LAN issues with the MS-7125 (K8N Neo4 Platinum)

UPDARED BIOS:
MS-7125 (K8N Neo4 Platinum, K8N Neo4-F, K8N Neo4-FI)
One place it said: Online Ver. 3.77.000 One place it said: Online Ver. 1.D0
The system now displaces a new Bios boot screen and the boot up number is now 5.2.16.
XP all up to date and LAN drivers up to date.
I am seeing a saw tooth ping to my WestTel DSL modem. On all of the other PCs here on my LAN the first hop is always 0ms. After updating the mother board bios and turning on the LAN memory I still get 0ms to 7 or 10 ms.
You can see more detals at http://webviper.com/LanIssues.htm
Any Ideas please email me at [email protected]

Sorry the system did not email me.....
I did update the BIOS and I used the liveupdate. I also updated the NVIDA drivers with a link that MSI sent me. This did help things out a lot but the issue is still there. I have updated the web page with more info and pics. I have disabled the Xp firewall and have hooked the pc up to the westtell dsl modem.
After a reboot things run fine for about three hours... Then it starts and get worse as time goes on. It is not a heat issue as my new case has 10 fans and the read out of the CPU is good! 34C
Thanks for the help.... Here is some more data... Do look at http://webviper.com/LanIssues.htm
Regards,
WebViper [email protected]
UPDARED BIOS:
MS-7125 (K8N Neo4 Platinum, K8N Neo4-F, K8N Neo4-FI)
One place it said: Online Ver. 3.77.000 One place it said: Online Ver. 1.D0
The system now displaces a new Bios boot screen and the boot up number is now 5.2.16.
MSI support sent me a link for updated NVIDA drivers and that helped the issue some. I do not have the link to the drivers as my link to the MSI support is not working now. Not sure if they have deleted it or if their system is down.
Lan Cards and drivers:
NVIDA nForce Networking Controller
Driver:4.8.2.0 Date:4/6/2005
Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
Driver: 8.14.1.3 Date: 9/19/2005
I feel that this is a Driver/XP issue. When i loaded the new NVIDA drivers that MSI sent the first hop went from 0-47 to 0-17.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_nf4_winxp32_amd_6.70.html
If only i could get the driver to make it 0 all the time like the other 4 computers that are on the same router.

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Quote from: ExpertNovice on 30-June-05, 03:43:00
Is the MSI website http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum/SLI&class=mb where MSI names the board as "K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI" incorrect? It wouldn't be the first time a typographical error occurred.
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