LaCie Big Disk Extreme+ Triple 2TB

I am thinking of getting a LaCie Big Disk Extreme+ Triple 2TB for use with Final Cut Express. This drive is actually 2 1-TB disks. Is there any problem using such a drive in capturing video (or anything else having to do with video editing/production)? Thanks in advance.

Do you use them for capturing and editing video?
Yes I do.

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LaCie Big Disk Extreme

I own a 500GB Lacie Drive (Big Disk Extreme) that is behaving very poorly. Without elaborating on its behavior I wanted to ask if there are any good companies I can use to replace the drive itself inside the enclosure from LaCie? I've emailed them about this but have yet to hear back & wanted to start a search in case they will not do it.
Thanks,
Harris

Hi
When I was looking into getting an external drive for my Mac, I found a number of posts which seemed to suggest the power supply and cooling used in the LaCie enclosures containing the higher capacity drives weren't as good as they could have been and may lead to premature drive failure.
As far as I'm aware, all external drives are just normal internal drives mounted in an external USB or FireWire enclosure. You can certainly buy the drives and enclosures separately and build your own.
Equally I can't see why you couldn't just buy a drive and replace the existing one in an existing enclosure, or buy an enclosure and replace the existing one containing an existing drive. I guess the only difficulty would be if the LaCie enclosure is sealed or the internal data and power cables are soldered into the back of the drive. Having done a quick search in Google, it doesn't seem too difficult to remove the drive from the enclosure and replace one or the other yourself. I'd imagine this would almost certainly invalidate any warrranty though.
I hope this helps.

Will a WD Caviar drive from LaCie Big Disk Extreme go into an internal bay?

Two LaCie external hard rives would not mount. I have taken the WD drive out of the D2 Quadra and put it into bay 2 in the Mac Pro and it worked immediately. I cannot physically fit the two WD Caviar WD2500JB drives into bays 3 and 4. Is there any way of doing this, so that I can see whether the drives themselves are OK, like the drive from the D2 Quadra was ? Is there some kind of adapter that can be used to do this ? If not, is there any other way of mounting the drives so that I can recover the data from them ?
Many thanks to anyone who offers any solutions.

We know, and read lots of reports, where LaCie are a problem, but you seem to be using PATA drives and your best option is pick up a FW case, one that uses ATA drives.
http://www.macsales.com/firewire/
You could though just replace the two drives with one SATA 640GB, just a matter of getting the data off. And for that you could try to find a docking station, but if they were in RAID you have more problems.
I would never buy or recommend MyBook, or any vendor label cases though.

Crashed LaCie Big Disk Extreme

The drive does not mount. Pulled out 1 of the 2 drives and put it into another case. It could then mount, but a single drive seemed to have too many fragmented file pieces without its other mate. Is the problem mechanical inside the box or is it one of the drives? Any ideas?

Oh, it's a concatenated RAID then, I think you still need both online though.
Might try Data Rescue II...
http://www.prosofteng.com/products/data_rescue.php
(Has a Free Demo to see if it could or not, but you'll need another drive to recover to).

Lacie 500GB Big Disk Extreme problem.

I have a Lacie 500GB Big Disk Extreme (Triple Interface), that the Airport Extreme (n) is not mounting.
It's formatted as Mac OS Journalled, and works perfectly if connected directly to my MacBook Pro by USB or Firewire.
When connected to the AE(n), I get the following error message:
"Your AirPort base station is reporting the following errors:
Disk needs repair
Errors were found with a disk connected to your AirPort Base Station. Please connect the USB disk to your Mac or PC and use Disk Utility or another application to repair the disk."
I connected the drive to my MBP and ran Disk Utility, which reported no problems with the drive at all. After repeated attempts, with various cables, I updated the firmware on the drive to see if that would solve the problem. It didn't.
Anyone else having problems with their Lacie drives, especially those of you with the Big Disk Extremes?

Am trying to get my Lacie 300GB Big Disk triple interface to work with my (new) Airport Extreme - however it just doesn't recognise it through the USB port.
Problem A - my macbook works fine with the lacie through FireWire cables (which is what i've always used), but the disks don't mount when its plugged in through the USB.
Problem B - would the Hard Drive work on Airport Extreme if I had a powered hub (with firewire ports) plugged into the USB, and then link up the Lacie through the firewire?
cheers

LaCie Big Disk Warning signs... Should I ditch?

