KT4AV killed my PSU?

Hi! I new here. wondering you guys can get me some opinion about that is going on with my desktop.
My mobo killed 4 PSUs with the same model listed below. All of them do NOT have any burn smell.
What I have tried.
- 1st PSU died - got burn smell.
- replaced with 2nd PSU (model listed below) been working fine for pass 6 months 24 hours desktop running. sometimes i shutdown the desktop and let it run again.
- 2nd PSU died - no power etc. NO burn smell. MOBO etc no burn mark or smell.
- replaced 3rd PSU (same model) it died again after 1 hour of installation. Again no burn mark smell etc.
- next day i bought a KOSS AVR Activa A-80. Check for power leakage from the casing with a test pen (test out the pen is working) - NO power leakage. Connected the desktop with replacement PSU now with the AVR. able to power up and run the system with any problem - runnining normal for 24 hours for 4 weeks.
- today, I'm facing the same problem. PSU dead again!
please tell me. Am i using a crappy PSU? I think i ought to buy a better PSU and see how it goes. If it is the same, I'm going to bang my head on the wall
thanks!
My system specs:-
NO Overclocked ETC. Plain default specs running 24 hours.
AMD XP 1600
MSI KT4AV
Kingston 256MB DDR Ram
Geforce 3 Ultra
Nec DVD Writer 4X
Nec DVD drive 16X
Cheapo 100/10MB PCI NIC
Sound Blaster Value.
17 SAMTRON Monitor
SEADA PSU Model: KC-400 ATX
INPUT: 115V/230V AC 60/50Hz
7A/3.5A
Output: 400W MAX

ok extra work for me over my weekends! reseat stuffs from mobo. clean the CPU fan and things suggested by great people here giving me good suggestions.
I going to get a replacement PSU but i doubt it will be stable. I'm in office right now so i'm not be able to get the exact voltage specs from the PSU.
i dont think is a power point or power surge power because the last PSU died was with a AVR connected. Must be bloody PSU!!
But this mobo never had an issue killing the PSU right?
Asenius - nope. I dont have a special condition. just power point (socket)--> AVR --> desktop. well there are no beep sounds. Yup I gotta do that and see.
hexanir - 1 hour PSU died - next day got the same PSU replaced. was tested out working on another computer - it work fine for several months after that and died again.
multimeter is way out of my league For D-bracket USB i need to check whether i got or not. Bad electricity - i have bought an AVR but still same.
Sharp - I'll get you the specs later when i'm at home.

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Quote from: SovietKitsch on 19-June-09, 17:10:50
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OPatch failed with error code 73
[oracle@host01 16619893]$ ps -ef |grep libclntsh.so.11.1
oracle   15943 15446 0 02:11 pts/3    00:00:00 grep libclntsh.so.11.1
[oracle@host01 16619893]$
Why I am getting that error? And how to check wheather lobclntsh.so.11.1 is running and how to kill it?
Thanks in advance.

See the below link
Oracle DBA and RAC DBA Expert: Reason: Cannot apply patch due to fatal error & CheckActiveFilesAndExecutables failed
I hope it resolves your issue.
Regards,
http://www.oracleracexpert.com

KT4AV will not boot with SATA card installed and no SATA drive

I put a Promise brand SATA II card in a KT4AV motherboard. There is an IDE drive and a DVD drive hooked up to the IDE1 port on the motherboard. That IDE drive has Windows XP Pro SP2 loaded on it.
If I have a SATA drive plugged into the card, the machine works fine. If I remove the STAT drive and leave the card in, I cannot boot to Windows. If I remove the card, it works fine. The only time there is a problem is when the SATA card is plugged in and there is no drive on the SATA card.
As one possible solution, I tried to boot to a Windows CD to reload Windows. It will not even allow me to reload from the CD, it says there is a file missing from the CD. If the SATA drive is hooked up, it will work fine on the CD. Also, I tried multiple CDs and they all give the same message. Because it makes a difference whether the SATA drive is connected or not, I do not believe the CD is the problem.
I have tried looking on Promise's web site for a FAQ or an updated BIOS or for other information about this problem and I found nothing. I have e-mailed them and they did not reply yet.
There is no reason to think this is the fault of the motherboard, but I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas about this problem. Because of the symptoms, I believe it also cannot be the CPU, memory, PSU, video card, etc. Sorry if that makes this post off topic.

