Leopard Mail doesn't auto-mark sent mail as sent

In Tiger's Mail, whenever I sent a message and the message got put into my Sent folder, it would automatically mark the message as read. This is what I want. I obviously know what the message says since I just wrote it.
However, since upgrading to Leopard's Mail, whenever a message gets sent and put into the Sent folder, it is no longer automatically marked as read. Why this change? Is this a bug?
And, more importantly, how do I fix it? Are rules applied to outgoing mail as well?

Same here, have posted in another thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1222041&tstart=45
I have verified with Runbox my IMAP provider that it is not their server at fault, they tested my account with Thunderbird and Outlook and this does not happen. It is Leopard seemingly.
I have sent feedback to Apple but zero response. This behaviour seems almost random.

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Apple Mail client no longer marks my mail as read on all my iOS devices. If I read a email on my iPhone and later open Mail on my iPad, the iPad still shows the email as unread.This changed recently, perhaps after iOS7 upgrade. Did I miss a setting? All mail account are IMA. iCloud is set to push, business mail is set to fetch every 15 minutes.

Read thier own support document on the subject then
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1795
This document was written as an answer to all those who complained about it as paying MobileMe users
They ignored us then and when MobileMe became iCloud they ignored us again, and just carried on with a system that will not update the e-mail read status across all devices
That's how it works, and like you 1000's of loyal Apple users cant believe it either but there you go

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Hi! I have a .mac email account, and I use two different aliases for the account. I want all the mail sent to one of the aliases to go into a designated mailbox. I've tried doing this with both a smart mailbox and using a rule to move the messages to a mailbox on my .mac account (not both at the same time, I've tried it separately both ways).
Both of these options work, except that mail will not make the "new mail" sound when I get a new email for that mailbox. Even when I add to the rule that it should make a sound, it doesn't. Other mail (i.e., all of my other mail that is delivered normally to my inbox) is not affected--I still get the normal sound. Any ideas? Thanks! (And BTW, I always give points for helpful answers!)

You’re welcome.
Actually, I don’t participate here just to be helpful. I also do it to learn. I know WAY more about Mail now than I knew when I started helping people here... and without having experienced myself any of the problems I troubleshoot each and every day...
I really wanted an answer.
That’s precisely why you shouldn’t say in advance that you’ll give points. Nobody is going to assume you won’t, so there is no need to say you will. All you have to do is mark posts when appropriate (without saying in advance that you will). That makes everybody happy.
don't you ever get frustrated by the number of people who don't
mark helpful or solved answers as such?
Not if the OP somehow lets me know whether the proposed solution worked or not. Sometimes I know for sure what the problem is and how to solve it, but others I don’t, and the user’s feedback is way more valuable to me than any points I could get.
So yes, merely setting up a smart mailbox is enough to make Mail
to quit making the sound.
I’ve been unable to reproduce what you describe, but I’ve found something that could be related. Selecting an IMAP (or .Mac) mailbox causes Mail to check for changes made to that mailbox, including checking for new mail and applying rules as appropriate, just like it would do when automatically checking for mail according to your settings, except no sound is played if new mail arrived...
Could that be what you’re observing, i.e. could it be that Mail is actually behaving as expected but it seems that it isn’t because you’re checking for new mail as a result of manually selecting the account’s Inbox or something like that?

How come Mac Mail doesn't ding when new mail arrives?

My sound is on. Recently my Mac Mail doesn't notify me by sound when I have new mail. I'm running on 10.7.5.

I checked email several minutes ago. Activity Monitor now shows it as using 0% of CPU time. When that's the case it's now using any power at all. Every so often it will "wake up" to check for new mail. When that happens it will briefly use some CPU power. That interval can be controlled with the setting for "Check for new messages" in the General panel of Mail's preferences.
You didn't ask about RAM, but when Mail is idle I'd expect it put minimal demands on RAM.

