Lack of Ram and Leopard= tragic

I just got the new Leopard as an early xmas-present along with a 500GB external hard-drive and the new slim keyboard.
I currently have a iMac OS X version 10.3.9, PowerPC G4, 1.25 GHz, 256 MB, and Bus Speed: 167 MHz.
I attempted to install Leopard and when my computer restarted it wouldn't go beyond the infamous blue screen with the beach ball spinning!! I contacted tech support and they helped me get back to the original screen and suggested that I need more Ram, which makes ALOT of sense!
So here it goes I've been fishing around forums and comparing answers. I'm unsure about what to get either a 512MB or a 1GB. I've recently graduated in Graphic Design... so I basically use my Apple for everything! I love it! I use Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Dreamweaver, Flash, Word, Firefox, iTunes, iPhotos, iChat and the list can go on. Please if anyone has any suggestions about which size Ram I should go for, I would really appreciate it! Thanks!
P.S I am also thinking about installing it myself, so far it looks pretty easy... (after seeing the many diagrams in the forums)

Hello Greenjuju and welcome to discussions,
Have a look in this, excellent, post by Mr Totes....
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1274834&tstart=0
Just remember to follow the instructions carefully and be very very gentle with the Mac - You will be fine.
Regards
Ian

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My iMac, (24" late 2006) can be fitted with 4GB of RAM but it will use only 3GB.
Will it use the full 4GB when I upgrade to Leopard?
i.e. is this 3GB restriction a limitation of Tiger or is it a hardware limitation?

BTW, 4GB is *800 times larger* than my first hard drive
The good old days, I donated my first Mac to the elementry school when I bought my second Mac a $2300 1995
Uh, yep, that's the good old days -- but I was talkin' about the BAD old days, as in: DEC PDP-8, Data General Nova, HP 2114A.
Of course, the hard drive I was referring to wasn't actually mine, it belonged to my employer. It was an HP 7900A: 4.9 MB @ USD $9975.00 ...that's 1971 dollars ...
... about the price of three new Volvos -- or a noob engineer's annual salary,
Looby
http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=275

Freeze-up after RAM and Leopard Install

Machine: iMac G4 1.25GHz 20-inch Flat Panel
Problem: Computer “freezes” after going through a normal startup. I believe that this is related to overheating. I have installed a new fan, the fan runs, but it does not appear to be running at a high enough speed to cool the CPU. The air output is very low when using the “feel” test (placing my hand over the vents). All the fan wires appear to be connected correctly. I have applied thermal paste and tightened the bottom housing bolts down securely. I have also reset the PMU and the PRAM. Any other suggestions? Should I toss it from a second story window?

I am not familiar with tearing down an iMac, so I have no idea what the wiring looks like. I would presume you looked for this information via Google or ifixit.com.
As for monitoring software you have lots of choices, but i think the best of the lot would be iStatMenus or iStat Pro - VersionTracker or MacUpdate. The former can put monitors in the menubar while the latter is a Dashboard widget providing the same information but as a widget. Both fully compatible.
Couldn't tell you what the default idle is on an iMac fan but most likely between 1000 and 2000 RPM depending upon model. Mac laptops idle at around 2000 RPM.

DVD's and Leopard on a 1 GHz

I just ordered my first laptop off ebay a 1 GHz TiBook w/ stock hardrive and superdrive and 1 GB RAM and Leopard. So will I be able to play DVD's on this old computer ? I bought it basically for internet to go and wordprocessing but an occasional dvd on it wouldn't hurt.

DVD playback will be fine. It was (and still is) working fine on the original PowerBook G4 Titanium with as little as 400 MHz, so you don't need to be worried at all.

Trying to update from 10.4.11 to snow leopard, the genius bar said I should be able to do this I only need 1 GB of RAM and I have 2 GB. I put in the SL disc and my Macbook pro spits it out. What do I do without needlessly spending more money to upgrade?

