Latency recording audio

I'm having a BIG problem recording a new track - When I record a guitar track over an existing drum track in Logic Pro 7 - the guitar track isn't in the right spot (It's out of time) this never happened in logic gold (& I am a very competent guitarist!) & is a new problem for me in Logic Pro 7 - I've tried the support page (nothing there helped me in regards to this) - I've tried recording with all the tracks raw (no plug-ins) & the same thing happens!

So you say "(I've taken them (all plugins) all away completely!!)", does that mean when you were recording you had plugins running and PDC turned ON???
If so, which plugins were they?
I wouldn't go down to 32 on the buffer. 64 is the lowest you should go even on a G5. The thing about that is that in Logic, it doesn't change the latency when you change the buffer. 64 or 512, there's no difference in latency. Try it with a Logic synth (triggering from a MIDI keyboard) and you'll see that the latency is the same regardless of the buffer setting.
The thing about PDC is that if you record while there are latency-causing plugins running and PDC is turned ON, it is my understanding that even if you turn off PDC and disable all plugins, your recordings (that were out of time in the first place) will still be out of time with pre-existing audio.
If you were using Built-in Audio, I can't see how your audio recordings' timing would be off unless it was being caused by plugins.
Tell us, were there any plugins running when you were recording???
You probably understand that plugins on your Master Outs bus need to be completely taken out (not bypassed) for the latency to go away, right?
We'll keep trying to think of ideas to help you, just keep the info coming.

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Latency, Recording incoming Audio into Logic,... I don't understand

I'm trying to clear up my understanding (or misunderstanding) of latency of incoming audio into Logic.
As a test, here's what I did.
Set-Up
1. In Preferences/Audio/General, I set Plug-In delay Compensation to off.
2. In Preferences/Audio/Core I set the I/O Buffer Size to 32 (is this necessary?, to go that low?)
3. In Preferences/Audio/General I turn on the Low Latency Mode On, set Limit to 0ms (Zero Milliseconds)
4. Created a 1/4 note click track with Klopfgeist.
5. Just for reference, I converted to audio. Opened in the sample editor and it is indeed, exactly on the beat.
6. Set up my Roland Fantom as a Midi instrument. Channel 10 to trigger a Side Stick sound.
7. Create another 1/4 note click track.
8. Recorded the Rolands Output into my MOTU 2408 interface into Logic.
9 Opened up the waveform up in the sample editor, zoom in and notice it is obviously late.
10. Move the Anchor point 6 ticks to line it up,
Therefore, the incoming audio is off by 6 ticks.
Is it not possible to get 0 latency? I read the chapter in the manual but I believe this wasn't made clear, i could be wrong.
I have a guitarist coming over to record on my record in a week, I don't know how to deal with this except to move his entire track
by 6 ticks. ?

That is not really the type of latency that's affected by your audio I/O buffer setting. A DAW system has different types of latency, MIDI latency, latency caused by some plugins, AD/DA converter latency..etc. The six tics will probably remain the same or close to it if you're buffer is set to 64, 126, 256...etc.
Why do you have "Low Latency" mode selected, do you know what it's function is?
The I/O buffer setting affects two main aspects.
The response of the system when you play a virtual instrument, and...
...real-time monitoring of an audio input track. (this is an audio signal that passes through Logics audio engine and can use live effects)
The example using the Fantom requires MIDI sent to the keyboard and the audio into the MOTU passes through the AD converter.
What you want to set is the Record Delay so that your audio records in time, however... it needs to be set using a loopback test.
Use a 1/4 note recorded audio click (side stick) that you've adjusted to be perfectly on the beat copy it a few times. Use a cable from the MOTU's output to an open channel's input, record the click, compare.. now adjust the "Recording Delay" until the recorded click matches the first click.
Recording delay is on the Preferences/Audio tab.
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Unable to record audio

I am trying to record audio into Logic through a electro-acoustic guitar and AKG microphone, which are both plugged into my Saffire 6 interface. Everytime I set up a new audio track and select the 'R' record button, a loud static noise plays through my monitors. You can see that the interface is picking up a signal from the guitar but all you can hear is the static.
When I increase the gain on the instrument channel on my interface, the noise stays at the same level. But when I increase the volume of the monitors or the volume of the mixer channel in Logic the noise gets louder. This makes me think that all the cables are fine but it is something to do with a setting in Logic.
The mixer channel in logic always looks like this when audio recording is enabled:
I've read on some other forums that it might be to do with the buffer size - I've tried changing this but the problem seems to persist. I also read that it might have something to do with setting the midi clocks in the synchronization tab but there wasn't enough information explaining how to do this.
My midi setup currently looks like this:
I've had this problem for ages now and can't find a way around it....

