Leopard, Intel-Mac, OS 9

Is it possible to install OS 9 Classic on an intel mac that has Leopard installed on it as the OS?
If so, how do I do it?
Thanks.

Yes, if you set up SheepShaver.
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Bridge 1.0.4 update fails on Leopard (Intel mac)

Howdy! I just installed Photoshop CS2 on a new Macbook Pro running Leopard, and then downloaded the Bridge 1.0.3 and 1.0.4 updates. The 1.0.3 update appears to install correctly, and when I bring up Bridge it says it's 1.0.3. But the 1.0.4 update won't install, claiming that 1.0.3 isn't installed.
Any ideas? (Other than the obvious one of upgrading to CS3?)
Bridge is fully updated to 1.0.4 on my old Powerbook; can I reasonably drag the Bridge application over to the new laptop and get 1.0.4 that way?

I had a similar problem updating PSE 4.0.1. You might get it to work if you open the Bridge Plug Ins file and instal the Adobe 4.3.1 Adobe Camera Raw file in it. Then try to run the Bridge 1.0.4 Update, downloaded from the Adobe website, not from within Bridge. Good Luck
P.S.No one at Adobe could explain the problems I was having with my update, but I did get it to work in 10.5.2.

Upgrade from Tiger Intel Mac XServe to Leopard Intel Mac XServe

Hi,
I would like to find out whether if i have created existing LDAP users, network shared drives hosted on XServe Raid, what are the measures to be taken before performing an upgrade? Would appreciate if anyone could help me.
Thank you!
Cheers,
Stephanie

Hi Stephanie
In 'theory' there should not be a problem.
However as already stated I've tried this at a number of sites and its been a problem every time. Others on the forum have found this too. I think its mainly because of issues with DNS and the config files used. Under Tiger these were /etc/named.conf and /var/named. Under Leopard its slightly different. See:
http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=20071031195155456&query=Leopard%2BDNS
I'v tried numerous things that ultimately only a clean install would solve. I hope ou have prepared your 'ground' well as you may end up doing this regardless of what you decide.
How do I backup all user's home directories?
There should be no need to do this if home directories are not stored on the system drive. Although its always a good idea to have backups of as much as possible - just in case.
How do I backup the entire LDAP database?
Server Admin > Open Directory > Settings > Archive
The LDAP database contains information regardiing all users, groups, machines, UIDs, GUIDs, MCX and passwords amongst other things. Home directories are not stored in the LDAP database.
Is there a possibility that all LDAP users and password might not be able to migrate over to the new leopard OS?
Provided you keep everything the same in terms of DNS, IP address, hostname etc then it should be OK. Although you never know? Its always a good idea to have a fallback position just in case. If you have the facility/luxury of using a test server first then use it. It could save you a lot of heartache/hassle/time later on.
Follow the advice I've given and you should be OK regarding home directories. Basically it boils down to this. Before upgrading or clean installing back up all home directories. Un-automount and un-share the folder used for home directory creation and automounting. Archive the LDAP database and on top of that export all Users and Groups as an extra safeguard.
If the folder used for home folders is on an external drive or another internal drive you should be OK in simply unsharing it.
Will there be any compatibility issues to access the shared folder from Tiger OS client computer?
In my experience I have not seen this. Ideally you should try and have everyone on the same OS.
What I have found is if your environment varies slightly from the 'Apple standard model' then you will in all likelihood have problems. Your mileage may. This is something I think some people who post on these forums fail to realize? It is understandable though as most most people's requirements or environments do not 'conform' to that standard - although it is hard to figure out what that standard is sometimes as the documentation is - shall we say - incomplete.
In which case you are (apart from online resources) generally on your own.
Tony

Upgrading from Tiger Intel Mac XServe to Leopard

Hi,
I would like to find out whether if i have existing shared folders and users, when upgrading from Tiger to Leopard Intel Mac XServe, will there be any problem? Do i need to backup any database or files? I would appreciate if anyone could help me.
Thank you!
Cheers,
Stephanie

Server forum is here:
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=96
Would you ever upgrade or install patches even, and not first make a backup?
How do you plan to do the upgrade? over top of Tiger, without backup first?