So this disc won't load. I recently bought a new ipod nano, but am unable to put songs on it without the latest version of itunes.
My Macbook Pro is 2008 and has 10.4.11 the guys at the genius bar said to upgrade to snow leopard to upgrade to lion and I shouldn't have a problem. I was told I need 1GB of RAM and I have 2GBs of RAM but the disc spits out every time after about 3 minutes.
This is my computer info, please please please help me install this disc so I can use this ipod I bought from you that I've been super psyched about using.
Hardware Overview:
Model Name:          MacBook Pro
Model Identifier:          MacBookPro3,1
Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:          2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors:          1
Total Number Of Cores:          2
L2 Cache (per processor):          4 MB
Memory:          2 GB
Bus Speed:          800 MHz
Boot ROM Version:          MBP31.0070.B07
SMC Version:          1.16f11
Serial Number:          W8******X92
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State:          Enabled
I don't want to be frustrated with apple anymore, please help me so I can be happy with apple again.

MAshmen wrote:
disc so I can use this ipod I bought from you that I've been super psyched about using.
I don't want to be frustrated with apple anymore, please help me so I can be happy with apple again.
You didn't buy anything from us.
These forums are user-to-user; no Apple staff are involved other than to moderate.
Meanwhile, I refer to you to X423424X's post.

I have a 2011 Macbook Pro 15" Snow Leopard Quadcore icore 7 with 8Gb of RAM and Im a Webpage Graphic Designer but why is my Macbookpro is so slow!?

I have a 2011 Macbook Pro 15" Snow Leopard Quadcore icore 7 with 8Gb of RAM and Im a Webpage Graphic Designer but why is my Macbookpro is so slow!?
I'm opening like Skype, AIM, Chrome the Memory Hog, Adobe Photshop and Illustrator... Its so slow! I tried Onyx, CleanMyMac, iFreeMemory or just purging but still i still have to restart to get it back to normal after closing all the applications... im not really impressed with the memory swapping thing,Even though my inactive RAM is like 2GB its so SloW! Anyone knows how to fix this problem?

It's hard to say why your machine is slow, but that machine with 8 GB of RAM should not be slow. Could be any number of possible problems. Try taking a look at the Mac OS X Speed FAQ.

Fan noise after upgrade ram and OS

hello there
i have a problem with the fan noise. it's extremely high. i'm running a MacBook Pro 15" and i had OS Tiger. i bought an iphone4S so i upgraded the OS to snow leopard. all running fine!
then two weeks ago i decided to upgrade ram to have a more perfect machine, and i upgraded from 2GB (1+1) to 4 (2+2). the brand is kingston
after that there is a persistent fan noise. it went worse when i went to my windows partition. then it sounded like an helicopter... i updated all software, bootcamp drivers and everything and i don't know what this noise can be... any help?

I did exactly the same as you. The ram I installed is Integral IN2T2GAXNEX2, 2x2 Mbs.
Unlike the original ram which has manufacturer's & serial numbers (as seen in system profiler) this new ram does not.
Manufacturer:          0x0000
Part Number:          0x000000463732353642363145363830304600
Serial Number:          0x00000000
The fans now run at nearly 2000 rpm all the time, from boot, although the temperature is only 19ºc.
Has anyone added actual Apple Ram and found the same problem? (some sites claim this Integral ram to be identical to Apple Ram).
Another site suggested non apple ram may lack a temperature control chip thus inducing the fans to run just in case.

Performance with 2GB RAM and SSD

I own a late 2010 MBA, 13" baseline model with 2GB RAM, w/SSD. I am using Snow Leopard, and it runs perfectly. I would like to upgrade to ML to sync with ipad, but a concerned with performance. I use my MBA for word processing, emails, and internet surfing, including occasional movie downloads. I cannot upgrade the RAM on this model. I would therefore very much appreciate if someone who has run the latest versio of ML on this model can inform me of its performance w/2GB RAM and an SSD drive. (I know it can run; I want to know how it runs). Thanks very much!

