Lacie @big raid sytem

I installed a LAcie @big Raid with a pci express controller.
When i copy files all goes well. But when I use the LAcie as an scratchdisk in final cut pro or adobe cs2 photoshop, the systems hangs and i have to restart the machine.
Are the pci slots of the macpro different? Has there been changes to the pci express protocol?
Who Knows?
power mac Mac OS X (10.4.8)

You might start by saying which vendor make PCIe, and
yes there are differences.
The vendor of the chipset is silicon image but the drivers are probably modified by Lacie. But they dont now the answer to the problem.
What are the differences then?

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LaCie Big Disk Warning signs... Should I ditch?

Hi all,
First, want to quickly apologize for not doing a thorough read of all the posts regarding LaCie drives - the problem is that there are so many of them. People apparently are having all kinds of LaCie nightmares, and it would take me forever to read through everything. So here's my issue.
I have 3 LaCie Big Disk Extremes (d2), in three flavors. One 500 G, one 600 G, and 1 TB, each daisy-chained via FW 800 to the FW800 port on my G5 (Dual 2.5 GHz). All three have - until now - been acting just fine, but I just captured a few full HDV tapes to the 1 TB and I have had playback issues that just don't seem to go away. I'll play a few seconds, even at random points of the video, and it will freeze with the spinning beach ball of death.
At first I thought it was software issue, so I reinstalled QT, trashed preferences in FCP, but it all kept coming back to the same problem.
Now, here's the weird thing - when I copy the same video from my 1 TB to one of my other LaCies (which are actually further down the daisychain), the video plays fine, with no stuttering or freezing.
Now reading all of the LaCie posts is freaking me out a tad - is this some kind of warning sign that my 1 TB drive is heading down a dark path?
Is there some way I can fix it by either wiping it or attempting to see about fixing hardware?
And finally, is daisychaining all of these drives on the same FW 800 bus recommended, or is there a better solution (that won't break the bank)?
Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks guys!
Dan
(P.S. Any suggestions on other drive brands? A client just bought a Western Digital MyBook 1 TB, and it seems to be working great, but I'm open to suggestions).

Yes it is true that people report lods of problems with Lacie drives and there are many reasons for that.
Even the power supply is considered dangerousely unreliable.
Another thing is that drives can fail indeed at some point. If you can play the footage from some of your other drives then the 1TB might have some issues (power supply or other is difficult to say). Best would be backing up your media and if you can then run Disk Warrior http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/
Good and not massively expensive drives, should you want new ones, are G-tech and Caldigit (links below). You could RAID a few drives (RAID 0 for example for quicker workflow), however, choice depends on several factors: what format you will be working on in the future, if you want to upgrade to eSATA at some stage, etc. Use the search tool of the forum or google for hints:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5068643
Personally I would NOT go for WD. Not really designed for editing.
http://www.caldigit.com/
http://www.g-technology.com/