Can't print from Intel Mac w/Snow Leopard to HP 2600

Can't print from Intel Mac w/Snow Leopard to HP 2600. Upgraded from OS 10.4 and printer showed on printer list along with an Epson scanner. but continually shows printer as offline. I finally deleted the HP Color Laserjet 2600n from the printer list. When I attempted to re-install it, it doesn't find the printer at all. I haven't attempted to use the scanner. I also went to HP and downloaded the driver, no luck. I've restarted the computer multiple times, tried it with the printer on, and printer off, as well as pulled the usb cable in and out both ends. No error message on the printer display and it gpes through normal warmup until it shows the green light. I run software update and it shows no updates needed. Help!

Go down a few more posts to the question about the C7180. Answer:
"Re: iPhoto 08 + HP Photosmart C7180
Posted: Aug 19, 2007 1:26 PM in response to: Daniel_D
When you press print the first window is pretty basic.
When you select print on that the next window should have an advanced option.
Click that and see if any of the options in the 3rd dropdown box allow you to specify the 'paper tray'.
AC "
In this new windaow, click "advanced", go to "paper type/quality" and choose " best" and a photo paper. Then you will be able to choose a paper source (photo tray).
Once you have these settings, under presets do "save as", and you can choose the preset instead of going to advanced.
If you have the latest software and drivers downloaded from HP, this will work.
Scott

Does Photoshop Elements 4 function in Leopard on Intel Mac?

I am aware that it is not at all supported by Adobe, but has anyone been successfully using Photoshop Elements 4 on Leopard and Intel macs of any sort?
thank you

I had PE4 installed and it was painfully slow and laggy that's why I tried pixelmator and I was so surprised at how wonderful it was.
mcgrover wrote:
I'm repeating a little from above, but at the Apple store they told me PE4 was the latest and most compatible, but when I called Adobe support, the Adobe guy told me there were compatibility issues with PE4 and Leopard, though note that some posters here seem OK with 4 and Leopard. I suggest talking to Adobe support, but they may tell you PE6 is the fix for Leopard, in which case why does 4 work with Leopard? When I told the Apple store that Adobe said that 4 had problems with Leopard, Apple said that Adobe never communicated that to them. I have no more to offer as I don't have 4 to try it. I can say that 2 is dead in the water. Still looking at Pixelator.

Need help installing snow leopard on mac mini 10.5.8 intel based

I need help need help installing snow leopard on mac mini 10.5.8 intel based so if u kno how pls message me thanks
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You need to purchase the upgrade disk (it is a DVD). Then just put it in and run the installer. When it was first released it was $29 USD, do not know if the price has changed or not.
The usual precautions about backing up your data apply. In fact I would recommend either making a Disk Image of your current boot drive or using something like Carbon Copy Cloner to copy it to an external drive. I upgraded 5 machines from Leopard to Snow Leopard without any issues, but better to be safe than sorry.

Consequences of installing G5 Leopard on Intel Mac?

I bought an Intel iMac off of eBay, and it came shipped with OS X 10.4. I had a non-retail replacement DVD of 10.5 from when I had an AppleCare problem with my iMac G5, so I tried to use that disc to upgrade my OS. It never worked correctly, and on the Apple forums I was told that the replacement DVD would be hardware-specific and not function.
However, a new phenomenon has occurred.. If I completely install Tiger with the hardware-specific discs that came with my intel Mac, and then simply upgrade to Leopard- the install succeeds and the computer is ESSENTIALLY functional.
It's not perfect though. What I've observed is that (today was the 2nd time this has happened) after a couple days of untinterrupted use (including powering down/up) and having a seemingly functional iMac-- everything goes very wrong. The computer slows down to a crawl, so I leave it alone; then when the beachball goes away, I try to click something. No matter what App I choose, it will freeze up once it begins, and everything I click suddenly stops working.
So do you think this is a consequence of installing a leopard disc with G5 architecture, or that these symptoms are indicative of something wrong with the iMac itself (possibly bad RAM?). What seems strange is the install does succeed with the upgrade, and the computer works great for a good while- and then suddenly stops. One thing that always confuses/annoys me is when computers aren't consistent... I mean, theyre computers!
Please share your thoughts, thank you!

