Layer thumbnails

I was watching a J. Kost flash turorial and she selected the option to change the size of layer thumbnails and the options showed samples next to the size selection circles. When I went to change the size of my layer thumbnails all I saw were selection circles and no size sample pictures next to them. Is that a PC vs Mac thing or is something missing from my version of CS4? I believe I saw thumbnail sample sizes in CS3.
Don

Hi Don,
You are hitting a known Win only issue with certain types of plug-ins. We are working with 3rd party plug-in developers to try and resolve the non-displaying icons.
The workaround at present is to select Help> About Plug-in> NIK (3rd party vendor plug-in). [If you have multiple plug-ins installed you may have to go thru all of them]. Just bringing the About box and dismissing it clears things up for the session. Unfortunately, it only works for that session and must be repeated for each launch of Ps.
regards,
steve

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