Late and variable playback from chapter markers

With my guidance, my video editor inserted chapter markers in a DVD she is creating for me. When I play the DVD on my DVD player and start the playback from a chapter, it seems that the playback is always later than where we placed the markers. On a second DVD player the playback starting from chapter markers is even later, and when I play the DVD on my computer with Apple's DVD Player the playback from chapters starts at yet another place later than where we placed the markers. This confirms what I've heard that standard for DVD players with regard to start-up is not so stringent as it is with CDs. So how do I know where to place chapter markers? How late might the playback start? Are there any DVD players for which it would start early?
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You will always get variation in performance in regards to markers on different dvd players. Unfortunately it's the nature of the beast. You need to test your disks on a variety of players and adjust markers till you're happy with them. Don't think you will ever see an "early" start, but anything's possible. There are a lot of very cheap dvd players out there and the implementation of the dvd standards is inconsistent at best.
When I have room on a dvd, I will sometimes have two versions of my show, one meant to play from beginning to end and another which consists of individual tracks for each chapter for access from a menu. This is the only way I can really control this behavior.

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