Hi all,
First, want to quickly apologize for not doing a thorough read of all the posts regarding LaCie drives - the problem is that there are so many of them. People apparently are having all kinds of LaCie nightmares, and it would take me forever to read through everything. So here's my issue.
I have 3 LaCie Big Disk Extremes (d2), in three flavors. One 500 G, one 600 G, and 1 TB, each daisy-chained via FW 800 to the FW800 port on my G5 (Dual 2.5 GHz). All three have - until now - been acting just fine, but I just captured a few full HDV tapes to the 1 TB and I have had playback issues that just don't seem to go away. I'll play a few seconds, even at random points of the video, and it will freeze with the spinning beach ball of death.
At first I thought it was software issue, so I reinstalled QT, trashed preferences in FCP, but it all kept coming back to the same problem.
Now, here's the weird thing - when I copy the same video from my 1 TB to one of my other LaCies (which are actually further down the daisychain), the video plays fine, with no stuttering or freezing.
Now reading all of the LaCie posts is freaking me out a tad - is this some kind of warning sign that my 1 TB drive is heading down a dark path?
Is there some way I can fix it by either wiping it or attempting to see about fixing hardware?
And finally, is daisychaining all of these drives on the same FW 800 bus recommended, or is there a better solution (that won't break the bank)?
Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks guys!
Dan
(P.S. Any suggestions on other drive brands? A client just bought a Western Digital MyBook 1 TB, and it seems to be working great, but I'm open to suggestions).

Yes it is true that people report lods of problems with Lacie drives and there are many reasons for that.
Even the power supply is considered dangerousely unreliable.
Another thing is that drives can fail indeed at some point. If you can play the footage from some of your other drives then the 1TB might have some issues (power supply or other is difficult to say). Best would be backing up your media and if you can then run Disk Warrior http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/
Good and not massively expensive drives, should you want new ones, are G-tech and Caldigit (links below). You could RAID a few drives (RAID 0 for example for quicker workflow), however, choice depends on several factors: what format you will be working on in the future, if you want to upgrade to eSATA at some stage, etc. Use the search tool of the forum or google for hints:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5068643
Personally I would NOT go for WD. Not really designed for editing.
http://www.caldigit.com/
http://www.g-technology.com/

Lacie 2TB Big Disk Extreme Firewire 800 firewire 400 hi-speed usb2 7200 rpm sku 301201u knocked

I have a Lacie 2TB Big Disk Extreme + Firewire 800 firewire 400 hi-speed usb2 7200 rpm sku 301201u , which I have been using with an emac ( 1ghz power pc 4 , macos 10.5.8 ) for past few years.
A couple of days ago The drive was hit rather hard on side while on and up , the computer hung as the computer was up on a mac os 10.5.8 partition on this drive . Computer was rebooted and comes up on internal drive, lacie drive just made beep and click sounds ( i am actually deaf and this was what I was told ) every couple of seconds. Attempt was made to boot on CD to use latest available disk utility ( Macos 10.5). Lacie still does not show up. 15-20 minutes into this, I powered lacie down. This is when I started noticing a burned circuitry smell.I powered lacie down and disconnected it at this point.
Most Folks just suggest data recovery which can cost as much as $3000 or more which I really don't have .
I figured I open and examine the internalsof drive . I did so. The circuitry smells
like burned near the point where power comes in and the death diode is located, otherwise circuitry looks fine. One of the two drives , when taken out did not have a burnt smell and the other had a burnt smell towards the center but it dissipated in about an hour after it was taken out. There also was one loose screw inside drives chasing which ended up being one of the 4 screws that holds the disk drive's circuitry. I dont know but I don't think this could have shorted anything out but even though slim it is possible that such happened.
While I have Three DC voltmeters, I could not find the one that would accurately measure the voltage on the external power suppy to see if the output voltage on the 4 pins is accurate . I am still looking for the one meter that can do this.
I figured if I can find the exact drive in like new condition and swap the disks, if the disks are not damaged and if the culprit is actually burnt circuitry, then the drives should come up as they were as though nothing had happened.
I talked to a friend that suggested getting other cases and swapping disks but I guess that is not possible because the two disks are raided? ( raid 0 ) . I am also not even sure if the drives are raided the way they were put into use ( only through firewire 400) as the documentation suggests that only firewire 800 denotes use of built in raid0 but I am not sure. So again assumption is made that the drives are raided .
I contacted dealership of the drive which again suggest that Unfortunately it is not possible to obtain another drive like this one because it has been obsolete and out of manufacture for a long time. It is also a risky idea because if the problem is not with the drive enclosure hardware, there is a genuine risk of making the recovery process more difficult, or impossible.
This though does not follow logically. I have been able to see the exact drive with the same sku number offered as new or excellent condition more than 1/2 dozen times in the past few weeks so I guess drive can be acquired and tested before any such swap. If drives are not the culprit , I figure after a swap with a new enclosure and everything other than drives, the thing should not even be noticed and all should work as they did before the accident. If the drives are the cause , then the thing has been on 1/2 hour after the accident so the swap should not do any more damage or cause future recovery attempts any more issues than already might be there.
Any sound advice is greatly appreciated.