Just went through the same situation with my 2006 iMac. Technically my memory tops out at 3gigs, but I can get 4 in there if I insist (though the machine won't take full advantage).
After a considerable amount of research, and hearing some horror stories of some folks who dove straight into Lion on older machines, I opted on upgrading memory to 3gig, backing up all my data, then running a clean install of Snow Leopard. I then reinstalled all my stuff, followed with a run of Monolingual (a shareware program that removes unnecessary languages and builds), then ran OnyX (another shareware) to run scripts and check/repair permissions.
Works fantastic. Machine is operating perfectly on 10.6.8 and with the memory upgrade and clean drive its running faster than ever. Definite new breath of life in the machine.
As per memory upgrade, I'd recommend going to Crucial. They're very Mac friendly, customer oriented, and reasonably priced. They have a small program you can download that scans your machine to determine the correct chip required, then brings you stright to an info and ordering page. I managed to get a 2gig chip with shipping for about $25. With the Snow Leopard upgrade total cost was under $60 for resuscitation.

Can I run Tiger and Leopard on the same computer

Hi folks.
I've been meaning to install Leopard for ages but have never got round to it (I bought the retail box when it first came out). I have upgraded my RAM to 2GB and my hard drive to 320GB with no problems.
My upgraded hard drive has been partitioned into 2 equal parts of 160GB. These appear on desktop as Mackintosh HD1 and HD2. HD1 is the disk with all my files, music, OS etc and HD2 is empty
I have 2 bootable clones of my present system - one is on a 160GB external and the other is the original 80GB HD that I replaced.
My question is this - can I install Leopard on to my 160GB external HD, then clone it on to the empty HD2. If I do this would I be able to run both Tiger and Leopard on the same Macbook?
Is there any problems with this plan? Would I be able to transfer between the 2 OS and how do I install Leopard on the external drive. Is it just a case of inserting the Leopard DVD and choose the external drive as the target?
As usual thanks in advance
Del

# Original Tiger in the internal HD, New Leopard in the external HD.
# New Leopard in the internal, Legacy cloned Tiger in the external.
# Split internal, one partition with Tiger, another with Leopard.
Leopard is backwardly compatible with older Macs, just make sure yours fulfills the minimum system requirements, both use the same filesystem format, so each can see the other. You can't run both at the same time, unless you purchase the server version of Leopard and run it virtualized. 99.9% of Firewire external HD's are bootable, some USB's are bootable but have to test first. You can choose which system to boot from by pressing the Option key at boot time, before the chime. Just make sure the external HDD is plugged in and turned on if that's where you want to boot from.
When I migrated my PBG4 from Panther to Tiger, got an external FW HDD, cloned Panther onto it, upgraded using Archive and Install, cleaned up, customized and tested it. When I was satisfied all was ok, cloned the original Panther onto another partition of the external HDD, wiped and tested for failure the internal HDD, then cloned the known good and tested Tiger into it. Only thing that died along the way was my old and ancient Photoshop v2.x, that refused to run on Tiger.

Is slow time machine due to a lack of RAM

When I originally purchased Leopard, I used time machine on an old imac G5 with 2.5 gig ram without a problem. I have now changed my Mac to the latest Imac G5 with dual. I am starting over with TM and it is so slow.
I have checked that I have the correct format on my LaCie external 320 gig firewire hard disc. I am not running Symantec antivirus.
In the last 6 hours I have managed to backup 7.75 gig with 137 gig to go. This cannot be right.
I have only 1 gig of ram and have ordered an extra 2 gigs. Will this make a difference?
The data on my new mac was restored from time machine. I have the bug that prevents me from copying and pasting a new icon on my HD. Could this be related?
Help please