Quote from: HenryW on 16-March-07, 02:56:44
Have you tried to disable card in Device Manager when you don't use it? What is the model number of the card you are using?
It is a SATA 300 TX2, which means that it has two SATA ports and one IDE port. I have never used the IDE port, only one SATA.
I have never tried to disable it, but I could try, just to see what it did. It sure would be a lot more work to disable and enable it so that isn't a good long term solution. Among other things, it would mean that I would have to boot up in order to remove the SATA drive. Since it won't boot with the drive removed, it will require more planning.
Will post the results once I have tried. Still no reply from Promise :-(

KT4AV Beeping at me on boot-up

I have looked that the troubleshooting guide.
Motherboards making a Siren-sound
If your board is making the sound of a firetruck, BEEP-BOOP-BEEP-BOOP...
Check the folowing:
1. CPU too hot
2. chassis intrusion was enabled in the BIOS
3. PSU is below min/max allowable value
My computer boots up and about 10-15 seconds later it shuts down and beepds at me. Everything inside is new so I'm stumped. Im still kind of new to whole computer building thing but I do know what works with what (Atleast I think I do).
1) CPU can't be hot, it hasnt even had time to heat up
2) Reset BIOS just incase. (Still beeps after 10-15secs)
3) I tryed a 400w PSU and a 300w PSU and both do this same thing.
Any other suggetions other then buy a new mother board.

Check to insure the heatsink is seated correctly, as they will fit backwards, but will not make good contact with the CPU. Make sure the cutout on the bottom of the heatsink is placed over the raised end of the CPU socket.
You would be surprised how fast a CPU heats up without the heatsink properly seated. Powering up a system with no heatsink can kill a CPU in under 5 seconds.

Is my psu power ok to aply 2 gpu card as sli?

hi
i lost 2 pcs in 1 day ..just replace my msi n-vidia 275gtx twin frozn with one msi n-vidia 295 gtx press the start buton and end with pc dead (dead mobo msi, HDisks1 t, cpu amd, and psu 600wthermaltake.. and the gtx295 and many more plus 1mobo gygabit, and intel 8500e, with 620w psu corsair )yes 2 pcs in 1 day .. so i replace the <<old>> stuf with new,,, and i want to bye one more msi n-vidia 275gtx twin frozn 896mb oc and make a sli.
my psu is the
Nexus RX850
Model No.      RX-8500
AC Input    115V/230V 15A/7,5A 50/60Hz
DC Output    +3.3V    +5V +12V1 +12V2 +12V3 +12V4 -12V +5VSB
Max Output Current    24A    30A    20A    20A    20A    20A    0.8A    3A
Max Combined Power    170W    760W    6W    15W
Total Power    829W
and the gpu the MSI GeForce N275GTX Twin Frozr OC 896MΒ as i say
is ok to buy 2 card or is better and safer to keep the one 275 ?? ty ahh

yap just place 2 gtx275 and test it in gpu-killer game age of conan, i got 20-25 fps more than b4 and 45-70 at max setings with dx10 on my 24i screen at 1920-1080 ress . near 70-90% more fps -run near 4 hours with no prob from psu or anything alse... i test more games and things when i move back to my main home and post back if anything gets wrong
the bad thing is that one gtx295 die and kill my 1st pc ..and the ultra bad luck that the same day we set up one new pc with used parts from my mate other pc and also end in smoke (the fun or cry thing is that nothing exept the pc case was the same all dferent parts even the psu -corsair..) .. HDisks are wasted and the repair cost to get my total loved data back is like buying 10 new disks, ty again mates 4 help

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