I tried the two good disks in the main chasis with new cables and power supply , and I could not get them to come on or show.
I put the good disks back in the second chasis with new cable and power suppy and it again shows ( prompts telling you that it sees a readable MAc OS disk and asks if you want to Initialize it ).
I put the first set together again with new cable and power supply and the light does not come on anymore . being hearing impaired , i put my head on the drive and hear this clicking sound every one or two seconds. The fan operates . The drive does not show when rebooting and it does not show on the disk utility. The drive does not smoke but smell of burned mica ( circuitry ) is still in my throat after a couple of hours.
From what I have learned the possibility exists that each drive is calibrated and the calibration is added to the control board , So like chances are that even if the two original drives are good and connected properly and everything else is good, they might and probably just wont work with a control board of another even exact drive. There are three tables / charts marked on each drive and specific locations marked on each chart which differ between drives . These I think are from calibrating the drives.
So I guess its data recovery...
Lacie Data Recovery wants $600 ( $300 x 2 drives ) if they recover data without need for a clean room , $3000 ( $1500 x 2 drives ) if there is need for clean room. If they don't recover , you dont pay , if they recover and you do not want to pay, then they just send you the damaged disk ( or perhaps keep it , or smash it then return it to you) .
There are many other data recovery services so I guess a few days to sift through them but I guess the maker reference should be the best way ( I think its actually a sub-company that lacie forwards data recovery to.
Too many factors are involved. One that will such be a secure thing to do or 6 months later you find out that someone opened 10 accounts under your name , or emptied your bank account ( thats actually not a problem because there is almost never any money in my bank account) . So security is a concern. I have encountered individuals that make it their business stealing peoples stuff from their disks. Once I even had one Tech guy which was refered to solve a problem I had , copying disks contents right in front of me for absolutely no reason. So I ask him what are you doing, and he says , I am copying everything just to make sure they are safe ( : ) )
Then there is the dalai lama , everything happens for a reason scenario. In which case I guess I have to consider the whole thing as Good Omen. and just forget about it and go on with my life ( maybe I go work in Mc Donalds : ) )
The bottom line is I can't believe that I am such an idiot not to have a proper backup system in place .
Thank you for the links, I will check them out.

LaCie d2 Big Disk Extreme - failure

I think there is a serious problem with the FireWire communication between MacPro and the Lacie d2 Big Disk Extreme: I just moved to this machine, and I'm experiencing a ridiculous number of bus resets. See this from system log:
Jul 4 07:28:55 computer-di-lol-productions kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) TI ID 8025 built-in: 5630 bus resets in last minute.
The disk usually mounts properly, then after a while and randomly slows down to almost a halt. Very scary. This happens on two identical drives, which work perfectly if I connect them through USB. Also, this happens both in FW800 and FW400. LaCie recently released an update for such disks which is available from their website, but my drives are apparently updated. I can't move up to 10.4.10 at the moment because I am using ProTools which is not officially supported yet.
Any hints and thoughts are greatly appreciated!
Marco Olivotto
2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon Mac OS X (10.4.9) Final Cut Pro 5.1.2 (suite)

Sorry for the late reply as I wasn't checking the posts. When I bought my 1TB I laready had number of other LaCie stuff, Cd writer, 500Gb and 250 Gb and a DVD writer. As I was passing the the 250 drive to my son I gave him the 1TB power supply so that I did not distrubed the cable arrangment, so I am guessing that I was using the power supply from one of the CD writers.
I really don't know how it affects it, but I am guessing that it just don't have enough beef to feed the drive or the interface. I did a internet search and I seen as a suggestion, I implemented and it worked. As I said all the disk utility software gave the drive clean bill of health, despite occasionally saying could not complete the instructions because of hardware error.
Ona different note this kind of thing happened to me before with my Canon 20D digital camera, two batteries died on me very quickly and charged very erratically , and when I bought my Canon 5D the new charger just charged them properly, so it was the charger that gone wrong but seemingly still functioning to a degree.
But if your drive is brand new with a brand new power supply, and checked your disk with some kind of utility software maybe it is your drive. I am guessing that you formated the drive when you bought it.

