Label Styles: Section-relative Figure Numbering

Is it possible? All I see is generic numbering and chapter-relative when I Edit Label Styles. Any workarounds besides manually typing (even that doesn't maintain formatting)?

Add a Figure to your document.
Double click the bolded figure caption.
Choose Edit Label Styles from the Label pop-up in the Layout section of teh Widget Inspector
Open the Label Format pop-up.
The only options are standard (manual) Figure numbering, and chapter-relative numbering. What I'm trying to do potentially is start each section with the number one. So if I had five sections...
Section one would have Figure 1.1, Section 2 Figure 2.1 and so on. Otherwise I'm going to end up with some chapters that have figures numbered into the high double or low triple digits.

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Table and Figure numbering

Is it possible in a single file document to have section related numbering for Tag=bles and FIgures?
I need to number a document with label such as the following:
Table x.y where x is related to the Header1 tag and x is sequential to the figures or tables within that section.
The section numbering function appears to only work for multifile books

Darn Framemaker and its use of phantom numbering placeholders.
But seriously thanks - worked line a champ
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Autoatic Figure Numbering

Hello,
We are using InDesign CS3 for a large document. We have heading styles 1-5 defined in in the paragraph styles, they are done as a list called "Headings" so that you get
A. Heading 1
A.1 Heading 2
A.1.1 Heading 3
A.1.1.1 Heading 4
A.1.1.1.1 Heading 5
We are trying to have our figure numbering done automatically and we have a figure style defined similar to the above. It is a list that relies on Headings list. The figure is set to level 6 in the list
We want the figure numbers to follow the Heading 2 part so that the figure numbers would look like
Figure A.1-2 where the "-2" designates it as the second figure in the A.1 section.
The problem is that 90% of the time it works, but it seems that sometimes, if you are in an H3,4,5 section, then the figure number starts back over at 1 instead of continuing. If we adjust the level from 6 to a lower number, then the headings start to skip numbers that the figures have.

Ok, let me clear up my original message...
H1-H5 are all in the same list (Section Headings) and are Levels 1-5 respectively. We want the figure numbers to build off of H2 (We always have at least 2 levels)
I have two more levels than the H1-H5, they are Figure Number and Table Number. I have them based off of the "Section Headings" list. I have tried them both at Level 6 or having one at level 6 and one at level 7.
I guess my question for pixelstuff is "how did you assign them to a different list?" Obviously 1. Heading is the top of a list, but how can you have two different lists dependent upon it, that puts it in two lists, correct?

Table/figure numbering

Hello all,
I'm in the process of updating a document that we publish annually at my workplace using CS4. I have figured out how to use paragraph styles so that tables and figures update themselves automatically, and also how to create a crossreference within the text that does the same. However, I am stuck on a few points:
Our figure numbering can go: Figure 1, Figure 2, Figure 3-1, Figure 3-2, Figure 4, etc. Or Table 1, Table 2a, Table 2b, Table 3... Is there a conditional that can be inserted? Can I create a style so that it does # - # when necessary, and just the number alone when appropriate? I have a feeling that I have to pick one format or the other...
Our figure numbering starts at Figure 1, and after about 10 figures, the tables start at Table 1. I cannot figure out how to get the figures and tables to number themselves separately. My only choices were to have all tables labeled '1', or start where the figures left off (so the first one is labeled '11'). In addition, tables that span multiple pages have different table numbers (probably because they were created as separate tables, so I have to figure out how to join them).
Thank you for any help.

Darn Framemaker and its use of phantom numbering placeholders.
But seriously thanks - worked line a champ
Bob Geib
Design & Test Engineer
Microwave Filter Components
Aeroflex Microelectronic Solutions
350 Kennedy Drive
Hauppauge, NY 11788
Direct: 631-404-3669
Cell: 526-523-1265
Email: [email protected]

Figure numbering AND paragraph numbering in the same document

Hi everyone,
I have a document with both figure numbering and paragraph numbering. So let say I am in section 4, then the first paragraph would be "4.1. Introduction" and the first picture would be "Figure 4.1: Cool pics".
I created two different lists, one for the figure and another one for the text so that figure numbers and paragraph number don't conflict. However I cannot add the section number in the figure numbering since it's on the other list... I tried to have the figure numbering and paragraph numbering in the same list, but then the numbers conflict (e.g it gives 4.1 Introduction and Figure 4.2: Cool pics).
Can anyone help me, doing what I want (which is "4.1. Introduction" and "Figure 4.1: Cool pics")? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
ps: I am using Indesign CS5.5 on a pc

