Leopard installation hard drive issues

I recently bought a iBook G4 (2005 model) on eBay under the impression it was just missing an OS. Armed with a copy of Leopard (yes I bought it ) I tried to boot it up for the first time.
The first time I was faced with the Open Firmware screen, and errors that seemed consistnat with a faulty airport connection. I took it all apart and removed the airport card, then while booting I pressed Option to get the list of boot options. Booted to the Leopard DVD and after a disk check it seemed like it was working fine.
However just as it was about to begin the actual install process it cacked out with a massive Installation Failed! message. The install log said the error "Could not unmount" was to be blamed. Tried using the disk utility to verify the drives but it spent ages doing nothing. Repair wouldnt work and neither would erase, they gave me the same issue.
So that was it for the night. Gave up to try another day. Next morning trying to do the same thing after changing nothing, I was faced with the "You must restart your computer" message just after the language select screen on the install DVD. Why did this suddently change?
Took the harddrive out to check the connection was ok, seemed fine so put it back (didnt get the chance to plug it into my pc like I hoped, was missing the right adapter). Now with everything back in place, if I press Option on boot I dont even get a list of harddrives/cd drives anymore... just the two arrows and other than that a blank screen.
If I try to hold C while I boot to go straight to the disk then it shows the white loading page with the apple logo, but after an hour it hadnt moved on from there. The whole time the hard drive is making a loud clicking noise.
It seems each move I make I go backwards a little. Who has some suggestions that dont involve paying a spotty berk in the local shop $300 just so he can crack open Google, find this support post and fix it for me at a profit
I believe the HDD may be fried, but dont know how to check. It seemed to recognize it in the Disk Utility the time I got that far, but dont know why it no longer recognizes it.
Message was edited by: pjsturgeon

For us it was Versions cannot be switched off (decreases security).  No "Save As" in many Apps, no Bounce in Mail.  10.7 felt “dumbed down” to us.  We will try later, (10.8 maybe).
This is what we did in our office, from Kappy:
To switch from Lion to Snow Leopard:
1.  Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button.  When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area.  If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing.  SMART info will not be reported  on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Quit DU and return to the installer. Install Snow Leopard.
This will erase the whole drive so be sure to backup your files if you don't have a backup already. If you have performed a TM backup using Lion be aware that you cannot restore from that backup in Snow Leopard (see below.) I suggest you make a separate backup using Carbon Copy Cloner 3.4.1.
If you have Snow Leopard Time Machine backups, do a full system restore per #14 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions.  If you have subsequent backups from Lion, you can restore newer items selectively, via the "Star Wars" display, per #15 there, but be careful; some Snow Leopard apps may not work with the Lion files.

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    This morning, I was able to boot up the computer normally, but it randomly froze/locked-up, forcing me to restart and the same issues would occur. I performed all of the normal housekeeping chores. I verified/repaired the disk through Disk Utility (when I could boot from it), also through booting into safe mode (which performed successfully), resetting the PRAM, disconnecting all peripherals, and running Disk Utility through the OS X install disk.
    I spoke with AppleCare on and off throughout the day. 2 representatives I spoke with seemed to believe it was some sort of directory corruption. So we erased the HD through the OS X install disk and reinstalled Snow Leopard. I restored everything from the latest Time Machine backup, and everything appeared fine.
    A few hours ago, upon waking up the computer from sleep, it froze up with the spinning beach ball, forcing me to hard reset. It then booted onto the external HD again. I immediately called AppleCare and the representative said it seems like it's on its way out. I agreed, and we scheduled an appointment at an Apple store. I wanted to know the procedure because, like most people, I absolutely cannot live without the computer for long. I'm a freelance web designer and I need it ASAP. She got me the numbers for a few Authorized Apple Service Providers in my area, and I will be contacting them in the morning because she said that is the quicker path.
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    Side note: I turned it on about an hour ago while holding the option key, and the main, internal HD did indeed show up. Is this stuff normal (the back and forth mounting/booting and then not)?
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    First, select the internal drive in the sidebar and right (control) click on it. Select Information from the menu. Check the S.M.A.R.T status. It should say Verified.
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    If it completes successfully, you should try starting up from the installation disc and running another standard installation in it. +Zero Out Data+ will also map out bad sectors, so if the numbers were manageable, it is possible that the drive will now work more reliably. But you may not want to trust it completely (do more backups).
    Since it sounds like the iMac runs reliably off your clone, I think the problem is related to the internal drive.

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