MBP w/ 2 LaCie 320GB Big Disk Extreme d2 Firewire reset

I have a 15" MBP 1.83 with 2GB RAM and 10.4.6. Connected to this are 2 LaCie FW400/800 320GB d2 Big Disk Extreme drives. A FW400-FW400 cable connects the first one to the MBP and the drives are connected to each other with a FW800-FW800 cable.
When scrubbing through video on these drives, often there will be a knock sound as if the drive being read from has parked and then the video tool (VLC, QTPlayer etc.) will hang for 5-10 seconds... then all is well.
What is causing my drives to behave like this - it does not happen when they are hooked up to my ALBook PBG4.
MBP 15" Mac OS X (10.4.6) LaCie Bigger Disk Extreme d2 320GB (x2)

Use the instructions in this article to partition the drive. You should read all of the comments before proceeding.
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Warning - itunes 7 and lacie Big Disk

At poresent I am attempting to re build my Lacie 500Gb hard drive because itunes 7 has crashed it, please be careful if you have wav files on a lacie big disk
Disk utility does not work to repair the drive, tech tools has recommended using file recovery, what a wonderful way to spend a Friday evening, not listening to music but finding it
Oh and if anyone from the itunes team is reading this and I certainly hope there is, please be aware that if I lose my 500+ strong CD collection from my Big Disk, I will be asking them to send the person responsible for saying this product was safe for public consumption to come to Australia and sit in front of my mini and re rip every single CD one after another. Then they can rebuild the playiists that I so anally created, then they should be made to go and apologise to every single person in the world that their shoddy decision has effected
What a fantastic start to the weekend, thanks itunes, next time wait until it's ready
DjDs
Mac Mini 1.25Ghz PowerPC G4 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 1GB DDR SD DRAM, Migli Mini TV, Lacie Big Disk

I have recently "upgraded" to iTunes 7 myself. I use my old PB 17" as a music server (since work bought me a new 15" MacBook Pro), and . . . uh oh . . . I have my iTunes library on a LaCie Bigger Disk Extreme.
Perusing through the forums, it would seem that a lot of folks have trouble with the new iTunes and external drives, not just LaCie.
iTunes 7 corrupted the directory of the LaCie disk to the point at which I couldn't even mount the disk, and Disk Utility couldn't help me. It was really strange. The first time I ran iTunes 7, it did that whole gapless-playback scan (whatever the heck that is) and then could find none of the songs (it asked me on each song if I'd like to locate the original?). Then, I quit iTunes and couldn't open the LaCie drive icon on the desktop. So, I rebooted, and the LaCie drive wouldn't even mount.
The latest version of DiskWarrior (3.0.3), however, recognized the drive and rebuilt the directory and, I am happy to report, with the rebuilt directory ALL my music works and iTunes 7 seems to work like a charm.
It's a little frustrating that Apple released such a problematic product, BUT, I guess they can't try every possible hardware combination. iTunes and an external hard drive, though, would seem to be pretty common.
Talltexan, have you got the latest DiskWarrior?
Stuart

Trouble with LaCie Big Disk?

I saw on an archived topic that some others had problems with this 500g LaCie Big Disk. I was curious if there was anyone out there who was having the same problems I am.
The Drive will just periodically shut off for no reason whatever. It's not in use, or anything, it's just sitting there being on, and I get the warning that I've disconnected the drive and don't ever do that, etc.
I informed LaCie about this. I was out of warranty, and they just sent me a new one and it just did the same thing.
Anyone else having problems like this???
If so, was it resolved??
Power Mac G4 Dual 1.25 Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hey Thomas...
Thanks so much for the reply -- a good thought - the drive actually can be connected firewire 800, fw400, or usb, and I'm getting the same symptoms when connected with any of them

Icon and use of LaCie Big Disk+ no longer

I purchased a LaCie 1 TB big disk+ external drive. Worked great out of the box. Large enough that I unloaded all of my other external drives onto it. Now, it (the icon) no longer appears on the desktop, allowing me access. The profiler states that it's recognized. I'm using my firewire 800 port which works fine with other drives, so that's not the problem. I also tried connecting it using the firewire 400 port. No luck. I've rebooted numerous times, with and without the drive plugged in. I've turned it on and off, disconnected the power temporarily, disconnected and reconnected, tried reloading the drivers, but get the message they're up to date and fine. Help!

