KT6V LSR (MS 7021) SATA controller card second opinion, please

I want to thank Fredrik Asenius for his reply to my previous post.
However, due to the fact that the purchase of a SATA controller card and two SATA2 hard disks will be handled, of necessity, at a distance of 800 kilometers (involving courier expenses), the technician of the store has requested that I ask for a second opinion from another expert in the forum. An error, therefore, could be very costly. (No offense of any kind intended to Fredrik Asenius)
My motherboard is the MSI KT6V LSR (MS 7021) Via KT600 Northbridge and Via 8237 Southbridge chipsets.
Both SATA connections are currently taken up by two SATA hard drives (no striping, nor mirroring in use). The rest of the installation consists of IDE CDRW and DVDRW drives, as well as an MSI Nvidia NX6200AX (256 RAM) AGP video card and a Soundblaster Live Value PCI audio card. The other four PCI slots are not occupied. The system also has 1.5 gigabytes of RAM and a 520-watt PSU. I am running Windows XP SP2 Professional.
My questions are the following:
(1) Since the two SATA connectors on my motherboard are occupied, if I wish to add another SATA device I will have to install a SATA controller card. Does the SATA controller card have to be SATA 1 or can I also use a SATA 2 controller card?
IMPORTANTLY, the technician questions whether the motherboard will accept a controller card adding more SATA devices. He says that you cannot add any more SATA devices to this motherboard. Is he correct?
(2) If it is possible to add more SATA devices using a controller card, since the chipset on the motherboard is Via the SATA controller software is also from Via. Does the SATA controller card also have to be one that uses the Via SATA RAID software? (In other words, are there compatibility issues? Can all this all work together?)
Once again, thanks for the help.

Quote from: bjmcm on 14-December-06, 04:40:05
(1) Since the two SATA connectors on my motherboard are occupied, if I wish to add another SATA device I will have to install a SATA controller card. Does the SATA controller card have to be SATA 1 or can I also use a SATA 2 controller card?
IMPORTANTLY, the technician questions whether the motherboard will accept a controller card adding more SATA devices. He says that you cannot add any more SATA devices to this motherboard. Is he correct?
(2) If it is possible to add more SATA devices using a controller card, since the chipset on the motherboard is Via the SATA controller software is also from Via. Does the SATA controller card also have to be one that uses the Via SATA RAID software? (In other words, are there compatibility issues? Can all this all work together?)
Once again, thanks for the help.
I have had a fair amount of experience with this kind of issue.
1. No, the add in card does not need to be SATA I, it can be SATA II. I recommend a SATA II card and SATA II drives. Putting SATA II drives on a SATA I controller can fail to work.
2. Is he wrong? Essentially, yes he is wrong. It depends on how literally you take his words. You can NOT add more SATA drives to the motherboard. You CAN add an add-in SATA card and then put the additional SATA drives on that new add-in card. The difference in wording the answer is critical.
You ask about the Via chipset on the motherboard and also on the add-in card. Actually, it is probably LESS likely that the add-in card will work if the chipsets are the same. The issue is the computer being able to differentiate between the two controllers. I had this very problem with a machine.
That computer had two add-in cards. Each was the same brand. The computer could not differentiate between the two cards and gave a hardware error. I replaced one of the cards with another brand and it works fine. The manufacturer suggested trying the cards in different PCI slots. I did not try that, I just got a new card because it was easier for me.
The add-in card does NOT need to support RAID, that is optional. If you do not want to use RAID, the card does not have to support it. If you do want to use RAID, obviously the card does need to support it. RAID is part hardware and part software so if the card supports it and you do not to set it up as RAID, that is fine.
One caution...If the add-in card has an external port that you want to use, be aware that there is something called e-SATA that might use an incompatable type of port connecter. I had a card with that connecter and I found that the cables are extremely expensive and also hard to find. Most external SATA connectors are the SATA I style that you are used to though.

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