Leica X Vario DNG files support @aperture?

Aperture's camera support comes from the OS. Does not look like the Leica X Vario is currently suppored. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5371.
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DNG file support - limitations?

Several of us who use the Epson R-D 1 camera (an interchangeable-lens digital rangefinder camera similar to a Leica M-series film cameras) are trying to determine whether there's any way to use Aperture to manage the raw files this camera produces.
I normally convert my R-D 1 raw files to Adobe DNG format using DNG Converter, and Aperture's specs page says it supports the DNG format. However, a somewhat confusing footnote states:
"1. DNG files must be generated by the Adobe DNG Converter, with the "Convert to Linear Image" option turned off, and created from RAW formats that are otherwise already supported by Mac OS X 10.4.3 or later."
Can anyone pin down what Apple means by "otherwise already supported"? Epson .ERF raw files certainly are supported to the extent that the OS can store, manage and copy them... what else might they mean?
If anyone would be willing to download an R-D 1-sourced DNG file to test its compatibility with Aperture, I'd be happy to make one available in my iDisk public folder.

Several of us who use the Epson R-D 1 camera (an
interchangeable-lens digital rangefinder camera
similar to a Leica M-series film cameras) are trying
to determine whether there's any way to use Aperture
to manage the raw files this camera produces.
<...>
"1. DNG files must be generated by the Adobe DNG
Converter, with the "Convert to Linear Image" option
turned off, and created from RAW formats that are
otherwise already supported by Mac OS X 10.4.3 or
later."
Can anyone pin down what Apple means by "otherwise
already supported"? Epson .ERF raw files certainly
are supported to the extent that the OS can store,
manage and copy them... what else might they mean?
<...>
It means that the built in RAW image support from the OS can read them - in other words, can you open the image in preview? If not, it's definatley not going to work in Aperture or iPhoto. If you can't use the RAW file directly in Aperture you can't read the DNG made from it either.
Welcome to the reality of DNG, many applications that support DNG work this way.
The bummer is really that it doesn't support that linear DNG option, if it only supported that and no other type of DNG then you could use that (though then it's more like a TIFF than a RAW image).
You can do what I do and just generate TIFF files from your favorite RAW converter to use within Aperture.

Importing DNG files to Aperture 2.1.4

Hi,
I am very new to RAW image files and using aperture. I want to be able to take RAW image pictures and make use of them on aperture and so I have added CHDK on my canon ixus70. I know this topic has come up before but I can't seem to add to those.
Problem I am having is that once the pictures have been taken Aperture doesn't seem to support them. I have tried to convert the .CRW files using dng4ps2 which creates .DNG files (these were blank black files in aperture) and then converted those using adobe dng converter (these imported, but then said that they are unsupported by aperture).
I want to use Aperture as it has been the most recommended photography software, unless experts here can state otherwise.
Any help or guidance would be much appreciated.
S

I had a similar problem with my Canon SD1100 IS. I was converting the .CRW file to .DNG using DNG4PS2, compiled on Snow Leopard, then converting to Adobe DNG with Adobe's DNG converter. By generating the .DNG file right on the camera, as described here:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/canonpowershots5is/discuss/72157610078065768
I was able to use the newest version of Adobe's DNG converter on the camera's DNG files and then import into Aperture. An older version of the DNG converter did not work. You will need to run a program on windows to generate a badpixel file per the instructions. Hopefully this works for you.

Beginner question about RAW/DNG files and Aperture + Adove

I used to use Microsoft Expression Media. When I would edit a .DNG file in Photoshop and update the sidecar or JPEG preview, EM would show the .DNG with the new adjusted preview in its catalog.
I noticed Aperture 3.0 doesn't read these adjustments from my .DNG files. Is there a way to get Aperture to properly read my .DNG files?
Conversely, when I make RAW edits in Aperture, can I view these on the .DNG master in Photoshop? How?

Adrian:
I have been using DxO Optics Pro in conjunction with Aperture. The easiest workflow that I have found is to run the images through DxO before bringing them into Aperture. I have DxO export the converted images as 8-bit TIFFs. (Sixteen-bit TIFFs are really big.) I, then, import the TIFFs into Aperture. There are two disadvantages to this approach: I do not get to bring the original RAW file into Aperture and using DxO on all images, even those that turn out to be rejects, takes a lot of time.
I have also played around with adding images to Aperture, exporting masters before doing any Aperture image manipulation, running the exported images through DxO, exporting the converted images as 8-bit TIFFs and reimporting the TIFFs into Aperture. This can be done without Catapult. I think the advantage of Catapult is that it will automatically stack your processed TIFFs with the original RAW files in Aperture. The advantage of this approach is that I can use Aperture to decide which images I want to process in DxO. Remember that DxO will not see any work that you have done on the image in Aperture; this is why I do my DxO work before doing any Aperture manipulations.

