Leica Dlux 4 question

I understand that Aperture does not yet support the Leica Dlux 4 Raw files. If I shoot the raw/jpeg combo with the dlux4, will Aperture import the jpegs? Then I would re-load the raw files when Aperture updates with the raw conversion.

powaq wrote:
I think I read somewhere that A3 does automatically do lenscorrection with the LX3/D-Lux 4. But you can't manually adjust it.
Or did I dream that ?
Nope, not a dream... here is the text from my post elsewhere...
All singing here as 33,456 Leica D-LUX 4 .RWL files now magically appear in my library. I shot RAW + jpeg since I bought the camera, and now I got it all...I am in for a bit of culling here, but I am very happy.
Plus, I think they did a ** good job because they look VERY close to the Leica jpgs (which are great) AND unlike some lesser RAW converters, the lens correction is applied beautifully. It was worth the wait.
PLUS, I now have a good place to put my HD movies from the camera as well.
THANKS APERTURE TEAM!
Note that since I shot RAW + jpg, it is obvious to me that the correction was applied since I have the jpg where the camera applies it internally to compare to. While there is some difference in color/exposure, etc. vs the jpg as is typical using different converters...the lens correction is absolute...meaning you could make the jpg copy semi-transparent and overlay it on the converted RAW, and everything aligns.
While I was as anxious as anyone to have Aperture 2 support this great camera, I did not want a partial solution, as others offered. Previously there were a number of other RAW converters that claimed support for DL4 and the LX3, but they did not do any correction and had a lot of distortion. I had written here that I assumed Apple wanted to either do the distortion conversion correctly or not at all, and I think Aperture 3 displays this.
Sincerely,
K.J. Doyle

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I am still unable to view images from this camera in Aperture.
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Steve and Brent,
Thank you for taking the time to post those links.
Steve, I had come across the topic you provided before I initially posted this thread.
Since I was looking specifically for the answer to the original question, regarding why 10.4.9 wasn't recognizing the DLUX-3, which j c swain kindly answered above, I didn't take note, nor care about, any of the other information.
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Leica D-Lux 3 RAWs

Unfortunately trying to import RAW files from Leica D-Lux 3 result in a "Unsupported Image Format"...
Any other noted this?

I found these detailed instructions on how to 'dupe' Aperture to recognising the leica Dlux 3 RAW files (pasted below along with the link to the site) . It was on on MacOShints.com. ... Has anyone done this and how well does it work ?
I havent tried it yet but Iimagin an alternative (maybe less risky) way to get around it is to convert the RAW files to DNG's using Adobe DNG converter once imported from the camera, and then import into Aperture. I'm about to try this - before messing around with the Aperture settings !
This could be further enhances by using the Automator Robot to automatically convert and delete old files on import from CD card. If anyone has already done this, could they possibly publish the automator file ? Otherwise, if i create one, i'll be sure to do so.
Good luch and keep us posted !!
How does everyone find the DLUX 3 anyway ? Mine's just arrived !!
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20061025124051903
Aperture only imports .DNG files made from raw files that were created by certain cameras. Newer cameras (like my Leica D-Lux 3) may not yet be supported by OS X. Other raw-capable cameras may not yet be supported either. This hint may work for many unsupported cameras.
Aperture .DNG importing and interpretation depends on a file called Raw.plist, which lives very deep in your System folder. This file contains information about how to treat the .DNG files based on which model of camera produced the raw file.
Here's how I tricked Aperture into handling my raw photos made by my unsupported Leica:
I downloaded the free Adobe DNG Converter app (ADC) from Adobe's website. Using Image Capture, I downloaded the .raw files from my camera into a folder (called RAWs) on my desktop. I created a new folder (DNGs) on the desktop, and then told ADC to convert all files in "RAWs" and put them in "DNGs". The settings for the converter (available in the ADC's preferences) were:
JPEG Preview->None
Compression(Lossless) checked
Image Conversion Method->Preserve Raw Image
Original Raw File->Embed Original Raw File->unchecked
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I started up my plist-editing application. You can use Property List Editor if you have it on your machine, I expect. I used PlistEdit Pro.
In the finder, I navigated to System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Raw.plist and copied (not moved) that file to the Desktop in case I made a mistake. I then opened the original file in its original location in PlistEdit Pro.
I found the entry most similar to the camera I have. In this case, there was a Property List called LEICA-DIGILUX 2, and the Value of that entry was Panasonic-DMC-LC1. This tells Aperture that when the camera that created the raw file is this LEICA model, treat it just like you do with that Panasonic model. The Panasonic has its own Property List with lots of data about how to interpret the raw data.
I duplicated that entry. I then edited the duplicate so the property list is called LEICA-D-LUX 3. You may need to experiment with that name, but the syntax seems to be MANUFACTURER-CAMERAMODEL. Look at the other entries for guidance; note that first hyphen seems to be mandatory. I left the reference to the Panasonic camera as it was.
I saved the edited Raw.plist file in its original location, closed all my apps, started up Aperture, and imported the DNGs without a hitch.
If your camera is totally different from all of the entries in the original Raw.plist file you may have difficulty. Your DNG files might look wretched in Aperture if you guess wrong about how the system should treat that raw data. In my case, I was lucky in that my Leica D-Lux 3 has very similar raw data to the Leica Digilux 2, which is similar to that Panasonic camera.
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Does anyone know whether, or when, Aperture will support the Leica Monochrom camera. Seems odd that it doesn't do so.
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Thanks!

