Late 2013 13" Macbook Pro Hot even if turned off

Hi Guys, has anyone encountered this issue? My late 2013 13" Macbook Pro Retina 2.6 Ghz, 8Gb Ram, 512 SSD is Hot even if it's turned off. So when I power it up, it already drained some of it's charge, and when I check the Temperature using Temperature Guage, the CPU temperature is at 59 degrees Celcius, might I stress that this reading is from a newly turned on macbook pro with out any apps running( at idle stage). My friend who bought his late 2013 13" Macbook Pro Retina 2.4 Ghz, 8Gb Ram and 258 SSD also has this issues.
Is this normal with the Haswell Chip? Because my slightly older late 2012 13" Macbook Pro Retina 2.5ghz, 8gb Ram, 128 SSD never did manifest anything like that. And when I turn it on, the battery has the same charge as when I turned it off.
Any insights on this?
Thanks!

Open Activity monitor to ALL PROCESSES and set %CPU to display values from high to low.  Are there any CPU gluttons that can be identified?
If your MBP is still in the warranty period, consider an appointment at an Apple store genius bar.
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