Couple of more questions:
Does the Focusrite have a feature called zero latency monitoring, also called direct monitoring? If so make sure it is turned off and not used. The Saffire has a "Mixer" knob, do you have that in the correct position. Do you have the latest drivers? 2.6 it looks like.
http://www.focusrite.com/products/audio_interfaces/saffire_6_usb/downloads/
Does the microphone channel work ok? Have you tried reversing them.
What happens to that channel if the guitar is not plugged in, is there any noise?
Are you using a standard 2-conductor guitar cable, or is it by chance a three conductor stereo cable? It should be just a standard guitar cable.
It there anything else being used on the USB bus, are you plugged into a USB hub or directly into the Mac?
Speaking of which, wht Mac and OS?

Trouble recording audio in Cubase SX with X-Fi Platinum

Hi everyone,
I'm trying to record audio in Cubase SX with my X-Fi Platinum. I have:
- Selected Creative ASIO for the ASIO driver
- Ensured that the VST inputs are set to the correct X-Fi input
- Ensured that the VST outputs are set to the X-Fi Front Left and Right outputs
- Switched on direct monitoring in the mixer, and I can hear the audio input before trying to record anything.
- Enabled recording for the audio track in my project
- There are no inserts, sends or EQ specified on the audio track - it's all clean.
My problem is this: When I hit the master record, the recording bar on the audio track doesn't move. On the occasions where the recording bar does move (I'm not sure how I managed to get it moving), no sound is being recorded - even though I can hear via direct monitoring the sound that I am trying to record.
The other symptom that I am getting is that the VU meter for the audio track in the mixer is not displaying or moving prior to recording or during recording - even though I can still hear the audio via the direct monitoring.
I'm new to Cubase SX, and I'm probably missing something simple. Can anyone help me?
Thanks!

You brought up quite old thread so maybe no vista yet at that time.
Sometimes, setting latency too low may prevent recording/playing ... or setting the monitoring
false (there are hardware monitoring and software monitoring which maybe can't be used at once).
SX has also a settings option named as "Lower Latency" which sometimes is best to leave disabled.
jutapa
Message Edited by jutapa on 02-16-200811:13 AM

Recorded audio ahead of physical recording

Hey guys. So this weekend we were in the studio working on a new song. I'm having a problem when recording audio. I noticed it when we started laying down an acoustic track. The acoustic is stereo mic'd and I'm recording on 2 separate mono tracks. I have low latency mode turned on and I hear no latency at all through the headphones. After I record the track (spot on with the drums), we play it back and the track is rushed. I have to nudge the tracks right about 6 times to get it lined up to where it was actually played. The same goes for every track I recorded, even to the point where I had to use flex time to line the lead tracks up properly. I know for a fact I didn't play it rushed like this.
In my preferences, it shows a round trip latency of 17.7 ms and the sample delay slider is set to -646 by default. I have a Presonus FP10 that I'm using. I have no effects turned on for the recorded track (minus POD Farm for the electric tracks). This happens all the time, Logic is moving the recorded audio forward in time. I have to fix this, because we'll be laying down bass and vocals this week. There are very few other plug ins running in the session (and this is all the sessions too). The only bus is a drum bus using a compressor with a 2:1 compression set. The only reverbs are on the overheads and high hat tracks.
Why is Logic shifting my recorded audio forward?

gnogtr wrote:
the sample delay slider is set to -646 by default.
Do you mean the recording delay slider? If so, I suspect that's why your tracks are playing back early. The default value should be zero unless the Presonus driver is reporting the delay to Logic and Logic, in response, is setting that value to -646. But as far as I'm aware, Logic doesn't even do that.
Try this test:
• start with a blank song with no plugins anywhere, PDC set to OFF, and software monitoring set to off (_don't leave any of those steps out_)
• set the recording delay slider to zero
• take a track (something that has drums or distinct rhythm to it) and place it on track 1, bar 2 (yes, bar 2)
• take patch cords and physically connect the stereo output of the interface back into inputs 1 and 2. No, you won't blow anything up by doing this.
• create a new audio track, assign it to inputs 1/2 and put it into record-ready
• go into record and record about 10 or 20 seconds of the track from bar 1
• take the track out of record and play back both tracks.
At this point, do they sound like they're flamming or flanging? Or do they sound tight playing together? If they sound tight then your basic problem was that recording delay setting of -646.
This doesn't mean you're out of the woods yet, but the test I outlined above will put you on the right track.

Recording Audio Playback offset/delayed

As a loyal Logic member since version 7, I recently started having a problem when playing back audio tracks. The audio seems to playback behind the beat. Is there a recording playback offset or delay option perhaps I accidently switch on or altered?
Please help.
Terrytagg

Are these recently recorded audio tracks?
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Delay when recording audio compared to my midi click

Im using my Powerbook G4 1.5G and a Presonus Firebox to record audio with a midi click. I´m using the firebox mixer for monitoring and have switched off logic software monitoring. I have no latency when listening while recording, but when listening to the recorded file, it´s delayed compared to the pre-recorded click loop.
This is what I don´t understand. Why is the recorded file delayed? I have the delaycompensation off. It does not matter if I record on the internal disk or a Lacie external firewire disk.
I have a G4powermac and a motu 2408 mk3 with no problems like this what so ever.
Should i do a midi signal output correction? Is this really necessary on a setup today? Why do I not have the same problem on my G4 Powermac?
I hope somebody have an idea.

there is always some latency when the signal goes thru the computer.
you can do a test and determine how much delay you are seeing and then
go to:
audio/audio hardware & drivers/drivers
and in the recording delay box put in the amount to be compensated for.
With my setup i fugured out that I had 57 ms of delay.