Thanks for your answer Jump_Over, but my project is already divided into chapters (themselves divided in sections) in a book.
I found a way around by having the figure numbering in the same list as the paragraph numbering, the twist : while I use level 1 to 4 in paragraph numbering, I use level 5 for figure numbering with a numbering definition like ^1.^#, so no more conflict between numbers.
It's working fine so far...

Best practice - updating figure numbers in a file, possibly to sub-sub-chapters

Hi,
I'm a newbie trying to unlearn my InDesign mindset to work in FrameMaker. What is best practice for producing figure numbers to accompany diagrams throughout a document? A quick CTRL+F in the Framemaker 12 Help book doesn't seem to point me in a particular direction. Do diagrams need to be inserted into a table, where there is a cell for the image and a cell for the figure details in another? I've read that I should use a letter and colon in the tag to keep it separate from other things that update, e.g. F: (then figure number descriptor). Is there anything else to be aware of, such as when resetting counts for chapters etc?
Some details:
Framemaker12.
There are currently 116 chapters (aviation subjects) to make.
Each of these chapters will be its own book in pdf form, some of these chapters run to over 1000 pages.
Figure number ideally takes the form: "Figure (a number from one of the 1-116 chapters used) - figure number" e.g. "Figure 34 - 6." would be the the 6th image in the book 'chapter 34'.
The figure number has to cross reference to explaining text, possibly a few pages away.
These figures are required to update as content is added or removed.
The (aviation) chapter is an individual book.
H1 is the equivalent of the sub-chapter.
H2 is the equivalent of the sub-sub-chapter.
H3 is used in the body copy styling, but is not a required detail of the figure number.
I'm thinking of making sub-chapters in to individual files. These will be more manageable on their own. They will then be combined in the correct order to form the book for one of these (1 of 116) subject chapters.
Am I on the right track?
Many thanks.
Gary

Hi,
Many thanks for the link you provided. I have implemented your recommendation into my file. I have also read somewhere about sizing anchored frames to an imported graphic using 'esc' + 'm' + 'p'.
What confuses me, coming from InDesign is being able to import these graphics at the size they were made ( WxH in mm at 300ppi) and keeping them anchored to a point in the text flow.
I currently have 1 and 2 column master pages built. When I bring in a graphic my process is:
insert a single cell table on the next space after current text > drop the title below the cell > give the title a 'figure' format. When I import a graphic it either tries to fit it in the current 2 column layout with only part of it showing in a box which is half the width of a single column!
A current example: page 1 (2 column page) the text flows for 1.5 columns. At the end of the text I inserted a single cell table, then imported and image into the cell.
Page 2 (2 column page) has the last line of page 1's text in the top left column.
Page 3 (2 page column) has the last 3 words of page 1 in its top left column. The right column has the table in it with part of the image showing. The image has also bee distorted, like it's trying to fit. These columns are 14 cm wide, the cell is 2 cm wide at this point. I have tried to give cells for images 'wider' attributes using the object style designer but with no luck.
Ideally I'm trying to make 2 versions. 1) an anchored frame that fits in a 1 column width on a 2 column width page. 2) An anchored frame that fits the full width of my landscape pages (minus some border dimension), this full width frame should be created on a new proceeding page. I'd like to be able drop in images to suit these different frames with as much automation as possible.
I notice many tutorials tell you how to do a given area of the program, but I haven't been able to find one that discusses workflow order. Do you import all text first, then add empty graphic boxes and/or tables throughout and then import images? I'm importing text from Word, but the images are separate, having been vectored or cleaned up in Photoshop - they won't be imported from the same word file.
many thanks

Inline Figure Numbering: Best Practice

Hi all,
I'm seeking input into what the best practice is for numbering images/figures that are placed inline in a document. I want these figures to have consecutive numbers and to move with the text as the text is edited.
The crucial part is that I want to do this in a way that I can put a new figure into the document, and all the following figures will be renumbered automatically.
I can do this if I use a different "Figures" master page that is applied to pages that contain ONLY figures and no text, but I can't seem to figure out the best way to do it inline throughout the document.
If I anchor objects inline, in the order that I want them to appear, the numbering works just fine, but as soon as I insert and anchor a new figure in the middle with automatic figure numbering, the newest anchored image becomes "Figure 1" and renumbers the entirety of the document.
Thanks!