In short: A PPC Mac cannot boot an Intel version of OS X and vice-versa. You will need a full retail version of Leopard that can install either the PPC or the Intel version of OS X. Or as you have discovered your Upgrade disc will install an Intel upgrade to an Intel version of Tiger or a PPC upgrade to a PPC version of Tiger, but it will not performa a full Erase and Install.
As for migrating from a G5 to an Intel Mac see the following:
A Basic Guide for Migrating to Intel-Macs
If you are migrating a PowerPC system (G3, G4, or G5) to an Intel-Mac be careful what you migrate. Keep in mind that some items that may get transferred will not work on Intel machines and may end up causing your computer's operating system to malfunction.
Rosetta supports "software that runs on the PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor that are built for Mac OS X". This excludes the items that are not universal binaries or simply will not work in Rosetta:
Classic Environment, and subsequently any Mac OS 9 or earlier applications
Screensavers written for the PowerPC
System Preference add-ons
All Unsanity Haxies
Browser and other plug-ins
Contextual Menu Items
Applications which specifically require the PowerPC G5
Kernel extensions
Java applications with JNI (PowerPC) libraries
See also What Can Be Translated by Rosetta.
In addition to the above you could also have problems with migrated cache files and/or cache files containing code that is incompatible.
If you migrate a user folder that contains any of these items, you may find that your Intel-Mac is malfunctioning. It would be wise to take care when migrating your systems from a PowerPC platform to an Intel-Mac platform to assure that you do not migrate these incompatible items.
If you have problems with applications not working, then completely uninstall said application and reinstall it from scratch. Take great care with Java applications and Java-based Peer-to-Peer applications. Many Java apps will not work on Intel-Macs as they are currently compiled. As of this time Limewire, Cabos, and Acquisition are available as universal binaries. Do not install browser plug-ins such as Flash or Shockwave from downloaded installers unless they are universal binaries. The version of OS X installed on your Intel-Mac comes with special compatible versions of Flash and Shockwave plug-ins for use with your browser.
The same problem will exist for any hardware drivers such as mouse software unless the drivers have been compiled as universal binaries. For third-party mice the current choices are USB Overdrive or SteerMouse. Contact the developer or manufacturer of your third-party mouse software to find out when a universal binary version will be available.
Also be careful with some backup utilities and third-party disk repair utilities. Disk Warrior 4.1, TechTool Pro 4.6.1, SuperDuper 2.5, and Drive Genius 2.0.2 work properly on Intel-Macs with Leopard. The same caution may apply to the many "maintenance" utilities that have not yet been converted to universal binaries. Leopard Cache Cleaner, Onyx, TinkerTool System, and Cocktail are now compatible with Leopard.
Before migrating or installing software on your Intel-Mac check MacFixit's Rosetta Compatibility Index.
Additional links that will be helpful to new Intel-Mac users:
Intel In Macs
Apple Guide to Universal Applications
MacInTouch List of Compatible Universal Binaries
MacInTouch List of Rosetta Compatible Applications
MacUpdate List of Intel-Compatible Software
Transferring data with Setup Assistant - Migration Assistant FAQ
Because Migration Assistant isn't the ideal way to migrate from PowerPC to Intel Macs, using Target Disk Mode, copying the critical contents to CD and DVD, an external hard drive, or networking
will work better when moving from PowerPC to Intel Macs. The initial section below discusses Target Disk Mode. It is then followed by a section which discusses networking with Macs that lack Firewire.
If both computers support the use of Firewire then you can use the following instructions:
1. Repair the hard drive and permissions using Disk Utility.
2. Backup your data. This is vitally important in case you make a mistake or there's some other problem.
3. Connect a Firewire cable between your old Mac and your new Intel Mac.
4. Startup your old Mac in Target Disk Mode.
5. Startup your new Mac for the first time, go through the setup and registration screens, but do NOT migrate data over. Get to your desktop on the new Mac without migrating any new data over.
If you are not able to use a Firewire connection (for example you have a Late 2008 MacBook that only supports USB:)
1. Set up a local home network: Creating a small Ethernet Network.
2. If you have a MacBook Air or Late 2008 MacBook see the following:
MacBook (13-inch, Aluminum, Late 2008) and MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2008)- Migration Tips and Tricks;
MacBook (13-inch, Aluminum, Late 2008) and MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2008)- What to do if migration is unsuccessful;
MacBook Air- Migration Tips and Tricks;
MacBook Air- Remote Disc, Migration, or Remote Install Mac OS X and wireless 802.11n networks.
Copy the following items from your old Mac to the new Mac:
In your /Home/ folder: Documents, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Sites folders.
In your /Home/Library/ folder:
/Home/Library/Application Support/AddressBook (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Application Support/iCal (copy the whole folder)
Also in /Home/Library/Application Support (copy whatever else you need including folders for any third-party applications)
/Home/Library/Keychains (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Mail (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Preferences/ (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/Calendars (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/iTunes (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/Safari (copy the whole folder)
If you want cookies:
/Home/Library/Cookies/Cookies.plist
/Home/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/HTTPCookies.plist
For Entourage users:
Entourage is in /Home/Documents/Microsoft User Data
Also in /Home/Library/Preferences/Microsoft
Credit goes to Macjack for this information.
If you need to transfer data for other applications please ask the vendor or ask in the Discussions where specific applications store their data.
5. Once you have transferred what you need restart the new Mac and test to make sure the contents are there for each of the applications.
Written by Kappy with additional contributions from a brody.
Revised 1/6/2009

