KT6V and AGP mode problem

Hi,
I have MSI KT6V motherboard and I'm using latest bios version(2.0) with it. Problem is that I have MSI Radeon X1950 pro AGP card that won't work AGP 8X mode(it's same thing with 3 different other motherboards that I have used, with different chipsets etc. On AGP 4X mode it works like a charm).
With this motherboard I can't change AGP mode. It's always on AUTO(option is "grayed out" and cannot be changed). So is there anything that I can do? From my earlier experiences I know that graphic card works but only on AGP 4X mode.

Quote from: Fredrik on 08-April-09, 02:58:33
What PSU have you got?
What is the GPU temp.?
But in fact I think the problem is with driver. Like been suggested Fast Write off.
Right now I using Antec True 480P PSU. Other component are:
-MSI KT6V
-AMD Sempron 3000+ with Thermaltake Extreme Volcano 12(default clocks, temp about 40°C under load)
-2XCORSAIR DDR 512MB 400MHZ CL2.5
-Leadtek 6600GT 128Mb
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-SB Live!
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Everything works just fine. When I change video card to MSI X1950 Pro everything seems to be working until I try to launch any 3D application(game, 3DMark etc.) the screen goes black(no error message, no reboot). I have used many drivers, like Ati 8.7 or Omega. I have tested them and they work with that card in other configurations.
"Black screen" could be related to insufficient PSU but believe me, it's not the case with this one. That video card have always behaved like that with every motherboad that I have tried(ASRock 775Dual-VSTA/939Dual-SATA2 and couple of others) regardless what other components there are(PSU, memory etc.). Problem occurs only when using AGP 8X mode. If AGP is lowered to 4X problem disappears.
That's why I'm so obsessed with this AGP mode issue. I have tried clear CMOS but AGP mode stays greyed out(actually is "blued out") and cannot be changed. Other AGP options, like Fast Write have always been OFF.
If I remember correctly, with some older bios and Radeon 9000 Pro, I had an option to change AGP mode. So maybe one possibility is to flash it back to older bios.

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