As long as I have all my figures I want to use, and I insert and anchor those figures in the text in the order that I want them to be in, it works. I am using a paragraph style for figure numbers.
The issue is that as soon as an update to the manual occurrs (a common occurrence in this manual) and I need to add a new figure (with a new figure number) halfway through the document, it numbers the new figure as Figure 1, and completely screws up the number formatting the rest of the way through.
I'm trying to set it up right the first time, so it works correctly for years to come.

Why does consecutive figure numbering break when using anchored and in-lin objects

I have an ID CC2014 document that contains graphics with figure numbers associated (using a defined paragraph style - numbered list - continue from previous) and when I place these into the flow of the document with a wrap associated to them they maintain the consecutive numbering that was set up in the figure style sheet. However when a table or graphic is placed in-line with the text (anchored graphic box or inserted table) the consecutive figure numbering doesn't continue, it restarts as #1. The next anchored or inserted item then sees this figure number and follows as if the list was restarted. What is up?
I have found that if all items are used as wrap graphics or separate text/table boxes the figure numbering functions as it should.
Is this a glitch?

I had that happen a month or so ago. What I discovered was there was another numbered list setting in the anchored frames. That's what was restarting the numbers. No glitch. User error.
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So pardon the brevi

(none) style gets applied to numbered list & font size not matching text in my style sheet

RoboHelp 9 (9.0.2.271)
Something is wrong with my style sheet, and it only started happening after I created Master Page for the first time. This happens whether or not the new Master Page is applied to a topic: Every time I type any text in a topic, then click the Numbered List icon in the toolbar, the style goes from Normal to (none), and the font changes from my style sheet's Normal 10pt to 8pt, for the number as well as the text.
I don't see how the new Master Page has anything to do with it because it's not applied to this particular topic. I had created a Master Page in RoboHelp HTML and applied my style sheet, then my topics to it. I have a footer in the Master Page and applied 8pt font using inline formatting (not the style sheet).
I created a new project to see what would happen.
When I apply my style sheet, then apply the numbered list to text, the text font is correct (10pt), but the number font is wrong (8pt).
But when I apply the default style sheet to the topic, the number font and text font match.
How can I get the number and text fonts to match in my style sheet?
I found a workaround by applying inline formatting to the next (10pt) after selecting the text and clicking the numbered list icon. Below is the html code. The numbered steps in red are the ones that are not correct (8 pt). The code with the correct formatting (after I applied inline formatting) is in blue.
<body>
<h1>My Overview</h1>
<p>example</p>
<ol type="1">
<li>first step</li>
<li>second step</li>
</ol>
<ol type="1">
<li style="font-size: 10pt;">Fixed by applying inline formatting to
10pt after selecting the numbered list icon</li>
<li style="font-size: 10pt;">next step</li>
</ol>
<p> </p>
<?rh-placeholder type="footer" ?>
</body>
Thanks.
Gina
Message was edited by: ginafromtampa

Amebr,
That was helpful. I'm looking at a topic now, and both the Apply Style list on the Formatting toolbar show (none) when I click a numbered list that I created using the Created a Numbered List or Create a Bulleted List on the toolbar.
This is the html code for the correct font (10pt):
<ol>
<li class="p">this is the (none) style when I use the numbering button
on the toolbar (which is inline formatting)</li>
<li class="p">this is the (none) style when I use the numbering button
on the toolbar (which is inline formatting)</li>
<li class="p">this is the (none) style when I use the numbering button
on the toolbar (which is inline formatting)</li>
</ol>
Both styles list show the correct custom styles I created for numbered lists, though. Below is the code (correct font):
<ol>
<li class="p-ProcedureSteps"><p class="ProcedureSteps">this is from
my custom numbered style and looks correct</p></li>
</ol>
What's strange is, if I create a list and highlight it, then click the Apply Numbered List button in the toolbar, the numbers and text font size changes to 8 point and my Normal font is 10 pt, and both style lists show (none). That's what I wanted to figure out in my original post. I opened up the stylesheet and I don't see where that's applied. In Flare, you can easily see in a table how the styles are formatted, down to each class.
This is the code for the incorrect font (8pt):
<ol type="1">
<li>why is this 8pt?</li>
<li>why is this 8pt?</li>
<li>why is this 8pt?</li>
</ol>
Below is a screenshot.
Maybe someone can figure this out. Thanks!
Gina