From my experience, there are a couple of things you can check.
First, if you installed any third party memory go to About this Mac and see how much memory your system is recognizing. I had a problem here even though I bought the memory from an authorized Mac reseller and repair facility. We cured it by removing the original factory installed memory and booting with the memory that I installed. It recognized it immediately and then I went back in an reinstalled the factory installed memory and it has been ripping since.
The more and bigger size of files that you are initially backing up the longer it takes. It did take a long time for me to back up about 70 gigs of data.
Also, for some reason, Time Machine doesn't like daisy chained FireWire drives. I have four in my system and the first time I tried running Time Machine, it cranked for hours and then gave me an error. I disconnected my backup drive from the daisy chain and plugged it into its own FireWire port and it worked great after that.
Personally, I like Super Duper as a backup better because it produces a bootable backup and can be scheduled to run whenever you want (I did it once a day). With Time Machine you have to use your install disk in conjunction with Time Machine. However, Super Duper is not yet compatible with Leopard although they seem to be getting closer. It like Time Machine does an initial back and then only changes files when the files change. It keeps only one backup copy of your hard drive not the hourly, weekly, etc that Time Machine.
Many people like Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) which does the same as Super Duper but I am not sure that you can schedule backups or if the backup it produces is totally recopied every time it runs or just updates changed files like Super Duper and Time Machine.
Again, Time Machine is very very slow on the initial backup.

1GHZ Sonnet and Leopard

Hello all,
I plan on upgrading my Powermac G4 AGP to a 1GHZ Processor. Now, I could get an MDD for about the same price, but with some of the upgrades I put into the machine, it is a bit safer of a choice to just keep it.
Does anybody have a Sonnet processor, besides the dual, that runs leopard?
I plan on buying either a 1 or 1.2ghz Sonnet Encore ST Processor. A 1.6ghz is a bit overpriced and not what I am willing to pay, so it is out of the question. I plan on putting about 130$ dollars more into this machine for audio editing, and maybe a few dollars more if needed.
My main question is Leopard's performance with a 1ghz Sonnet processor. My max price for a processor is 100$, and the 1GHZ can be found for sub 100$ on ebay. I also like the purple heat sink it comes with, and the fan !
Current System Specs:
Powermac G4 AGP 400mhz
1.2GB Ram (768mb at the moment, the other 512mb will be here soon)
ATI Radeon 9000 64mb
7200 40GB + 6GB IDE HDDs
USB 2.0 PCI (Coming Soon As Well)
Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11
Also, I have heard that a 9800 Pro card would be worth it due to my 9000 not supporting Core Image, which from my experience in previous posts, is needed for a smooth leopard experience, to take some of the load of graphics processing off of the cpu. So, in the end I should have 2gb ram, if all other upgrades go well.

Leopard runs just ducky on the Sonnet cards -make certain that you've gotten all the correct firmware installed.
I have a client whose daughter I set up with a Digital Audio G4 and a 1.2 ghz Sonnet, the Radeon 9000, 1.5 GB of ram and two internal drives - one a 40GB and the storage of 80 GB. It runs well enough for the 10 year old kid, but of course she's having problems with the flash-intensive game sites. (The world famous Apple/Flash un-mixy thing strikes again!) Video, sound and all the rest are fine - and for what you're doing - audio - you'll be golden.
Right now on my own G4 table frankenbox, I'm ripping vinyl LP's with an audiophile 2496 card and I've the stock 700mhz CPU. I thought of using the firmware 'trick' to get around the speed limitations of the Leopard installer, but QT 7.6.4, iTunes 9.2.2 and Audacity work well enough in Tiger for the work I'm doing I decided to let it be.
The one caveat with iTunes is when it rounds the corner on 10,000 songs it DOES take a bit of time to startup as it reads the library list.

Pro Tools and Leopard

Just wanted to know if anyone had heard any information about Digidesign patching up Pro Tools to work with Leopard.
I really hope they do it soon...