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Why no support for the Leica M9 in LR 2.6 RC?

Hi - bemused that there's no support for the M9 in this release (especially as LR is bundled with the M9). Even more confusing as the Standard Adobe calibration profile for the M9 that comes with the LR3 Beta is pretty good (beats the embedded profile that comes with the Leica DNGs) - and this can be added to the LR2.5 profile library with a bit of copying and pasting.
I'd be grateful to hear from Adobe if there's any chance of a good M9 profile making it to the 2.6 final version. Seems a shame to miss this opportunity.
Thanks
Chris Tribble

Hello Chris,
thanks for the nice feedback.
For the moment, I will use LR for the fast preview of all images,
cataloging etc., and RawDeveloper for the fine tuning, as often as the
image permit it.
(sorry for my english!)
Lets hope that we will get through all that without loosing our
perfectly nice temper !
All the best to you,
Alain
Le 11 déc. 09 à 09:39, Chris_Tribble a écrit :
Alain - 1eme - je suis un particulier - aucun fonction chez Adobe.
Aussi -
je m'excuse d'avant pour mon Francais bottant et sans elegance! Je
n'ai
jamais fais des etuded en francais - et aussi mon clavier anglais
manquent
les diacritiques...
>
Quelque petit reponses.
>
>>>> First I have installed the 2.6 version, that is said to work
>>>> alongside the 2.5... but of course, it has replaced it. How to
>>>> reinstall the 2.5 alongside, hase they have the same name ?
>>>
>>> C'est pas la peine - 2.6 est meilleur - vous pouvez rester
>> avec ca...
>
>> ok, mais c'est tout de même juste le contraire de ce que
>> disent sur le site Adobe vos notes d'installation (rien de
>> très neuf non plus en cette matière, hélas, quant aux infos
>> approximatives ou manquantes d'Adobe)
>
CT: Pas vrais je crois - Version 3 beta peut co-exister - mais 2.6
doit
remplacer 2.5...
>
>>>> And then, I have tried to find a M9 profile, read your
>> posts, do my
>>>> job, install the beta 3.0, fond the "M9 Digital Camera Adobe
>>>> Standard.dcp", put a copy of that in any cameraRaw description
>>>> files... and so what ? In 2.6, I only have the choice between
>>>> "embeded" (=incorporé in french) and "Adobe standard" when
>> I select a
>>>> M9 dng file / but I've more choice when I select a M8 dng
>> file (ACR
>>>> 4.4, ACR 3.6, Adobe standard, Adobe standard beta 2,
>> camera standard,
>>>> camera standard beta 2).
>>>> 1. Do I miss something ?
>>>> 2. what should I do to find and use the M9 specific profile ?
>>>>
>>
>>>> Encore une fois - il n'y a pas de probleme...
>>> "Adobe Standard" marche tres bien...
>> moui... si vous le dites... mais il me convient assez mal, et
>> j'aimerais tout de même comprendre pourquoi je ne peux pas
>> charger un profil correspondant à mon M9... je ne comprends
>> pas non plus pourquoi il n'y a pas de profil par optique
>> développé par Leica... et en Suisse, personne de chez eux ne
>> peut répondre à ces questions... alors même que LR 2.5 est
>> livré en bundle avec le m9!
>
CT: Alors - Adobe Standard EST le profil developé par Adobe pour le
M9 - et
c'est le meme qu'on trouve dans LR 3 beta. Selon mon experience c'est
meilleur que le "embedded profile". Pas parfait, mais pas mal non
plus
Vous pouvez vous meme telecharger le DNG editor
(http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles).
>
>
>> je suis professionnel, et très loin d'être heureux avec LR...
>> (ni avec aucun raw developper, pour être franc, ni
>> captureOne, ni... encore que justement, RawDevelopper a des
>> qualités intéressantes - à côté de grande faiblesses... mais
>> c'est encore un autre sujet)
>>
>> mais j'ai bien l'intention de m'accrocher, ne serait-ce que
>> pour la puissance de gestion/catalogage et l'interface de
>> LR... quoi que je n'ai aucune confiance en son bricolage des