My Lacie Big Extreme Hard drive does not show connection speed

*My Concern*
Hi I have a Lacie Big Extreme Hard drive, which although works fine is not showing its connection, shows up in the system profiler as 'Connection Speed Unknown'. -Should I be worried? I have other drives connected to my G5 Dual 2 gig machine and no problem their they all show their connection speeds.
*Other Firewire 'Unknown Speed connection' related Problem*
I had a DVD LaCie Dual layer portable Firewire drive which recently suffered from the same problem and I had to send it back. This was due to it slowly developing a fault of not being able to burn dual layer disks properly.
*What I have done to try and remedy the situation.*
I have been able to do the following but I am afraid with no change in the system Profiler;-
1 Trashed the whole system and rebuild
2 repair my permissions
3 empty out all my caches with OnyX (third party app) version 1.8.5
4 Disconnected all drives and reconnected them one by one to see if there are any anomalies within the system
5 switched my G5 off removed the plug from the wall waited 30 sec for it to reset itself this was the 1st attempt. On my 2nd attempt I then cold booted the machine and reset Pram settings
6 used Tech Tools Pro 4 version 4.1.2
7. Replaced Power supply of the offending unit (didn't have to but I wanted to be safe and eliminate this fronm the equation.
9.tried changing around the order in the chain to which the drives were connected to the G5but alas no joy!
Summery
So my concern is if a device which is Firewire shows up in the system profiler as connection speed unknown should I begin to worry even though it appears to be functioning.
Thank you ahead of time for any help on this matter
*Supporting evidence*
Please see below a shot of my System profiler so you can see what I mean:-
*(Important Note)*
The Lacie Big disk has 800/400 Firewire connection speeds I have connected it straight to my G5s firewire 800 port then daisy chained the LaCie's via its other 800 port to the two other 800 Firewire Hard drives.
When the LaCie DVD DL drive was connected, I connected it straight to the 400 firewire port. As it needed direct access to the G5 for it to function optimally.
*System Profiler Info under OSX Tiger 10.4.11*
FireWire Bus:
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
LaCie d2 Extreme LUN 0:
Manufacturer: LaCie Group SA
Model: 0x0
GUID: 0xD04B710B061FB5
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Sub-units:
LaCie d2 Extreme LUN 0 Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x10483
Unit Spec ID: 0x609E
Firmware Revision: 0x102
Product Revision Level: P22O
Sub-units:
LaCie d2 Extreme LUN 0 SBP-LUN:
Capacity: 153.38 GB
Removable Media: Yes
BSD Name: disk2
OS9 Drivers: Yes
S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported
Volumes:
disk2s6:
Capacity: 153.38 GB
Available: 102.21 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: HFS+
d2 quadra (button):
Manufacturer: LaCie
Model: 0x4136
GUID: 0xD04B840A07A9A5
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Sub-units:
d2 quadra (button) Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x484944
Unit Spec ID: 0xD04B
d2 quadra Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x10483
Unit Spec ID: 0x609E
Firmware Revision: 0x110
Product Revision Level:
Sub-units:
d2 quadra SBP-LUN:
Capacity: 465.76 GB
Removable Media: Yes
BSD Name: disk4
OS9 Drivers: No
S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported
Volumes:
disk4s3:
Capacity: 465.64 GB
Available: 250.79 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: Journaled HFS+
LaCie Big Disk Extreme LUN 0:
Manufacturer: LaCie Group SA
Model: 0x0
GUID: 0xD04B741A058BFC
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
*Connection Speed: Unknown --------------------------**{this is where my concern lies}*
Sub-units:
LaCie Big Disk Extreme LUN 0 Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x10483
Unit Spec ID: 0x609E
Firmware Revision: 0x102
Product Revision Level: 912
Sub-units:
LaCie Big Disk Extreme LUN 0 SBP-LUN:
Capacity: 931.52 GB
Removable Media: Yes
BSD Name: disk3
OS9 Drivers: Yes
S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported
Volumes:
disk3s6:
Capacity: 931.52 GB
Available: 181.67 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: HFS+

Hi BDAqua - thanks a lot for replying - really appreciate your help. I was using Time machine to back up on the old lacie drives that I have - I just backed up on both lacies and they backed up faster for some reason but that might have been because they were very small back ups as I did full back ups on Tuesday night - this is the info under the USB section > hardware > about my mac - it didn't show the speed like the example you gave me though but it still backed none the less :
USB Bus:
Host Controller Location: Built In USB
Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBOHCI
PCI Device ID: 0x0035
PCI Revision ID: 0x0043
PCI Vendor ID: 0x1033
Bus Number: 0x15
Bluetooth USB Host Controller:
Product ID: 0x8207
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 19.65
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: 0x15200000
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 0
I also got a reply back from WD on the hard drive and they said the following - exactly the same as you about it being a problem with the power supplied hence why the disk won't mount - so you were spot on - so I'm thinking I should go ahead and get the newertech 7 USB port 4 amps as you suggested - let me know what you think and then I'll just order it - and thank you - really do appreciate your help on this - thanks Jayas
Dear Jayas
Thank you for contacting Western Digital Customer Service and Support. My name is James.
If the drive is working fine on one system but failing on another especially with the "clicking" sound this is an issue with the system not being able to supply enough power to power the device.
These devices require power from the machine to make them operate if there isn't enough power supplied the drive will fail to work. This is why you are having no issues with one system but are on another.

ITunes and LaCie Big Ethernet Disk -- Media Server

I have LaCie Big Ethernet Disk (1TB). The drive has a feature called Media Server, you setup a directory copy over your music, photos, and videos. The drive shares your music via UPaP, it shows up in iTunes as a shared music directory. The problem I'm having is I see the drive in iTunes under SHARED, but none of the music files are listed. My files are mixture of MP3, AAC and Apple Music Store Files. So far I've tried these things:
- toggling the shared checkbox on and off - no luck.
- Created a new iTunes Library - no luck.
- Created a new share directory on the drive - no luck.
I've contacted LaCie tech support which were not very helpful. They think its an iTunes problem. Does anyone have any suggestions, things to try, anything?
Thanks - CH

The protocol itunes uses for it's shared libraries is daap, I believe. Depending on how large your library is, it may take quite a while for the server to index the library you are trying to share. It also may choke on files with unconventional characters in their names or for other reasons. my best advice to you would be to try sharing a different folder containing a few music files and see if you can get that to work. Once you know it works correctly you can start checking to see if there are certain files that are causing it to fail, or if your just not waiting long enough for the server to index your music folder.

