the ATV 3.

KT4 Ultra IRQ problem

Hello Everybody !!
I have small problem... Two months ago i bought my fantastic KT4 Ultra... :D I'm very happy of that.
Everything works fine, but my agp PNY Geforce4 Ti 4200 has the sam irq 16 like my integrated C-media 8738MX sound card.
The question is:
Is it bad or not ??? If it is bad, how can I change the IRQ for my Geforce card???? Becauce it is impossible to change IRQ in Windows XP. I know that there is possibility to change IRQ in BIOS, but I dont know what PCI slot is shared with AGP.
I will be very grateful for any help.
My configuration:
Windows XP SP1
MSI KT4 Ultra-B
C-Media 8738MX integrated sound card
PNY Verto Geforce4 Ti 4200 64MB
2 x 256 MB DDR333
Lite On 48/12/48
Maxtor 40 GB Ata 100

I had problems with TV cards, had the TV@nywhere and a Leadtek TV2000 XP Delux. I eventually got them both working. Win2k and WinXP disable the control ability of PCI interface which stops you from installing new cards and drivers. I fixed it by
1. First remove any unknow devices in "Device Manager".
2. Run regedit (WinXP) or reget32(Win2K).
3. Check to make sure that "full control" for the profile that you are using i.e. Admin is allowed in KEY_LOCAL_MACHINEsystemControlset001enu mPCI.
3 keys need to be changed to "full control".
Controlset001enumPCI,
Controlset002enumPCI,
CurrentControlsetenumPCI.

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