>> dng -> donc multiplier les backups des fichiers tels que
>> sortis du m9, etc... on dirait bien que malgré 15 ans
>> d'expérience, nous en soyons toujours au balbutiements du digital !
>>
>> C'est tout de même plus sérieux (du point de vue des
>> résultats) du côté de Leaf (j'utilise un L75 sur Alpa
>> 12SWA)... ça ressemble à quelque chose, mais en petit format,
>> après le m8, le m9 est vraiment encore loin du compte ! Et
>> leur développeur, bien sûr, ne développe... que leurs
>> fichiers propriétaires. Lorsque quelqu'un aura décidé dans
>> quelques années que leur format .mos est dépassé, mon travail
>> sera tout simplement perdu. Sauf à convertir en catastrophe
>> quelques dizaines ou centaines de milliers de fichiers ?
>> Encourageant, n'est-ce pas ?
>>
>>> By the way, I also had this blue pixels lines in the 2500iso
>>>>
>>>> files... anyway to save back the file without this bug ?
>>>
>>> Je ne vois pas cette image .... Peut etre vous pourriez
>> m'envoyer par
>>> email? (mailto:mailto:mailto:[email protected])
>> Je ne l'ai malheureusement pas avec moi, sur mon portable, et
>> n'y accéderai plus avant quelques jours...
>>
>> Leica Suisse (avec qui je suis en relation directe et qui a reçu ce
>> fichier) vient de m'appeler et ils reconnaissent - enfin - le
>> problème.
>> Mais ils ne savent toujours pas si et comment il vont le résoudre.
>> Rien avant l'année prochaine, quoi qu'il en soit, et ce sera
>> fixé, selon eux, soit :
>> - par un nouveau firmware (difficile à croire)
>> - par un passage de l'appareil entre leur mains, avec modif/
>> remplacement d'une partie du soft/hardware
>> - par un échange d'appareil (!!!) si c'est le capteur qui est
>> en cause (l'un de mes M8.2 avait été échangé de même à leur
>> frais après 3 mois, pour d'autres problèmes électroniques) Le
>> problème de ces lignes de pixels bleus sur certaines prises
>> de vue en haute sensibilité est largement débattu sur les
>> forums, et Leica vient de comprendre qu'il n'est pas
>> extérieur au M9, comme ils le disaient il n'y a pas si
>> longtemps... encore une petite bombe à leur actif !
>> Dite-moi si ça vous intéresse et je vous les ferai suivre...
>
CT: J'avais un tel probleme avec le M8.2 - chez le M9 pour le moment
ca
marche!
>>
>> Par ailleurs, ils viennent de me proposer de repasser toutes
>> mes optiques au banc (codées par leurs soins il y a moins
>> d'un an) pour les ajuster une nouvelle fois au mieux au m9...
>> là aussi, ils reconnaissent des failles techniques sérieuses
>> ! J'ai par exemple un summicron 35 asph parfait sur film et
>> sur m8, qui est... flou (sur les bords, et irrégulièrement)
>> sur mon m9 ! Interressant...
>>
CT: c'est vrais que les boittier numerique sont plus exigeant - je
conseil
un contact direct avec Leica a Solms.... Et aussi (si vous n'y etes
pas
inscrit deja) que vous faites appelle pour rejoindre le reseau Leica
Professional. Ca vaut la peine et augment le vitesse de reparation...
>
>>> Je vous conseiller aussi de visiter L-camera forum...
>>> (http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/
>>> ) Vous y trouverez des francophones la bas et il y a beaucoup de
>>> bonnes informations...
>> je connaissais, mais les questions en français trouvent
>> rarement de l'écho... et le niveau technique n'est
>> malheureusement pas très élevé, malgré la gentillesse des
>> interlocuteurs.
>>
>
Oui! MAIS j'ai appris des choses la bas ...
>
>>> Bon courage!
>>> Chris
>>
>> Il en faut, en effet...
>> merci en tout cas !
>> (à propos, quelle est votre fonction chez adobe ? Puis-je
>> reprendre contact avec vous lors de mes prochaines
>> découvertes ?) Amitiés, Alain
>>
Encore une fois - bon courage..
>
Dr Christopher Tribble
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EMAIL     || mailto:[email protected]
WEB     || www.ctribble.co.uk
>

Camera profiles in DNG from camera (Leica S2, M8)