I just got this info from Digidesign on LE and Leopard.
Hello Everyone,
I'm Dave Lebolt, general manager of Digidesign. I wanted to take a moment to talk to you about what is happening with Mac OS X Leopard and support in Pro Tools. Some of you have commented that getting Leopard qualified far earlier than now would seem like a "no-brainer," or that Digidesign is often far too late in coming on line in support of newer OS versions. Some have hypothesized that we will charge for an upgrade just to offer you Leopard support. Some people have even said that it's possible that Apple may be causing problems for Pro Tools on purpose. And some folks have said all of these things at once!
The first thing I want to say to all of you is: I'm sorry. I'm sorry that getting here is taking so long and that we have not been able to communicate more about it, and also because we really do care about your experience as customers... People working here are passionate about Pro Tools, a lot of us here want to use our product with Leopard too, and most of all we care because we genuinely want to do anything we can to help you be creative and successful in what you do. So I'm sorry if we're letting you down by not getting things released sooner.
Lack of Leopard support across our product line affects many of you (and affects our business), so I wanted to give you some insight into what's been happening and where we are in the process. Some quick answers to the above statements:
* We have an excellent working relationship with Apple. I have regular communications with senior folks there, as do many others in our organization with their peers (especially engineering and test). The people I talk to at Apple want Pro Tools to be compatible as much as we do; they know that a lot of you are our mutual customers. Ultimately, Apple considers Digidesign to be an important developer on the platform.
* Rest assured, we will not charge Pro Tools 7.4 owners for an update to support OS X Leopard. In fact, it is not our policy (nor has it ever been) to charge for a "dot release" where the only change is support for a new OS version.
* We'd love to have the new Leopard compatible version out to all of you, and it's very painful not to have it for everyone right now. We start work on the qualification (and development process as required) early in the cycle. We begin work on the "seed" versions of the operating system as soon as they are available and sometimes things are changing even as the initial OS release goes to market. If anything changes after that (i.e., a dot release), we sometimes have to start over in addressing any problems that may be newly introduced and go through entirely new rounds of testing to ensure quality.
What's The Current Status?
We have been working hard on supporting OS X Leopard since its introduction to developers at WWDC in 2006 for many months (including some period of time prior to Leopard's release). As is often the case with entirely new major OS versions, there were some quick "dot" releases after introduction. Many of the problems that Apple addressed in these dot releases were critical to improve OS X Leopard operations (you can read about some of them on the support section of Apple's website). These improvements and fixes were very valuable to a broad base of Mac users. Unfortunately, the currently shipping OS X Leopard release, 10.5.2, contains some changes that actually caused problems with Pro Tools (and some other apps as well). In our case, the problems included audio interfaces not being recognized by the computer, track counts dropping to near zero, and errors coming up during normal operation. Some of you who may have experimented with Pro Tools and OS X Leopard 10.5.2 may have encountered some of these problems.
We have worked closely with Apple's engineering group, who have been working very hard in cooperation with us to get the problems ironed out. The good news is that we're getting close to the home stretch, but we have to do a lot of testing of the fixes that have been implemented in order to be sure that we're in good shape. We need to make sure that our product works well and you're not just getting something that's marginal, and it takes time to exercise all of the newly changed code.
What Works on Leopard? Anything At All?
Currently, only Pro Tools|HD systems running Pro Tools 7.4.1 software are officially qualified with OS X Leopard 10.5.1 running on the new generation Mac Pro 8 core desktop machines (with "Harpertown" processors). This means no support yet for Pro Tools LE and M-Powered, and it means that users of the new Mac Pros need to stick with OS X 10.5.1 for the time being.
Why this Message?
We have posted this information along the way (just a couple of weeks ago our head of customer service posted information to the DUC), but the amount of time that is passing combined with our concern within the company prompted me to want to reach out to all of you. We work cooperatively with Apple, and want to respect the process that we have in place for fixing problems; but I wanted to give you a bit more information about what's been happening and why we're not there yet...
When Will It Ship?
We hope to have the new release within between 1 and 2 months from now; some of that timetable is contingent on Apple. We'll keep you posted as we get closer. Normally, we don't want to give specific dates because that can cause problems in expectation and it's better not to have negative surprises, but I'd like to share this info with you in the spirit of keeping closer to you as our customers.
I hope that my note gives you a better idea of what's been going on — thanks for listening.
- Dave L.

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How to play Netflix on my Imac G5, it has Safari and Firefox 3, and over 1gb Ram and Mac OS X 10.4.11

You referenced that you had a iMac G5 model?
G5's are PowerPC CPUs and not Intel CPUs.
The Microsoft Silverlight software works with Intel chip Macs only.
And, if I am not mistaken, the software requires OS X 10.5.8 Leopard or greater to install.
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