LaCie Big Disk Extreme+ Triple 2TB

I am thinking of getting a LaCie Big Disk Extreme+ Triple 2TB for use with Final Cut Express. This drive is actually 2 1-TB disks. Is there any problem using such a drive in capturing video (or anything else having to do with video editing/production)? Thanks in advance.

Do you use them for capturing and editing video?
Yes I do.

Warning - itunes 7 and lacie Big Disk

At poresent I am attempting to re build my Lacie 500Gb hard drive because itunes 7 has crashed it, please be careful if you have wav files on a lacie big disk
Disk utility does not work to repair the drive, tech tools has recommended using file recovery, what a wonderful way to spend a Friday evening, not listening to music but finding it
Oh and if anyone from the itunes team is reading this and I certainly hope there is, please be aware that if I lose my 500+ strong CD collection from my Big Disk, I will be asking them to send the person responsible for saying this product was safe for public consumption to come to Australia and sit in front of my mini and re rip every single CD one after another. Then they can rebuild the playiists that I so anally created, then they should be made to go and apologise to every single person in the world that their shoddy decision has effected
What a fantastic start to the weekend, thanks itunes, next time wait until it's ready
DjDs
Mac Mini 1.25Ghz PowerPC G4 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 1GB DDR SD DRAM, Migli Mini TV, Lacie Big Disk

I have recently "upgraded" to iTunes 7 myself. I use my old PB 17" as a music server (since work bought me a new 15" MacBook Pro), and . . . uh oh . . . I have my iTunes library on a LaCie Bigger Disk Extreme.
Perusing through the forums, it would seem that a lot of folks have trouble with the new iTunes and external drives, not just LaCie.
iTunes 7 corrupted the directory of the LaCie disk to the point at which I couldn't even mount the disk, and Disk Utility couldn't help me. It was really strange. The first time I ran iTunes 7, it did that whole gapless-playback scan (whatever the heck that is) and then could find none of the songs (it asked me on each song if I'd like to locate the original?). Then, I quit iTunes and couldn't open the LaCie drive icon on the desktop. So, I rebooted, and the LaCie drive wouldn't even mount.
The latest version of DiskWarrior (3.0.3), however, recognized the drive and rebuilt the directory and, I am happy to report, with the rebuilt directory ALL my music works and iTunes 7 seems to work like a charm.
It's a little frustrating that Apple released such a problematic product, BUT, I guess they can't try every possible hardware combination. iTunes and an external hard drive, though, would seem to be pretty common.
Talltexan, have you got the latest DiskWarrior?
Stuart

Trouble with LaCie Big Disk?

I saw on an archived topic that some others had problems with this 500g LaCie Big Disk. I was curious if there was anyone out there who was having the same problems I am.
The Drive will just periodically shut off for no reason whatever. It's not in use, or anything, it's just sitting there being on, and I get the warning that I've disconnected the drive and don't ever do that, etc.
I informed LaCie about this. I was out of warranty, and they just sent me a new one and it just did the same thing.
Anyone else having problems like this???
If so, was it resolved??
Power Mac G4 Dual 1.25 Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hey Thomas...
Thanks so much for the reply -- a good thought - the drive actually can be connected firewire 800, fw400, or usb, and I'm getting the same symptoms when connected with any of them

Need help with Lacie Big Extreme that won't mount

OK Guys,
My buddy's Lacie 1TB Big Extreme won't mount to any computer we try. The blue light is flashing. We have tried different cables on different computers. After a web search for similar problems we found out several people had success just plugging in a new power supply. So, we ordered one. Didn't work.
I can hear the drive spinning up. Oh, I guess I should mention this unit is out of warranty.
Here's my question. After some research, I found out this drive has 2 hard drives inside and set up as Raid 0. This is the way Lacie sets these up for use right out of the box. So if I take the Lacie enclosure apart and try to mount the drives separately in another generic enclosure what will I see in terms of the files written on a single drive (assuming it mounts) since I am dealing with an initial Raid 0 set-up? My intention is to save the files. Please help.

Same problem with an external LaCie Little Big Disk = does not mount, but shows up under FireWire in System Profiler. I assume it's a OS X issue, because I ran a software "Data Rescue II" and this software has recognized the disk.
Has probably something to do with one of the latest OS X updates, because I've used this disk with Time Machine now more than a year and never had a problem.
I recommend not to experiment with partitioning/reformatting (if you care about the data on the disk) and push Apple for a solution. It assume it's some kind of an access problem.