New OS'S for non-intel Macs stopping at Leopard?

I see that the upcoming new OS will be only for Intel Macs...
Ok Apple, are you making we older machine owners obsolete?

Hi Mark Dareau;
Apple does not read these threads. So you are not talking to them.
To answer your question if you mean that by not being able to upgrade to Snow Leopard your Mac is obsolete then yes.
Allan

ARD, Leopard and Intel Macs

I can't get ARD to load on my intel mac. Works fine on a power pc mac but not on an intel. I am using the latest version of ARD. Is anyone using ARD with an intel Mac?

Many people are.
Did you migrate your ARD install from a PPC machine to the Intel machine? This is known to cause problems. Your best bet is to remove all of the various plist files and, effectively, start clean.

Flash + Intel Mac + Leopard = CRASH!

I've got an intel mac pro with 4 GB ram running the latest
Mac OS 10.5.2. Its perfect and runs like a dream until I use CS3
then it all falls apart.
The worst app seems to be Flash. On average it crashes the
mac about every half hour. It's like using OS8 all over again.
What's going on? Every time I switch on the mac the Adobe Updater
starts bouncing around in my doc and thats another 20 minutes gone
downloading updates that don't seem to fix anything. There are some
serious errors with CS3 on intel mac. Are Adobe aware of this? and
are they doing anything about it?

quote:
Originally posted by:
Spen
I've got an intel mac pro with 4 GB ram running the latest
Mac OS 10.5.2. Its perfect and runs like a dream until I use CS3
then it all falls apart.
The worst app seems to be Flash. On average it crashes the
mac about every half hour. It's like using OS8 all over again.
What's going on? Every time I switch on the mac the Adobe Updater
starts bouncing around in my doc and thats another 20 minutes gone
downloading updates that don't seem to fix anything. There are some
serious errors with CS3 on intel mac. Are Adobe aware of this? and
are they doing anything about it?
Turn off the Adobe updater and download the stand-alone
updaters. Then leave the auto update off. A good idea for just
about everything.
My copy of CS3 runs fine.