Often LaCie drives will have power supply brick issues that are difficult to troubleshoot as the blue light comes on and the disk spins but nobody is home.
If the drive is under warranty LaCie will replace the brick no charge.
As an aside, you still need to backup the data that is on this drive otherwise you stand a chance of losing all of your data should the drive fail.
Luck-
-DP

Backups made with Time M. from M. Lion disappear LaCie external HD ( "Big Disk Extreme" 500GB ) , after upgrading to Mavericks.

Before upgrading to Mavericks proceed to make the most recent backup ( as often recommended as prevention against faults ), with M. Lion and Time M. on an external LaCie 500 GB HD . After the update without problems , proceed to restore iPhoto library as Mavericks and not on what my surprise is not in the backups made , have disappeared . Are only backups that you have made and the new OS with the new version I just bought iPhoto 9.5.1 for Mavericks. So do not get nothing but lose money because the new version does not seem to add anything new , but they are adapted to the new OS
Also in M. Time preferences , options appear as "excluded items back up " a series of folders that were not before, not excluded by me but by the process of upgrading to Mavericks, even folders whose names appear as not exist , then were changed months ago , now appear in M. Time Options to be excluded from the backup with their old names ( folders located on the MacPro in other HD 's connected HD different OS and different LaCie HD ) . I also remember that after several backups performed by Mavericks notice that appears Time M. will delete old backups to continue making new copies ( not allowed to say no) , even though the backup HD LaCie is showing more than 20 GB unoccupied.
Where have gone those backups M.Lion ? . What is the best way to recover them, and that not all recovery software are equal ? . Is it best to disconnect the MacPro the LaCie HD and wait for Apple to fix it ?
Thanks for your help .
MatiasFesp

Anyone that has used a LaCie, especially D2 or what you have, has run into the problem of...
weak power supply adapter, firmware on the FW bridge issue, failures, or the more common "discharge all the current on your cables and bus by unplugging everything" fix once or more.
Those are all foreign to me!
And I am using 6 FW drives regularly and a couple that are just emergency boot drives updated monthly.
For all I know, you might be able to throw your old drives into cases and get some more good use from them as well.
I prefer to not rely on a built-in bridge to do RAID, and to use Apple Disk Utility or another program like www.softraid.com to do so.
Depending on how much use those drive cases get, do they get just warm, very warm or hot, during operations? or just for backup?
And if you want RAID for editing or scratch or performance, look into eSATA. And cases with fans, ventilation, and that keep the drives to a reasonable temperature (below 44ºC and hopefully in the 30's).

LACIE 500g Big Disk Extreme -Daisychain or not

I have three LACIE 500g drives (and 2 smaller 250's) that I will be using to edit a small feature. I was wondering if(due to space issues) there is any downside to connecting one to the firewire 800 port on my computer and then daisychaining the rest off of that one, each connecting into the next. Am I losing anything (spoeed etc) by doing this rather than connecting each on into the computer inividually?
Dave

You'll gain throughput only if you built a striped array (RAID) and use a third-party FW800 card to connect the additional drives. You will also be at greater risk of data loss with a RAID (at least the type of RAID provided by the Apple Disk Utility). It's a speed VS reliability issue.
Simply daisychaining on a single FW bus will not increase the risk of data loss, but may slow down the overall drive read/write slightly.
G5/Dual 2GB/4.5GB RAM/FW800Storage/Decklink Mac OS X (10.4.3)

LaCie Big Disk 640GB Worked then stopped

I know Raid isn't supported by AE(n), but the strange thing is it worked the first day, then I started copying stuff on it and it stopped working. Is it because it started to use both disks?
Is there a way to upgrade the Lacie firmware to disable the Raid?
Any idea? Anyone?
Micha

Have you restarted the Airport remotely by say, changing any settings in the AirPort Utility?
That causes my USB-attached drive to disconnect from the wireless network every time. To get it to reappear, I simply unplug & replug it into the USB connection after the AirPort restart is complete. Worth a try if you haven't done that yet...

LaCie Big Disk Extreme+ Triple 2TB

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