Hi all,
I´m reviewing captures from the Leica S2, which is saving Raw in the DNG format after capture. There is only one camera profile in the DNG files ("embedded"). Compared to a JPEG (mode DNG+JPG for capture) of the same shot the color rendering with the embedded profile is more saturated and slightly shifted in the hues. Greens get an ugly plastic look.
I have captures with Leica M8, too. They have more camera profiles: Embedded, Adobe Standard, Camera Standard and ACR legacy (3.6, 4.4).
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Please can someone clarify this?
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Mike
((posted this yesterday in DNG forum too, but this forum seems to be more visited))

Jeff Schewe wrote:
As far as I can see, any support for the S2 raw files is preliminary (which means it's NOT officially supported with a full range of color profiles).
Jeff,
I´ve got shots from two S2 cameras and they are pre-production (in terms of firmware, Leica will update this).
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As far as I understand "embedded" means color rendering as supposed by the camera maker (in this case Leica) and "Adobe Standard" does mean an official camera profile from Adobe. "Embedded" is pretty close to the color rendering of the S2´s JPEGs.
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Hi, Aperture
I'm a Leica M9 camera owner, and I found that in Apple Aperture 3, I cannot see the "aperture" value from pictures taken from Leica M9, also, the "lenses" information not available in the "Metadata" tab.
I attached a screen shot of my Aperture window and hope Apple guys could consider fix it. I can provide samples DNG or JPEG files from this camera, if needed.
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I created my first profile tonight, but with some problems.
Leica lenses are completely manual, so the f/Stop information is estimated in DNG file. Unfortunately, even though I used one f/Stop for my set-of-nine photos, the information in the DNG file estimated that I had used three different f/Stops.
I wish I could for overide the automatic grouping in Adobe Lens Profile Creater, and manually specify the the f/Stop.
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I have recently imported a series of DNG files from a Leica M9 into Aperture. I receive a message that these are in an "unsupported image format." Has anyone had and resolved this problem.
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HI William, Thank you fro your quick reply. Please see the answer to your questions below:
Have you tried quitting and restarting Aperture? YES If you try and view one of the files via double clicking in the Finder, does it work OK? NO
How are you importing them? Are you using a CF card reader, or directly via USB connection to the camera? SD reader built into my MacBook Pro with Retina display.
Have you previously used RAW files from the M9 with success, or is this the first time you've imported M9 photos?
Yes, this has worked fine in the past. The photos are also not readable by Lightroom nor do DNG to DNG conversions via Adobe work. I suspect there might be a formatting issue with the SD Card. I will reformat and see if that helps on new images. It will be ashame to lose the old images.
-George

Leica, Noctilux 50mm f/0.95

I am using Lightroom version 4.4 on a Mac OS X 10.7.5.
When performing a search for pictures based on the Aperture size as the criterion, the aperture sizes that are displayed by Lightroom version 4.4 are not correct for the Noctilux 50mm f/0.95 lens.
Does anyone have the same problem? Is there a solution to the issue?

To answer my own question, the M9 uses an exposure reading external to the lens to compare with the light coming through the lens to estimate the aperture-setting of the lens:
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/111917-f-stop-shift.html#post1184 234
"The reported f/stops in the M9 EXIF are a guesstimate based on comparing the scene illumination as read by the little blue dot above the Leica logo with the ttl illumination as read by the internal meter..."
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2853117#forum-post-36073766
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Leica, Aperture & f/stop info

As many of you know, and has been well documented on this discussion board: When impporting Leica DNG files into Aperture: the f/stop and detailed lens info is not displayed by Aperture.
A work around which adds one step: Initially import the photos into either Adobe Photoshop or Adobe Lightroom-- do nothing to them and then export them as DNG files...effectively nothing has changed. Then import them directly into Aperture:

I think I understand the questions being asked here, but please forgive me if not. Certainly I can talk about the M9.
With the Leica M system of cameras there is no mechanical or electronic connection between the lens and the body that transfers information about the lens' aperture setting. That is, the camera does not know what the lens is set to and so does not have metadata for aperture, f-stop, whatever. As such, there is no f-stop metadata for software like Aperture to work with.
The thing to be aware of is that the Leica rangefinder camera concept dates from the 1920s, revamped into the current system in the 1950s, with digital capability added in the 2000s. Think of an M9 as a box with a very nice sensor to which a long history of very nice lenses can be attached and you've got it. The latest lenses can tell the M9 camera what they are (via a physical code engraved on the lens' bayonet mount which is read by the camera) but cannot transfer f-stop metadata. There is none to transfer and no means to transfer it if there was. They are purely mechanical lenses that make superb images.
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