Large Canvas Sizes

I recently purchased a product called Roots Magic for an upcoming family re-union (Sep 13th). This program produces a Family Tree Wall Chart with a canvas size of 10.6" x 396.9" (1' x 33'), and growing. I have pictures within the chart so you can put a face to the name. I am trying to get some format that a local printer can produce a reasonably readable chart. The Roots Magic generated chart is great in format, quality and size of lettering.
I can only export it as a .EMF file as the other options cause RootsMagic to crash.
I can't use Adobe Illustrator, Design, or PDF (which are the preferred formats of the local printers) because their largest canvas size is 227". I tried importing partial EMF files, however, their print size was too small and I couldn't scale the objects without blowing the canvas limit again. Besides, genrating the tree and printing it in pieces, seems to alter the flow of the generations.
Adobe Photoshop has a larger canvas size, I think, however, it does not import EMF files.
I have most of the Adobe products, but I can't seem to find a way to produce something for local commercial printing. Muliple PDF pages, scaled to the same size, appears to be an alternative but I can't seem to find a way to produce this. RootsMagic does not have a lot of alternatives.
My options seem to be:
a) find some way to breadown the resulting object intio mutiple canvas sizes
b) buy my own printer/plotter.
To make matters worse, the chart is growing daily as I receive added updates.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Ian,
Realistically, the folks who come to mind who can output anything 33-feet long are the folks who would make large banner or perhaps some billboard and vehicle graphics stuff, and resolution is probably not going to be satisfactory. Also note, that a Dead Seas Scroll is awkward to handle unless you have a wall to unroll and tack it to. Also note that the graphic file size could exceed 1 GB.
>buy my own printer/plotter.
Forget about purchasing a printer that can handle this unless multiple pieces are acceptable. For example, an Epson 13" printer (figure spending several hundred dollars) can handle roll-cut printouts, but only up to 44" wide. But if you have to print out more than one or two sets, you're going to be spending a lot of time with this; and a lot of money on ink (and paper if you choose something better than the rather miserable, non-stable 28 lb or 32 lb inkjet bond). But then again, if you have a production house or printer output this for you, you may be spending $10-$12 or more per square foot.
>I can only export it as a .EMF file as the other options cause RootsMagic to crash.
Get tech support to figure it out, so that if multiple pages is a reasonable option, you can chop the art down and place each segment on a page of a page layout document, such as InDesign or QuarkXPress, if you can save to a compatible format, such as .pdf, .eps .tif or .jpg.
Neil

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