KT6 FISR -XP2500 Barton Overclock Settings !
I would like to know what FSB/Multiplier settings people are using with their KT6 FISR (or FIS2R) M/B and the XP2500 Barton CPU. I have had my CPU up to 2004MHz only (11 x 167) without any problems but, rather than proceed any further and "cook" my CPU, I would like information from people that are running higher settings with good stability and acceptable CPU temps.
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Originally posted by technojunkie
thenext1 :- So you're saying that 2500XP+ Barton's are OK (with games) at 200x11 providing that you don't try and push them too far !
Yes I'm saying If you buy a 2500 barton, you can try and overclock it at 200x11, if it isn't stable increase voltage a little bit, to 1.75 or even 1.80 IF YOU HAVE A GOOD COOLER.
The most important is that it must be stable in windows and games;
in super-heavy-stressssss tests such as Prime95 it may fail... it almost doesn't even affect real world applications.
And another point, DON't buy a 2500 barton and leave it at 166x11.
2500 barton are way slower than 2400 tbreds, are more expensive, as I've found (I had one until a few day ago), and you can easily give an athlon 2400 a slight 100mhz boost by just uppering the FSB to, say 140, at no cost...
Consider this, my ex 2400 tbred @ 2100mhz (140x15), in SuperPI test it totalled 58 seconds, In stead the 2500 barton scored 1.00 minute.
Not to mention the tbred is cooler...
Definitively barton is not that "discover".
It's only a mediocre core in spec use...
The best were tbreds.
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* MSI KT4VL BIOS SETTINGS w/AMD XP 2500+ w/ Barton *
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Standard CMOS Features
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Time Set Correctly Upon first POST and after each BIOS Flash / CMOS Reset
Date Set Correctly Upon first POST and after each BIOS Flash / CMOS Reset
Primary IDE Master
Type AUTO
32Bit transfer Mode ON
Primary IDE Slave
Type AUTO
32 Bit Transfer Mode ON
Secondary IDE MasterType AUTO
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Secondary IDE Slave
Type AUTO
32 Bit Transfer Mode ON
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Floppy Drive B Not Installed
Boot Sector Virus Protection Disabled
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Advanced BIOS Features
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Quick Boot Enabled
Full Screen Logo Show Disabled
Boot Sequence
1st Boot Device Floppy
2nd Boot Device CDROM/DVD whatever you use
3rd Boot Device IDE 0
Try Other Boot Devices No
S.M.A.R.T. for Hard Disks Enabled
BootUp Num-Lock On
Floppy Drive Swap Disabled
Floppy Drive Seek Disabled
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C000,32k Shadow Disabled
APIC Function Enabled
MPS Table Version 1.4
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DRAM Timing Control
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Row Precharge Time 2T
RAS Pulse Width 5T
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SDRAM 1T Command Enabled
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AGP timing Control
AGP Mode 4X
AGP Fast Write Disabled
AGP Aperture Size 256MB
AGP Master 1 W/S Write Enabled
AGP Master 1 W/S Read Enabled
AGP Read Synchronization Enabled
PCI Delay Transaction Enabled
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Power Management Features
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IPCA Function Yes
ACPI Standby State S1/POS
Call VGA at S3 Resuming Disabled
USB Wakeup From S3 Enabled
Power Management/APM Enabled
Power/Sleep LED Single LED
Suspend Time Out (Minute) Disabled
Display Activity Ignore
CPU Critical temperature 70 degrees C CPU HALT Command Detection Disabled
Power Button Function On/Off
After AC Power Loss Power Off
Set WakeUp Events
Wake Up on Ring Disabled
Wake Up on PME Disabled
Resume On KBC Disabled
Wake Up Key Any Key
Wake Up Password N/A
Resume on PS/2 Mouse Disabled
Resume By Alarm Disabled
Alarm Date 15
Alarm Hour 12
Alarm Minute 30
Alarm Second 30
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PnP/PCI Configurations
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Plug and Play Aware O/S Yes
Clear NVRAM No (Set One time only to Yes After Installing New Hardware or Moving PCI Cards Around)
PCI Latency Timer 64 (Set Higher for better PCI performance reduce if having sound or LAN problems)
PCI IDE BusMaster Enabled
