Layer palette still opens everything on launch

Why is this bug still in this program? This is my palette as saved...
Same palette after relaunching...
....and it goes on like this for another 10 inches or so. Every layer and group was minimized prior to saving. Does anyone in the AI development team have any idea how unbelievably annoying this is? It's been like this for years. What will it take to get this fixed?

You can differ with me all yopu want and it is not random as I pointed out and as Scott pointed it out and it is no a bug.
You don't have to heed this advice but if you all keep calling things a bug when they are things which you do not like it will not get changed no matter how much it is called a bug.
here is the reason the teaam and the people who make the decisions to fix bugs or implement feature request will look at it based on what kind of complaint it is and if call some a bug which is not a bug well they are going to say "It's not bug so they just don't understand that is the way it was designed to work!" So they will ignore it!
Do you see what I am telling you?
If on the other hand you face the fcas and tell them you do not like this behavior because I lose time closing all the layers because he list can really get long beccause I create sublayers as a tool to help me arrange amy work and to navigate through the layers panel in an effective way which is important to me they will listen to you.
I agree you should have control over this because believe it or not there will be users who prefer it the other way.
This is a type of option that can be had in a point release which they intend to dosince they have the Cloud method of distribution this is the kind or alteration in behavior that can be had if you make a feature request and give them some good sound reason for doing this for you.
I will point out something, recently there have been several of the team that has chimed in on some of the forum posts, I don't know them but from their comments they seem like suoper professionals and they just might listen to you.
Make a feature request and who knows and make a good positive agrument for the feature.
It always works they are responsive.

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