Icon and use of LaCie Big Disk+ no longer

I purchased a LaCie 1 TB big disk+ external drive. Worked great out of the box. Large enough that I unloaded all of my other external drives onto it. Now, it (the icon) no longer appears on the desktop, allowing me access. The profiler states that it's recognized. I'm using my firewire 800 port which works fine with other drives, so that's not the problem. I also tried connecting it using the firewire 400 port. No luck. I've rebooted numerous times, with and without the drive plugged in. I've turned it on and off, disconnected the power temporarily, disconnected and reconnected, tried reloading the drivers, but get the message they're up to date and fine. Help!

Often LaCie drives will have power supply brick issues that are difficult to troubleshoot as the blue light comes on and the disk spins but nobody is home.
If the drive is under warranty LaCie will replace the brick no charge.
As an aside, you still need to backup the data that is on this drive otherwise you stand a chance of losing all of your data should the drive fail.
Luck-
-DP

LaCie Big Disk 640GB Worked then stopped

I know Raid isn't supported by AE(n), but the strange thing is it worked the first day, then I started copying stuff on it and it stopped working. Is it because it started to use both disks?
Is there a way to upgrade the Lacie firmware to disable the Raid?
Any idea? Anyone?
Micha

Have you restarted the Airport remotely by say, changing any settings in the AirPort Utility?
That causes my USB-attached drive to disconnect from the wireless network every time. To get it to reappear, I simply unplug & replug it into the USB connection after the AirPort restart is complete. Worth a try if you haven't done that yet...

HELP! My Lacie External RAID drive missing!

I had a Lacie Quadra 4big that stored all my project files (I work in the film industry). Its been working fine from the day of purchase (about 1.5 years back) but today I booted up my MacPro to find that it was missing from my desktop/disk utility.
Technical Details
The Drive connected via esata (with a custom esata extender installed)
Drive is running Raid 5(+)
What I've done to troubleshoot
Disk Utility doesn’t even show the drive
I've tried connecting the drive via Firewire and Firewire 800 with no result.
Needless to say I've restarted the computer everytime I was troubleshooting.
The only reason I can think of this happening(apart from total failure of the drive, which I pray to god is not!!)is something to do with bootcamp, possibly. I was trying toupgrade my Vista ultimate to Windows 7 yesterday, to do this I patched by bootcamp yesterday to the snowleopard version (3.1 Ithink). Unfortunately the win7 didn’t upgrade due to some error(Bad CD I think) but vista was working fine afterwords. After doing all of this and yesterday coming back to the mac this morning is when I noticed that my Lacie Drive was missing. Coincidence? I hope not..
Any help would be much appreciated as this is causing major problems with my work!!
Thanks in advance,
KJ

What does LaCie say? or OWC?
I find using "extender" is not supported, is not hot swap;, and advise against LaCie to begin with.
Not supplying OS you use, whether you looked for firmware OR DRIVER FROM LACIE is always #1.
I'd get a PCIe SATA card.
Unless you were using NTFS or HFS drivers, I don't see the device showing up in Windows, and I don't trust AppleHFS.sys
Best way to "upgrade" Vista is a fresh full clean install. Backup but start over. And remove everything - even Mac OS doesn't like extras sitting around. But put Windows 7 Pro 64-bit on its OWN hard drive.
Windows doesn't even 'see' the ODD SATA ports (newertech extender?)

LaCie Big Disk Extreme

I own a 500GB Lacie Drive (Big Disk Extreme) that is behaving very poorly. Without elaborating on its behavior I wanted to ask if there are any good companies I can use to replace the drive itself inside the enclosure from LaCie? I've emailed them about this but have yet to hear back & wanted to start a search in case they will not do it.
Thanks,
Harris

Hi
When I was looking into getting an external drive for my Mac, I found a number of posts which seemed to suggest the power supply and cooling used in the LaCie enclosures containing the higher capacity drives weren't as good as they could have been and may lead to premature drive failure.
As far as I'm aware, all external drives are just normal internal drives mounted in an external USB or FireWire enclosure. You can certainly buy the drives and enclosures separately and build your own.
Equally I can't see why you couldn't just buy a drive and replace the existing one in an existing enclosure, or buy an enclosure and replace the existing one containing an existing drive. I guess the only difficulty would be if the LaCie enclosure is sealed or the internal data and power cables are soldered into the back of the drive. Having done a quick search in Google, it doesn't seem too difficult to remove the drive from the enclosure and replace one or the other yourself. I'd imagine this would almost certainly invalidate any warrranty though.
I hope this helps.