Bluetooth Not Available on Intel Mac mini

I keep losing the Bluetooth wireless connection between my Apple wireless mouse and keyboard and my Intel Mac mini (which is running Mac OSX 10.5.5)
Tried re-booting but it doesn't always come back.
Looked in System Preferences, but if the connection is lost, Bluetooth has disappeared as if not installed. If the connection is present then all seems OK. You can check battery levels etc.
Left to itself Bluetooth can re-appear sometime later as mysteriously as it disappeared, maybe after half an hour or so. Very annoying as I have to result to using an Apple USB mouse and keyboard when the connection is lost.
Tried running Bluetooth Updater but it says I haven't got Bluetooth if the connection is lost! But it came pre-installed on purchase. Problem only seems to have started since upgrading to Leopard. Never had this problem with Tiger.
Any thoughts would be most welcome.
regards,
BJ

Ok, I've resolved this on my machine, at least for the time being.
Here is what I did. I am not advising anyone else to do this and I am in-no-way stating this will fix your problem. I'm just relaying what worked for me. If anyone chooses to try this then it's on their own head!
I opened my Mac Mini and located the Bluetooth circuit board just in front of the rear power button. I removed the small phillips screw holding the board in place and noticed that the connector that connects the board to the main motherboard was not seated well. I removed the connector and reattached it, making sure I felt the 'click' as the connector was pushed home.
I had also read on the net that the routing of the bluetooth ariel cable may cause problems due to interference from the USB ports. I took the opportunity to extract the ariel and run it over the disk and away from the USB ports. Before putting the lid back on I booted up to check Bluetooth was working again.
So, I now have my Mac Mini with Bluetooth working again. We shall see how long this lasts - perhaps the root cause was a loose connection, in which case it may be fixed permanently now. I shall report back in a few weeks.
Be aware that opening your Mac is going to invalidate any warranty. Mine was out of warranty anyway so I was not bothered. I've also got a degree in software and electronic engineering so know my way round the insides of computers. Please make your own assessment of your level of expertise before deciding to try what I did. It may not work for you anyway!

Text-wrap problem ID CS3 on Intel Mac

I've recently been upgraded to an Intel Mac workstation running Leopard and for the most part, the transition has been smooth. However, I just noticed today that I cannot get "detect edges" to work on a text wrap around an object with a transparent background in a placed Photoshop file. The detect edges only works if I have a white background. I've never had this problem before, so I wonder if it's a result of my new computer. I use this function of text wrap constantly, and I'm hoping someone knows if this is a known bug and if there is a work around.

You don´t have to use detect edges feature for extracted PSD-image.... just select a proper Contour Options Type, Alpha Channel for instance.