Adobe DNG files not supported in Aperture 3.1.2?

Those of you that follow this forum may have read my previous post - https://discussions.apple.com/message/15009745#15009745 - about RAW files from my old Windows machine whice look fine in iPhoto, but when I imported my iPhoto library into Aperture 3 they have this red haze over them like a flash coloured gel.
As I said, the older files came from my old Windows machine, where they had been stored in Photoshop Elements, and in the past I had converted them from Canon's .CRW file format to Adobe's .DNG format. I've just checked in Aperture, and it is indeed only these which are washed out - all of the Canon .CRW files look fine, it's the Adobe .DNG files which are a mess. I'll hazard a guess that Aperture doesn't support the Adobe .DNG format I have and that is the issue, but why they are supported in iPhoto and no the professional app I can't imagine. A call to Apple tomorrow morning is in order to sort this one out I think unless any of this excellent forum's followers can offer help. Has anyone had a similar experience importing .DNG files into Aperture 3? I should add that they bad either form the original import from iPhoto, or directly importing into Aperture.
Thanks James.

Hi Bob, here's a quote from the link Stephen provided:
"Adobe Camera RAW converted DNGs won’t work because the fine print of Apple’s DNG support shows that it only works with unconverted DNGs—and the new lensdata support of Adobe’s DNG specification generates converted DNGs. While, Adobe may disagree with me (and there is a good reason why they should), this is just the sort of moving-target that causes me to argue against converting to Adobe DNGs."
As I said in the post this provides some useful background information, but I can't imagine that iPhoto uses a better DNG converter than Aperture (although perhaps older, so maybe that's why I can see the files okay in iPhto and not Aperture?). As for my OS, it's the latest version, I've done two software update checks this week so would for sure have run that when it came around, but I appreciate yours and others thinking on this problem of mine.

Aperture 3 will not read LX3 .dng files

I was a Lightroom user for the past several years, but have decided to give Aperture a try. I converted files from my Panasonic Lumix LX-3, Canon 5D Mark II, and Canon s90IS to .dng when they were imported into Lightroom. I no longer have the original RAW files.
I have imported these .dng files into Aperture 3. The two sets of Canon files import properly and our easily edited. The .dng files from the Panasonic Lumix LX3 do not import properly. I get the "unsupported image format" message on the thumbnail.
I have installed the latest Apple update that allows for support of the LX3.
This has happened on both my Mac Pro and Macbook Pro.
Is anyone else experiencing a similar issue?
Thanks,
Fred
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Hi Fred. Saw your post about this on dpreview, too. I'll repost my response here for other Apple folk.
I'm seeing this with DNGs from my G1, too. The problem seems to be that Aperture 3 lacks support for lens corrections in DNG.
It is probably not a problem with Linear DNGs -- though you'd have to check yours. Adobe forced Linear DNGs on G1 and LX3 users for only one version of DNG converter (5.4, if I remember right). After that, they figured out how to do lens correction inside regular raw DNGs -- the kind that Aperture supports.
Except that the lens correction in those DNGs seems to confuse Aperture 3. It's odd because for the G1 and LX-3, Aperture supports those same corrections in the native RW2 format. Let's hope it's a bug that the same corrections don't work in DNG.
In the meantime, there are a couple of options:
1. Wait for RW2 support. For the GF1, this is your best choice. And save those RW2 files! Extract your original RW2 files from the DNGs or pull them from a backup (you did embed the the RW2, right?). If you've shot with Panasonic micro 4/3 lenses, this is your best option.
2. If your DNGs were shot with legacy lenses, there is a good work-around. Only native Panasonic (and maybe Olympus) micro 4/3 lenses add the lens metadata. If you don't have that, the only thing keeping Aperture from recognizing your photos is the camera model name embedded in the DNGs. You can use something like exiftool to change it to one that doesn't do lens correction. Here's what I use to get my G1's legacy lens DNGs to work in Aperture 3. (This is not terribly dangerous, as exiftool can just as easily undo this change.)
exiftool -Model=DMC-L10 blah.dng
3. If your DNGs do have lens correction (as they must with the LX3) you could use a tool like DNGSanitize http://punainenkala.livejournal.com/588.html, which purports to strip the lens correction from the DNGs. This is a last-resort sort of thing to do, you will lose that lens correction data. You would probably also have to change the camera model name, as in option 2 (try DMC-FZ50 for the LX3). Keep backups. And, really, don't do this -- wait until the next release of Aperture when we'll find out if Apple intends to fix DNG support.
Whatever you do, test this with your DNGs -- especially if you're trying option 2 or (especially) 3. Just because option 2 works for me, that doesn't mean it will for you. And I've not had to try option 3. And pray you don't have linear DNGs, as only Adobe can help you then.
I can't believe that Apple would mess up DNG support this badly on purpose. In the meantime, please file a bug report to let Apple know that losing DNG support for these cameras is a big deal. You can do this from inside Aperture itself. Choose Aperture > Provide Aperture Feedback from the menu.
Here are the gory details, with links to helpful resources -- http://elstudio.us/notes-on-aperture-3-and-panasonic-gf1-rw2-and
Good luck! And let us know how it works out.