Recording audio from a DVD

Does anyone know of a good freeware or shareware program for recording audio from a DVD into any format?
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A nice tool for ripping and demuxing the audio part off a DVD is OSex.
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Trying to record Stereo Mix with a monitor through my headphones. Using Screenium to record Audio and Video, using Avid MBox Mini with MXL 909 Microphone for the audio through the interface.

Basically, what I am trying to do is this:
Record my screen through Screeenium, record my voice as audio through an Avid MBox Mini (interface) with a MXL 909 microphone to pick up the audio. I have all that figured out. I'm able to efficiently record my audio and screenplay through these instruments and programs. What I am having trouble with is the stereo mix. I am running into a slew of problems here... My goal: Add on the audio of a game that I am playing (for example, Amneisia) so that the audio for my game will be picked up internally, and not through the speakers to be recorded through the microphone. I want there to be no external sound except me talking into my microphone. I also want to be able to HEAR the audio of the game through my headphones (and if possible, myself as well, through a monitor maybe?)
Problems I have run into so far:
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-Downloaded soundflower, have the output as soundflower. Not picking up anything, will put all my sound and midi settings at the end.
-When I do record through my microphone, it is only picking up a single channel (left earpiece only, no right channel)
-I have figured out it is NOT the equipment, I use Pro Tools and am able to pick up both channels with my mic, recorded a few tests. It's settings and I can't figure it out
-Trying not to run 16 million programs while running the game, will cause lag.
Summed up:
Trying to record:
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-Record voice through Avid MBox Mini and MXL 909 microphone.
-Record screen gameplay through Screenium
I followed a guide that told me to achieve "stereo mix'' I need to download soundflower and follow "X" steps. That is done and these are my current settings:
Audio Midi Setup - Stereo Mix custom Aggregate Device, Soundflower (2ch) selected, Avid Mbox Mini selected, Soundflower Output #1 has 2 channels (1-2), using Avid MBox mini for "Input" in order to record. Using Soundflower AND Avid MBox mini as "Output" in order to hear the sounds and replay game sounds (could be the problem? Maybe?)
Sound Settings - Output Stereo Mix (custom channel) Input Avid MBox Mini (recording)
I'm hoping this isn't too hard to understand.. I'm VERY bad at explaining information regarding computers.. It's hard becuase I don't understand it. I can clarify anything that I am able to, so any help on finding certain things would be greatly appreciated.
My computer: Macbook Pro MAC OS X Lion (11G63) 10.7.5 2.4 GHz Intel Core i7 4GB 13333 MGz DDR3 (If any of this is imporant)

Hey guys,
I tried to do some research and it looks like you need to have an external device and its drivers, such as an external microphone, installed on the computer to record audio that can be saved as a sound file. Another Suggestion is to try an auxiliary spliter for your headphones and external speakers?
What software are you using to record your game?
If anyone knows anything different, please let me know.
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Recording Audio and Midi at the same time in Logic 7 Express Can it be done

I am wondering if I can record audio and midi at the same time in Logic 7 Express. I am running my guitar thrugh a Roland GR 33, and a line out and using the GR 33 to trigger sounds in the Logic's synth section but cant seem to record all three tracks at once. If any one knows how let me know. Oh and I am running the GR Synth and Guitar into the Prosonus Fire Fox and have the GR 33 out midi to the Fire Box as well. So I guss the question is how do I sent up two audo tracks and one midi track to record in real time. Thanks Victor

I am wondering if I can record audio and midi at the
same time in Logic 7 Express. I am running my guitar
thrugh a Roland GR 33, and a line out and using the
GR 33 to trigger sounds in the Logic's synth section
but cant seem to record all three tracks at once. If
any one knows how let me know. Oh and I am running
the GR Synth and Guitar into the Prosonus Fire Fox
and have the GR 33 out midi to the Fire Box as well.
So I guss the question is how do I sent up two audo
tracks and one midi track to record in real time.
Thanks Victor
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Without the ability to record audio in this fashion, the iPad is a useless paperweight for me.
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Hi there,
I am wondering if Flash Player 10 will allow a Flex app or a Flash app the ability for the user, inside of a web-page, to record some audio with their microphone then click a button to activate the OS's Save File dialog? The user would then just save the audio on their local filesystem.
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Hi, everyone,
If we can record audio from Flash Player 10 inside of a webpage and save audio files onto our local places by the use of mic applications, it will be very convenient. In fact, we can turn to use other available programs to record audio from flash and save locally by clicking buttons. It is possible to use recorders to record audio on flash or any other media players.
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