Need Advice: New Intel Mac Mini Still In The Box

Hi!
Okay.. I know... I have several posts going here as I have several issues I am trying to solve rather simultaneously. Thanks for being patient with me.
I have my old 1.25 Ghz PowerPC Mac Mini running 10.4.11 and all was well and happy. Then Security Update 2007-009 happened and all went to ....well... you know and, yes, it was bad! Went to Apple, got it running of sorts as they re-installed the OS, but they used an old version of OS X. (10.4.7. Can you believe that?) This caused other problems. It continues to have all sorts of difficulties, as I have had to get applications to re-recognize that the computer is back up to 10.4.11. Currently, I am struggling with trying to get iTunes to access it's music folders on the external hard drives. Realized that I hadn't even gotten around to figuring out whether or not some of my other applications work, like some of the games and third party, etc.
The thing is I got a new Intel Mac Mini for Christmas and it's still in the box because as I suspected I need to get my old mac perfect again before I can even think about migrating stuff over to the new Mac. But.. here's the thing... it's starting to look pretty much like 2008 will come and go before I can get the old Mac ready enough to take the new Mac out of the box. This really is rather silly!
Now... I can't get the old Mac to see the music and it made me think. I have all of my iTunes music and iPhoto backed up on an external hard drive (I used Apple's "Back-up" software to do it) and in addition to this two complete copies of the iTunes music and iPhoto photos albums on two separate external hard drives. Should I just forget using migration assistant? Can I get my music and my photo albums into the new mac directly from the external hard drives?
Or...can I use "back up" to restore the music and photos into the new Mac?
I am starting to think that the best way to get my new Mac running is not risk it by attaching it to my old Mac. What do you think?
Thank you so much for any advice or experiences you can give. -Charlotte

I know that I am vacillating back and forth as to what to do. Thanks so much for being patient with me. All of your advice is really appreciated and I am at least closing in on deciding on my strategy. Probably will follow your first response advice, especially considering that some of the third party apps may not have updates to handle Leopard quite yet. Anyway... it's a good strategy since everything is on the externals anyway.
You can say that fine.
Ha ha ha.... yes, I've been messing around with computers since my parents bought our first Apple computer back in 1979. Just like you, I've never had a serious problem with any of the computers and we've had them all, running all sorts of things from the Original Apple and Apple IIc (which my parents still have and it still runs!) to the Commodore and all the Windows permeations and then on to the Macs running Jaguar, Panther and Tiger, probably because we've always been careful with the machines and what we install in them and how we update them. I have always kept my computers on UPS' and un-plug them when storms brew outside. As it is I am still using my eight year old Windows 98 computer, (for games mostly) and it still runs quicker than most peoples windows pcs and it's only a 740 Megahertz.
I haven't had to re-install anything, especially on this lovely little Mac Mini until now and wouldn't have in this situation, had I known more. I had taken the little Mac Mini in for a Procare "Tune-Up," only four days before the big up-date disaster. Not sure what they did to my mac in the tune-up but the guy gave me back the machine assuring me that the computer was perfect with no problems in answer to my asking "were they sure?" Even after the Genius Bar techs at the Apple Store re-installed the OS to fix the big problems it seems that no one ever thought to run verify disk. Had the Genius Bar techs at the time of the tune-up done this, or at least told me to do this, the last security update would not have wrecked so much havoc. It was only after I got the machine back from Apple that second time that I found that the directory had been corrupted when I ran disk verify. Actually it is amazing that I have had this little Mac Mini for so long and so not have had any problems on it that I would be able to go so long without having to know this really pretty important aspect of keeping one's mac in good running shape. I had been running maintenance scripts and permissions verify and repair and thought that was all there was to it. Silly! You know... that really is a testimony of how nice these little machines are.
Anyway... experience is a good teacher and I have learned so much it's actually been great! This stuff is pretty interesting.
Now... on to Leopard!
Thanks so much and you have a great New Year! -Charlotte

Why can't I get tiger to load on my Intel Mac

I have an Intel Core 2 Duo, imac 6,1. I bought it used with Snow leopard already installed. I partitioned the disk and attempted to load Tiger 10.4.6 install dvd, but as soon as I put in the disk I get this message : "Mac OS 10.4 can not be installed on this machine". This black faced disc did not come with my computer. Could the disk be a problem ?

The 6,1 identifies it as an iMac which originally shipped with Mac OS X 10.4.7, and it was purchased used. If a retail Mac OS X 10.4 package isn't listed as being Mac OS X Server on the outside, it isn't one and won't run on an Intel Mac. Apple never released the client Intel version of 10.4 on a retail DVD because all Macs that would have been compatible with it shipped with it.
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