Import DNG files processed in Bridge CS3

I have imported 500 DNG files that have had some adjustments made to them in Adobe Bridge CS3. Aperture 2 does not seem to recognise the RAW adjustments that have been made in Bridge. I copied some of the DNG files to a DVD and then opened the DVD on another computer that has Bridge and the adjustments stick with the DNG file. How can you import DNG files into Aperture 2 that have been processed in Bridge without having to make the adjustments again?

{quote:title=Mark P A wrote:}How can you import DNG files into Aperture 2 that have been processed in Bridge without having to make the adjustments again?{quote}
You can't. The raw conversion made by ACR can not be read by Aperture and vice versa. The only reason you can read the settings in the DNG- file on another computer with ACR is that the sidecar file is embedded in the DNG. If you had not converted to DNG, then you had to export the XML- sidecar file as well if you wanted ACR on the other computer read the settings made to the raw file.
Regards
Paul K

Where is Aperture support for raw files from Leica X Vario?

Where is Aperture support for raw files from Leica X Vario?

It doesn't appear to exist, at this time:
http://www.apple.com/aperture/specs/raw.html

Why does Aperture not support all DNG files?

I have a Leica D-LUX 2 and an Epson RD-1. Both of these cameras create RAW files which are not supported by Apple. Why should the files, when converted to DNG, still require RAW support to be utilized. I understand the wrapper concept, but is this not the idea of DNG. What about cameras that create a DNG file, rather than RAW (i.e. the new Leica M8).
Thanks,
Ken

Hi Kenneth,
You're missing the point Karl is making. RAW data is (in essence) proprietary to the camera. All DNG does is essentially encapsulate that proprietary data in a standard format. The data is still proprietary whether DNG or RAW.
By proprietary I mean that the sensor array and sensitivity to light, tonal correction across the gamut all are understood by the camera manufacturer and held as parameters (data) in the RAW or DNG file. It requires specific knowledge to interpret this data into a renderable image. Until such time as camera manufacturers agree that 1 = 1 and 2 = 2, we are stuck with this issue (and ALL our concern of x years from now when nobody supports what is our latest and greatest camera). An API included in Aperture (actually OS X) would at least allow camera manufacturers to write their RAW conversion algorithms and take Apple out of the loop.... as well as take dependence on OS X releases out of the loop too!
Hope this clarifies.
G.

Leica M9 and Aperture3 not showing camera aperture setting when import DNG files. Shutter speed and ISO are indicated, but not aperture. When I export and open in Adobe Camera Raw aperture setting is displayed.

Does any one have a suggestion as to how to get A3 to show the camera aperture setting on Leica M9 DNG files?

You will want to read this thread in its entirety.
The short story (as I understand it) is that the M9 body receives no information about aperture from attached lenses. It is able to derive an estimate of the aperture, though, and it lists this derived number in the metadata field "Approximate F-stop" (not the exact field name). Aperture (the program) does not report the contents of this proprietary field.

After upgrading to mountain lion aperture 3.3 no longer recognizes DNG files. Is this going to get fixed?

After upgrading to aperture 3.3 on mountain lion aperture no longer recognizes DNG files.
I have many DNG files already in my library. Aperture shows the thumbnail and will briefly flash what I think is the preview of the file but quickly changes to a gray triangle saying "unsupported image format". After which the thumbnail is replaced with an all black thumbnail.
Needless to say this is extremely disconcerting. I am concerned that aperture is not only refusing to display the existing DNG files but is also simultaneously corrupting the library and destroying my existing images.
fwiw, these DNG files were generated with a leica.
I have not attempted to import DNG images into my aperture library but I assume that would not go well.

Susan,
if it is the native raw format, that no longer is recognized, then try, if registering the CoreTypes.bundle with the OS again will help. This will tell MacOS which raw format types (and other media types) are supported.
Open a Terminal window and paste following line into the window, hit return. This is one very long line:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchSe rvices.framework/Versions/A/Support/lsregister -R /System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Library
Regards
Léonie
P.S: Some browsers cause a blank to be inserted between /Frameworks/LaunchSe rvices.framework/Versions
But it is "LaunchServices.framework", without blank. All in one line - the only blanks are needed between "lsregister" and "-R" and after "-R" .