Creating, Positioning, and Referencing Figure Numbering (e.g. Figure 1.1, Figure 1.2, etc)

Hello-
I am new to Framemaker. I am currently learning/working with Framemaker 10 to create a user manual for my company's product and having some difficulty with the captioning of images in the text.
I intend to number each figure in the manual according to the chapter and figure number. For example, the first figure in Chapter 1 would be labeled as Figure 1.1, etc. For Figure 1.1, I placed the image itself inside an anchored frame within the body text frame with the label centered in the text frame one line below the graphic as such:
I set the "Figure 1.1" label by creating a paragraph tag called "Figure". It is formatted as such:
Question:
How can I insert references in the body text which will be updated whenever a new figure is inserted into the document in the same way the title directly under the graphic itself is updated?
For example, I might have a sentence in the body which says "Product X comes in the color shown in Figure 1.1". How can I make sure that if a new image is inserted into the manual ahead of Figure 1.1 that the Figure 1.1 currently there will have its displayed title automatically changed to "Figure 1.2" and the example sentence above will automatically be changed to "Product X comes in the color shown in Figure 1.2" within the text body?
Thanks for the help-
Michael

When you make the cross-reference to the Figure title paragraph that contains the figure numbering, use the <$paranum> building block in the cross-ref format to get the figure numbers. This will automatically update as figures are added or removed before the target cross-ref.

Inline figure and fixed-location figure numbering

I would like to move some of the anchored figures in a story to captioned
frames, so that text will flow around them. I'm encountering two problems in doing this:
1. Figures in the fixed graphics are numbered separately from figures in the main story--their numbering starts at the end of the numbers in the main story.
2. Footnotes in the fixed figures, go to the bottom of the figure frame instead the bottom of the page.
Have I missed something? Or do I have to do a bunch of manual numbering?

randolph549 wrote:
I would like to move some of the anchored figures in a story to captioned
frames, so that text will flow around them. I'm encountering two problems in doing this:
1. Figures in the fixed graphics are numbered separately from figures in the main story--their numbering starts at the end of the numbers in the main story.
2. Footnotes in the fixed figures, go to the bottom of the figure frame instead the bottom of the page.
Have I missed something? Or do I have to do a bunch of manual numbering?
1. The numbered list that affects your caption paragraph style has the option Continue Numbers Across Stories ON. This causes the paragraphs numbered with the style that uses a numbered list to number sequentially in a given story, then across other stories on the page. A stand-alone frame that contains a caption that uses the style continues the numbering after the last number in the preceding story.
You can fix this by using anchored frames in the main text (story) for all your graphics container frames. You can adjust the text flow around the anchored frames with Text Wrap.
2. Footnotes always go to the bottom of the frame their text is in.
Incorporating all the graphics in anchored frames will collect all the footnote texts at the bottom of the single frame that contains them all.
Read about inline anchored frames, custom anchored frames, numbered lists, and footnotes in Help.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Figure Numbering with Inline Figures

Hi all,
I have a document that I'm struggling with as a lack of foresignt on my part. I have both special figure pages as well as inline figures.
The figure pages are numbered, and now I want to add figure numbers to the inline figures. When I generate a static caption, apply a figure number paragraph style, and edit the static text to be a description of the figure, it works, and the numbering is correct.
If, however, I then attempt to anchor either the caption by itself or the figure+caption group in the text, the item becomes Figure 1 and renumbers the rest of the document.
All I want to do is add a figure number that's grouped with the figure so it moves with the text.

Figure numbering works by the order they are within a single frame.
Then it works by sorting out which frames were created first.
If you're grouping a figured text frame with another item then it becomes stuck to that order of creation, thus removing your automatic numbering and renumbering everything.

