"Layout Breaks"

I inserted a "layout break" into some docs i'm making for music lead sheets and can't remember how i did that. Anybody?

Hi cosmicb,
If you are using Pages '09 and would like to insert a layout break into your document, you may find the following article helpful:
Pages '09: Using layouts - Apple Support
Regards,
- Brenden

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I might not fully understand the problem but take the paragraph break off the end of the line on the first section:
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z,
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Hi MartinSmith,
Welcome to Pages '09 discussions.
I'm not quite sure what you're doing so here's what I did:
1. Created a new document
2. At the top I put Author below that Affiation then immediately did Insert > Layout Break
3. Made the remaining of the page two columns.
My document doesn't have the extra line feed you speak of. It most likely is I'm not following your lead. Please provide more information so we may better assist you.
These Discussions are enduser helping enduser, not Apple employees answering questions. Apple provides these discussion forums for endusers however, Apple neither monitors nor engages in discussions. Enduser such as yourself when they have extra time answer questions.
Again, welcome to Pages '09 Discussions, have fun here.
Cordially,
RicD

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The headers appear on top of pages which means that they appear after pages or section breaks.
It seems that you did something wrong. When I insert a section break the app doesn't create a new page, it insert a forced separation between two existing pages.
Are you sure that you used the menu "Insert a section break" ?
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_Go to "Provide Pages Feedback" in the "Pages" menu_, describe what you wish.
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Welcome to the forums, OwlRemembers.
You should be OK with using the table as you are. The problem is probably arising because you aren't inserting the section break into the default text box on the page. This may be because the cursor is being inserted into the header, or that the table is covering the entire default text box, and so clicking in the main part of the page selects a table cell.
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