Primary Graphics Adapter AGP for AGP card - PCI for PCI video card)
PCI Slot 1 IRQ Auto
PCI Slot 2/5 IRQ Auto
PCI Slot 3/6 IRQ Auto
PCI Slot 4 IRQ Auto
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Integrated Peripherals
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Floppy Disk Controller Auto
Serial Port 1 Disabled
Serial Port 2 Disabled
Serial Port 2 Mode Normal
IR Pin Select IRRX/IRTX
Onboard Parallel Port Auto
Parallel Port Mode ECP (For some Printers you may need to set as Bi-Dir or EPP)
EPP version N/A
Parallel Port IRQ Auto
Parallel Port DMA Auto
Onboard Midi Port Disabled
Onchip IDE Controller Both
Onboard LAN Enabled (Disabled if using PCI LAN card)
Onboard LAN PME Enabled (Disabled if using PCI LAN card)
AC’97 Audio Enabled (unless using PCI sound card)
MC’97 Modem Disabled
USB Controller All 6 USB Ports
USB Legacy Support Disabled (some people with legacy USB devices may need to enable)
Port 64/60 Emulation Enabled
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PC Health Status
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Chassis Intrusion Disabled
CPU Fan Detect Enabled (set to disabled BEFORE shutting down to install any PSU powered CPU fan)
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Frequency/Voltage Control
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Spread Spectrum Disabled (return to default setting to troubleshoot EMI problems)
CPU FSB Clock 166
CPU Ratio Auto
CPU Vcore (V) Auto
DDR Voltage (V) Auto (set to 1.6 if you have RAM instability)
Termination Voltage Auto
AGP Voltage (V) Auto -
Xp2100+ vs xp2500 barton for oc
i plan on overclocking and the barton is only $50CDN more. which would be the better purchase? both unlock with the wire trick so that's not an issue. has anyone had great success in overclocking the barton? i know people have had their 2100s at 2.3GHz with ease but what would a barton get me? cooling would be better on the barton cause of the bigger core but with my volcano 9 i'm not too worried either way.
quick answers would be appreciated.Cujo, I'm on an XP2100+ and it rox for o/c! w/o changing the voltage settings or the Factor Multiplyer settings I can set the FSB up to 166 and it runs just as a 2700+ would run, completly stable. I have gone as high as 2.3 ghz, fairly stable and according to sisoft sandra benchmarking utility, I slightly out perform the 3000+. Here is a guide that may help you when picking out a thurobredB based chip: http://lowyat.isentral.com/guides/athlonxp/ Hope it helps!
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2. Second problem is a bit more serious.
I'm having problems setting my proc to work with 100% stability on 200MHz FSB speed.
This is what's going on:
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- Sometimes (on rare occasions) blues screen appears when I'm in windows or some program. Last time when it appeared it said something about "memory managment". I tried to lower memory settings but nothing seemed to be better.
- If I try to freshly install windows on 200 MHz FSB in 98% of the cases installation will be abrupted (blue screen or resets) or it won't even start to install.
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I've been checking the temperature on regular basis when I'm playing. It is always low.
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Originally posted by ellswt
On the newer 2500+'s the multiplier is locked, this could be your problem
Nope, because I am changing multiplyers without probs. The only multiplyer that doesn't work is 13x.
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...loosen up your memory timings to add stability, and give it a try again at the 200 mhz fsb without changing the multiplier.
I drove the memory according to the Corsair's specs, and I drove it on lower settings also. No change.
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also you may wish to go up to 2.7 volts for your ram, and 1.7 volts on your processor to add stability, remember sometimes you have to go up gradually a step or two at a time and keep it there for a day or two before you reach your top OC.
I might try upping ram voltage but that doesn't sound good, because it IS DDR 400 memory (an excellent one too !).
It's not like I'm trying to drive it over 200MHz. 200MHz is this memory's normal frequency.
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Already have newest drivers.
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