Why does figure numbering re-start in each of my chapters?

For some reason, figure numbering just stopped spanning chapters in my book.
That is, the first figure in each chapter is labeled Figure 1. All chapters use same
paragraph definitions for "Figure Caption," and that paragraph definition includes
autonumbering. And when I generate an LOF file for the book, FM has no trouble
finding them.
This is a recent development because all the figures in the book used to be
numbered correctly. I just can't figure out what changed.
My figures are built this way: start with an anchored frame, Import>File , then
below the imported graphic frane itself, I insert a text frame and put the figure
caption in it.
I have never fiddled with any text flows in the book -- I just use whatever
defaultes FM gave me
As I said, this scheme used to work. Is there any way to explicitly
tell FM to use continuous numbering?
Cheers,
JP

Error,
I still can't get figure numbers to continue but I did determine the following behavior.
If I set numbering of a chapter via the book file to this:
Chapter: Continue numbering
Page: Continue numbering
Paragraph:Continue numbering
and then update the book file with Edit -> Update References, then heading numbering continues from the previous chapter (for example, chapter 3 starts with heading 3.6) but figure numbering restarts at 1.
If I reset numbering of a chapter via the book file like this:
Chapter: Continue numbering
Page: Continue numbering
Paragraph:Restart numbering
the heading numbers immediately revert to 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 and the figure numbers remain at 1, 2, 3.
This is too frustrating. I can't spend any more time trying to figure this out so I'm going to switch to a <$chapnum>-<n+> format for figure numbers (and probably for tables too). I used to use that format at another company. At least it gives the user a clue as to what chapter the figure is in.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Yours,
Michael F
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Figure numbers

I'm a little puzzled at the functionality of figure numbers.
At present I am working on a sample chapter for a major textbook publisher to show how products of IBA can compare to 'dead tree & ink' books.
The chapter I'm working on is NOT chapter 1, yet all of my figures are forced to the format "Figure 1.1, Figure 1.2 etc...). Surely there's not some delusion that everyone starts with Chapter 1 and never breaks that pattern. I could easily envision a situation where groups (of at least two) are working in collaboration in a situation where an individuals might work from a common template and each work on separate chapters.
Certainly I can envision that under those circumstances, it's possible that IBA might automatically renumber figures in chapters that suddenly become say, Ch 3 instead of Ch 1, but still in my particular situation, this "Chapter 11" will be the only product at this time. The figures ought to be able to match the text. Yes, I know, I could simply type in the correct text in the figure header/footer, but if I want hyperlinks to work properly then that option is not viable.
Thoughts?

Ok... from help files here's what I'm seeing after a bit of digging.
Renumber chapters, sections, and pages
All page numbering is based on the landscape orientation. In iBooks Author, you can see page numbers in theBook pane, to the left of each thumbnail while in the landscape orientation. In the finished book, page numbers appear in the lower-right corner of the page in both orientations.
Chapters, sections, and pages are automatically numbered. (Chapters and sections are numbered separately from one another.) By default, these items are numbered sequentially throughout the entire book, but you can make a section or page start with a specific number."
So, apparently, at this point you can only set specific numbering for sections or pages, NOT chapters. If someone finds to the contrary, please post a reply.

Figures numbering issue

Hello,
I want to number figures' captions in a single document in the most simple sequence (Fig 1, Fig 2, Fig 3...). I have created a list and a paragraph style for figures' captions. In the paragraph style I have set Fig ^# as the numbering option. I get a very surprising result. My three first captions are numbered 16, 47, 52. If I restart numbering from the type/bullets menu, I get : 1, 32, 37. It's like there are paragraphs using the same list somewhere. However searching paragraphs with the same list returns only my three captions. What would you suggest?
Thank you

You have to check your paragraph styles. First I would look, on which style depends your style, the parent style. Maybe that you have accidently changed the parent style before you created your figure style, If this does not solve the problem, you should look which other styles may be affected.
Be aware that not all numbered list paragraphes may have a visible number!
Do also check, if you have changed other paragraphs without applying any style but affecting the numbering. Might happen. They sould have a + after their name if text is selected.

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