Will a WD Caviar drive from LaCie Big Disk Extreme go into an internal bay?

Two LaCie external hard rives would not mount. I have taken the WD drive out of the D2 Quadra and put it into bay 2 in the Mac Pro and it worked immediately. I cannot physically fit the two WD Caviar WD2500JB drives into bays 3 and 4. Is there any way of doing this, so that I can see whether the drives themselves are OK, like the drive from the D2 Quadra was ? Is there some kind of adapter that can be used to do this ? If not, is there any other way of mounting the drives so that I can recover the data from them ?
Many thanks to anyone who offers any solutions.

We know, and read lots of reports, where LaCie are a problem, but you seem to be using PATA drives and your best option is pick up a FW case, one that uses ATA drives.
http://www.macsales.com/firewire/
You could though just replace the two drives with one SATA 640GB, just a matter of getting the data off. And for that you could try to find a docking station, but if they were in RAID you have more problems.
I would never buy or recommend MyBook, or any vendor label cases though.

LaCie Big Disk 500GB Crashes OSX 10.4.7 when booted??? Help?! I've lost it!

I had this problem once before with kernel panic, but at the time the drive was NTFS formatted for the PC I was switching from. I networked, manipulated the data around, and transferred the data over the network then reformatted the LaCie as a Mac drive and re-uploaded all the files to it via the Mac G5.
Now, after I upgraded to 10.4.7 it seems, every time I try to boot the computer with it connected, it causes a crash/kernel panic forced hard reboot shortly after completely booting up.
I AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN APPLE. I switched back from the PC, hoping for an improvement for my thousands of dollars, but nooooo. Aperture? HA! Mail? corrupted, can't find stuff from 6 months ago anymore... Jesus Apple, get your $#!^ together! /rant
Can anyone help me get this Lacie back online? I'm completely hosed now b/c it won't mount on the PC either now that it's been 'Mac'ed' - which I am starting to look at as a technical equivalent of 'pimp-slapped'...
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Hey Apple, looks like it's time for 10.4.8?
G5 Dual 2.3 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 4GB RAM

Ok, I'm going to jump in here now.
I have a Lacie 320GB drive, that I borrowed from a friend, that has an NT filesystem. I'm running a bone stock 2.3Ghz dual G5 (5 months old) and 10.4.7.
If I plug the drive into either the front panel FW400 port -or- the rear FW800 port the machine will crash in about 5 seconds. The screen goes gray from the top to the bottom kind of like a shade being pulled down. Then I get the message in a small window that says to hold down the power button to reboot my computer.
Funny thing is, I also have a 1.67GHz G4 15" Powerbook, also running 10.4.7, and the drive works in both the FW800 and FW400 ports on that. I also plugged it into my (very old) 350Mhz G3 running 10.3.9 and it works fine there too.
Now onto my second, but related issue. I have a 250GB Lacie FW800/FW400/USB 2.0 drive also. Been using it for almost a year and always worked perfectly (Mac FS on it). Before I tried the other external drive (talked about above) I plugged this 250GB drive in and ....nothing.... It doesn't appear visible to the Mac in any way since updating to 10.4.7. Used it two weeks ago when running 10.4.6 and it worked fine. Now this drive is NOT visible on ANY machine that I have. I've tried all three ports on the drive (FW800, FW400, USB-2) with different cables and different computers. The drive is NOT visible on any of them. Disk utitility doesn't see it, the system profiler doesn't see anything on any of the ports. Funny thing is that as soon as you plug the drive into a port it fires up (light turns on) and you can hear it doing its thing internally just like it always has.
Now this could just be a coincidence that it went missing after installing 10.4.7 but I'm starting to think that 10.4.7 did something with the drive.
Remember, I have 2.3Ghz dual G5 which is ABSOLUTELY in stock condition as it came directly from Apple about 5 months ago. No extras, nothing special. Looking at your signature I see that we have pretty much the same machine.
I can only conclude that there is some problem with 10.4.7 software and my machine's hardware. You are seeing the same behavior and don't have an NT filesystem on your external drive so it doesn't appear to be related to that.

Crashed LaCie Big Disk Extreme

The drive does not mount. Pulled out 1 of the 2 drives and put it into another case. It could then mount, but a single drive seemed to have too many fragmented file pieces without its other mate. Is the problem mechanical inside the box or is it one of the drives? Any ideas?

Oh, it's a concatenated RAID then, I think you still need both online though.
Might try Data Rescue II...
http://www.prosofteng.com/products/data_rescue.php
(Has a Free Demo to see if it could or not, but you'll need another drive to recover to).

Lacie @big raid sytem

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