Legacy file vault - new machine.

This will probably be a stupid question - please bear with me - 59 year old, largely self taught regarding tech stuff.
I have a 2007 macbook pro with legacy filevault enabled. I realised after I had installed Lion that there was a new version of filevault, but when I attempted to move to the new filevault I was unable to get rid of the legacy version as the process seems to demand more disc space than was available, so I have just left things as they were.
I have now bitten the bullett and have bought a new Macbook Air, which will still be running Lion.
My question is ...when I move my stuff from my old to my new laptop, with migration assistant, will the legacy filevault move too, or is it specific to the old machine?
The question itself probably reveals my basic lack of understanding, so be gentle with me!

When you migrate your data Lion will ask you if you want to keep legacy filevault or turn it off. If you choose to turn it off, you may have the same issue with your new MBA - not enough diskspace - and be unable to.
If the MBA has got enough diskspace, no problem.
Both Lion and Mountain Lion will run with legacy filevault enabled. Who knows about what comes after that.
You could try turning it off by cloning the disk to a larger external disk drive, booting off that drive, turning FV off, then cloning the un-turned off external drive back to the internal.
For cloning, use the free utility Carbon Copy Cloner.

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....so, it seems to work now.
I did eventually go through the routine of backing up my home folder manually on the TC, then I created a new account, copied everything back, deleted the old account, and so on, as described in the link above.
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HT4889 I have problems with legacy time vault on my current computer. Will migrating my files ransomer this to my new computer.

When I installed Lion to my current macbook pro I didn't relise there was a new timevault. I am unable to disable the legacy version as more disc space than I have available is required.
Will I be able to start fresh WITHOUT timevault when I migrate to my new Air? Or will the legacy timevault transfer.

That article doesn't say that you have to disable FV before installing Lion; in fact, it says the opposite. You have to disable legacy FV before activating FV 2.
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My question is ...when I move my stuff from my old to my new laptop, with migration assistant, will the legacy filevault move too, or is it specific to the old machine?
The question itself probably reveals my basic lack of understanding, so be gentle with me!
Oldcelt,
Since you have now bought a new MacBook Air, you may now have enough space to deactivate the legacy FV after migration, and yes, it would be migrated over. However, I recommend that you deactivate the FV on your old machine before you migrate it over to the new machine. That way you'll remove any possibility of not being able to deactivate it later on.
Sorry, for contributing to the confusion.

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