KT4V Problems with 133 FSB

I've got a question about this board. The version I have is an OEM board, I have 1 major problem with it I have tried EVERYTHING i have read in the forums about it and nothing works. I can not get the board to run at the 133 FSB i have a AMD Tbird 1.33Ghz chip with the 266 FSB If i set my Bios to 130 FSB i can run at 1300 Mhz fine but when i go to 133FSB it just sits there and loops the Starting XP screen Here are my sys specs
AMD 1.33 Tbird
Thermaltake Valcano 7+ Running on the higest fan speed.
MSI KT4V Mainboard
PNY Geforce 4 Ti4200 8X Agp card
600W Powersupply Robertron I believe
1 60 Gig Maxtor HD
1 60 Gig Samsung HD
1 Aopen 20x CDRW Drive
1 Stick of Kingston PC2100 256 DDR ram
1 Stick of IBM PC2100 256 DDR ram
I have tried it with each stick alone and each stick in different places everytime
I am Running Windows XP Pro SP1 Installed and useing all the latest Drivers for the Vid, Built in Lan and Audio. Also the Latest Bios update 1.7 nothing seems to make this board run at 133FSB Any help would be greatly thanked.

OK now I know its not my Heatsink or anything else on my system I know it is this board. I removed Everything execpt 1 hard drive put a old 4 meg PCI video card in and REmounted my HS and CPU and it took me 5 reboots just to get the board to post, after that i set it to the proper 133 FSB and got a NTDRL error changed it back to 100 FSB and it frooze 3 times before finally working After this experence I will Diffently NEVER buy a MSI board this board has been nothing but a headache from the start I will stick by my old faithful ABIT from this day foward..... Anyone wanna buy a slightly used MSI KT4V ?? :D

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