Raw Support for Leica X Vario Camera?

Is There Raw (DNG) support a Leica X Vario camera? I've currently dowloaded LR 5.7 and tried tio import two DNG files from the camera and the software won't read them. any idea about what is going on.
Need help
Regards

Not yet: https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html
5.7 has added some Leicas. You may have to wait for the next release.
Nobody here knows when the next release is due.

Leica M8 File Support Gone?

I've been using Aperture on my new iMac for a couple of weeks now with my Leica M8 - all was working wonderfully until today when I imported a card of M8 images into Aperture and all I get is the "red screen of death" telling me the file format for my camera is now suddenly unsupported. I shoot in RAW and never had this issue since Apple's RAW update earlier this summer.
The only thing that I've changed on my computer is I inadvertently allowed a software update of Adobe Camera Raw (and other CS 3 components) via Adobe Updater for CS3. Anyone else use a camera that they lost file support in Aperture for? I looked for a download of Apple's freshest RAW update but it appears that the Leica definitions were part of a Camera RAW update this summer that was bundled with an OS X update, so no download so far for just a download of the newest Apple RAW file support. Ideally I'd love to re-apply a RAW file support update and get my M8 back in the good graces of Aperture.
Anyone else run into a similar issue with their camera? Any ideas to solve this?
With thanks..
Roger

It is possible that the raw.plist has become corrupted, or the M8 has somehow screwed the writing to the exif camera make and model tag in the DNG.
A couple of things you can do to check this is
1. Copy a dng to your desktop and right click (ctrl click) the dng and select get info. It should show Leica Camera AG in the Device Make and M8 Digital Camera in the Device Model. If that's the case then we need to check further into the Raw.plist entries.
2. The raw.plist resides in
System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Im ageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources.
You can use an editor such as PlistEdit Pro to view and edit such a file. It is a system file and as such is locked but we can open it in plistedit pro just to check the entry for the M8 is intact.
PlistEdit Pro is available as a trial download with full functionality. Open raw.plist and scroll down to find Leica Camera AG-M8 Digital Camera. It should show up as a dictionary entry with 28 key/value pairs. If this entry is missing, perhaps this is where your problem lies.
Please report back. Further reading about hacking the raw.plist and M8 can be found on
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/30398-m8-apple-aperture -resource-info.html.
Let me know if you still have problems.

Leica X1 DNG files not viewable thumbnails in Media Expression

Hi-
I just bought a Leica X1 which shoots raw in DNG format but the raw DNG files it creates to not display thumbnails in Media Expression (formerly a micorsoft product, now Phase one).
I am running mac OS X 10.6.4
One "solution" offered in the Leica forum was to run the Leica DNG file in DNG converter... I did and it worked but that is a really really clumsy solution to what I feel should not be a problem.... and renaming and deleting original files etc it a real PITA if you shoot any number of photos.
I know that Nikon had issues with new versions of NEF files which had something to do with "header changes" in the NEF file before ACR could decode them, and I'm wondering if there is some similar issue with DNG that I am not aware of.
Any information would greatly be appreciated.
cheers,
tom

the "appear for a moment" is probably Aperture showing the preview image in the .raw file, before deciding that it can't handle the raw image data.
(If it is this, then odds are Finder will show the images but Preview.app will also fail to.)
Clearly MacOS understands the .raw file format, but thinks that it doesn't have support for however your camera identifies itself in the EXIF data. Modifying the Raw.plist is the way to try, for now.

Did Apple remove support for DNG files generated out of Capture One?

I use Capture One to convert my Leica Dlux-4 RAW files into DNG format and then use Aperture2.1.4 as my photo processing tool.
After I ran the latest OS update - Aperture gives a "Unsupported file format" message for all the DNG files.
Is it possible that Apple removes support for photo formats in the OS updates?
Anyone encountered the same issue and found a solution?
Thx

Go in the adjustment tab, and the first thing you'll see under the histogram is "Raw fine tuning". By default, "2.0" is selected. When importing DNG, you can switch it to "2.0 DNG" this is used to read DNGs from cameras Aperture doesn't support.
Maybe the update made it go back to its default "2.0" while before you where on "2.0 DNG". If I'm right, setting it to "2.0 DNG" will fix the problem.
P.S. sorry if I said "raw precision" instead of "Raw fine tuning" in the first place. My Aperture is in French and the name in French is "Réglage de précision raw" and I did a bad translation.
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Leica X Vario DNG files support @aperture?

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