Laptop Build Questions

Hello all,
I am replacing my old desktop and laptop with a new laptop that is better than both. I am a film student and I prefer to do my editing at home as opposed to the school so editing capabilities is a must. I own the Production CS5.5 and I would like to build my laptop to match. I've decided on an Alienware because they are the only ones who provide Nvidia cards in a laptop and provide a nice exterior at a somewhat reasonable price, and I am deciding between the M14x and the M17x. My main question has to do with a video card - the cheaper laptops come with a Geforce GT555M card with either 1.5GB DDR3 or 3GB DDR3. The higher end laptops have a Geforce GTX560M or GTX580M with DDR5. Can those higher end video cards enable GPU acceleration? If not, is the DDR5 worth the upgrade to the more expensive laptop?
Also of question is the upgradeable memory. What is the performance difference between 8GB and 16GB? Is it worth buying the more expensive laptop for the ability to upgrade to 16GB alone?
Lastly, will the addition of an eSATA port for external storage make a big difference? I'd rather keep my storage external so I can move it to school when I need to, and because I just won't be able to get the kind of storage that editing requires in a laptop without losing another feature that I want like an optical drive or portability.
I'd rather go with the cheaper, lighter, smaller M14x if the hardware differences aren't going to make a huge difference. If they are, then I'll know what I need to do. Of course, everything would be much easier if editing applications would just support ATI cards. Thanks in advance for your help.

I'm sure that you are already well aware that video editing on a laptop has compromises, so the objective is to get the best mix of features and specs. considering your budget and tolerance for carrying weight and size.
Regarding GPU, the GTX 460M and 560M have reportedly been working well, and while the more powerful GTX video cards sound great they are more difficult to cool and would not likely be as robust for video editing. DDR5 is better.
Regarding CPU, you did not ask, but make sure you choose a quad-core 32nm CPU. Even the slower versions work pretty well and will save lots vs. the faster models of CPU in that same series.
Regarding RAM, go with 16GB for sure if you care about rendering speed (i.e. burning a DVD or Blu-ray). You can squeak by with 8GB, but with RAM prices today I would not suggest it.
Regarding eSata, I REALLY like it for laptop use. Fast and very reliable. USB 3.0 would be a second choice, and firewire 800 a distant third. USB 2.0 is pretty much only useful for backing up files on a video editing rig.
Regarding brand, Sager is the first choice around this forum for mid-priced laptops ($1500 to $2500) and high-priced ($2500 and up). Asus and MSI have some offerings that are more affordable, but do not have eSata ports.
Multi-spindle laptops are great. Some larger Sager's take up to 3 hard drives! The ultimate for video editing would be a SSD boot drive (around 120GB) + RAID 0 array with two 500GB or 750GB 7200 rpm drives. If you go with a smaller form-factor that cannot hold so many drives, Hitachi's G-RAID mini is a very nice small, fast RAID 0 2.5" drive solution that speaks eSata, firewire and USB (only 2.0); only downside is you need to plug it into a wall socket if you are using the eSATA.
Finally, don't forget to look at screen resolution, not just screen size. Personally, I would want 1980 x 1080 or better if I was editing on a single laptop display much at all.
Jim

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    53. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:18:57 Started Loading Attributes for INPT_CURRENCY.DIMENSION (5 out of 9 Dimensions).
    54. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:18:57 Finished Loading Attributes for INPT_CURRENCY.DIMENSION. 2 attribute(s) LONG_DESCRIPTION, REPORTING Processed.
    55. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:18:57 Started Loading Attributes for INTCO.DIMENSION (6 out of 9 Dimensions).
    56. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:18:57 Finished Loading Attributes for INTCO.DIMENSION. 2 attribute(s) ENTITY, LONG_DESCRIPTION Processed.
    57. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:18:57 Started Loading Attributes for RATE.DIMENSION (7 out of 9 Dimensions).
    58. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:18:58 Finished Loading Attributes for RATE.DIMENSION. 1 attribute(s) LONG_DESCRIPTION Processed.
    59. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:18:58 Started Loading Attributes for RPTCURRENCY.DIMENSION (8 out of 9 Dimensions).
    60. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:18:58 Finished Loading Attributes for RPTCURRENCY.DIMENSION. 2 attribute(s) LONG_DESCRIPTION, REPORTING Processed.
    61. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:18:58 Started Loading Attributes for TIME.DIMENSION (9 out of 9 Dimensions).
    62. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:20:26 Finished Loading Attributes for TIME.DIMENSION. 3 attribute(s) END_DATE, LONG_DESCRIPTION, TIME_SPAN Processed.
    63. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:20:26 Finished Loading Attributes.
    64. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:20:26 Finished Loading Dimensions.
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    66. 09-MAR-06 SPADMIN.APSHELL 08:20:26 Finished Updating Partitions.
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    Hi, I've taken a few minutes to do a quick analysis. I just saw in your post that this isn't "real data", but some type of sample. Here is what I'm seeing. First off, this is the strangest dataset I've ever seen. With the exception of TIME, DATASOURCE, and RPTCURRENCY, every single other dimension is nearly 100% dense. Quite truthfully, in a cube of this many dimensions, I have never seen data be 100% dense like this (usually with this many dimensions its more around the .01% dense max, usually even lower than that). Is it possible that the way you generated the test data would have caused this to happen?
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    If you really do want to try and aggregate this dataset, I'd do the following:
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    Quote
    Originally posted by ZippyGaloo
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