Latency recording live keyboard through MOTU 828

I am getting some latency playing a Korg SG1 Sampling Grand live in stereo into a MOTU 828 connected by Firewire to a G4 powerbook - not many tracks of audio running.
The monitor mix out of the MOTU and into a modest desk with headphones has a slight latency during recording.
Apart from plugging a pair of headphones directly into the MOTU what general advice would anyone have for reducing latency in Logic? Are there any settings etc I should change?
many thanks in advance

If you need to get Live recording in Logic with 828 and software monitoring active look the following settings:
I advice you to don't use compressors on the Buss in the live recording phase and set PDC to
This allow you to use Logic compressors and EQ on the channel inserts without adding latency. (and , off course, any Virtual instruments)
With PDC set to "all" you must use the Logic 8 "Low Latency Mode"! (I still prefer to avoid the PDC set to "All" in Live MIDI recording phase.)
You can also try to reduce the Sample buffer to 128... (but the CPU-power request should be too much for your G4).
You can also set software monitoring to OFF and use the Motu with its zero latency monitoring...
In order to use Virtual Synth you must use software monitoring... the 256k buffer is very fast with my Motu 828MKII and it works great... remember just to don't use PDC set to ALL!
PS:
Are you on 828 MK2?
I'm waiting for the new MK3 because it is a great interface for Live recording because inclde Compressors Reverbs and EQ that can be used indipendently from software monitoring of your DAW.... (my opinion, it is the best interface that you can buy at this time... higest top professional quality with a killer price )

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