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I just setup my mother-in-law's new iMac's email. It is setup to use imap and everything seems to working correctly. However, it will only receive email once Mail is closed (Quit) and reopened. It will not automatically receive email while it is open.
I have tried setting up the pop version of the email but it also does the same thing.
Anyone out there with any suggestions?

sig wrote:
Mail>Preferences>General>Check for new messages.
Thank you for your...reply.
I've tried that, thus the reason of asking why it isn't working. I've also tried the manual "Get Mail" button. The only way that mail is recieved, is if Mail is Quit/closed and then reopened. Once reopened, all test emails start flooding in. Sending mail isn't an issue.

Mail filter seems to mark outgoing mail as spam...is that right?

I thought that the mail filter ran on incoming email before it got delivered to individual mailboxes.
But I have a php program that uses my smtp server to send email (using the php mail() function). Recently one of the accounts we were testing, sent several empty email messages to test accounts. This caused the spam filter to classify it as spam. But the weird part is it gets tagged with my spam message in the subject when it gets sent.
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I'm just surprised that it is going through the filter on the way out. Does this sound right?
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It should be good enough to redirect (not forward) mails originating from that account to "notjunkmail". May take more than one redirected mail though.
You can however whitelist domains or accounts which is easier than avoiding outgoing scans. However, whitelisting by domain or mail address always bears a risk of letting "spoofed" mail through. So if you go down that route, make sure your server is properly secured.
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I do however get it when a mail comes in which isn't part of my rules and goes into my inbox, normally someone who I'm not waiting for an email.
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I'm now able to see when i've got new emails after your pointer. It is however telling me I have 10 new mails which aren't there?
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Sent mail does not appear in sent mailbox after sending

Sent mail does not appear in sent mailbox after sending

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Quit Mail. Force quit if necessary.
Back up all data. That means you know you can restore the Mail database, no matter what happens.
Triple-click the line below on this page to select it:
~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData/Envelope Index
Copy the selected text to the Clipboard (command-C). In the Finder, select
Go ▹ Go to Folder
from the menu bar. Paste into the box that opens (command-V), then press return.
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Log out and log back in. Relaunch Mail. It should prompt you to re-import your messages. You may get a warning that the index is corrupt and that Mail has to quit. Click OK.
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Sent mail does not sync between devices

My sent mail does not sync between devices. For example, if I send an email from my Iphone it does not show in my sent box on the MAC mail (postage stamp). If I send mail from MAC mail it does not show on my phone. But if I go to Yahoo (mail) I can see all sent mail.
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Quit Mail. Force quit if necessary.
Back up all data. That means you know you can restore the Mail database, no matter what happens.
Triple-click the line below on this page to select it:
~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData/Envelope Index
Copy the selected text to the Clipboard (command-C). In the Finder, select
Go ▹ Go to Folder
from the menu bar. Paste into the box that opens (command-V), then press return.
A Finder window will open with a file selected. Move the selected file to the Desktop, leaving the window open. Other files in the folder may have names that begin with "Envelope Index". Move those files, if any, to the Trash.
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Mail should show me the e-mail address, but it doesn't. I mean.. if I receive a mail from a my friend and Mail thinks it's a spam mail, it put it in the spam directory.
I drag and drop it in the inbox mails, but if I do that, the e-mail address and object disappear!
If I click it, I can see the preview of the mail and the email address and object appear again, but if I try to reply to the e-mail, Mail doesn't know (again) the mail address where to send the reply.. so I need to type it by myself. Is it normal?
Here a screenshot:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3755/mailbugig2.jpg

Oh I see... I'm sorry, iGodess, I should have looked at your screenshot first (I thought you meant something else just by reading), I'm really sorry.
Am I correct: You see the name but not the address in the mailbox viewer (the upper part).
What I see in your screenshot is normal. I'm afraid you can't change that, at least I found no way.
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Mail is open.
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Verify/repair the startup disk (not just permissions), as described here:
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8. Go to ~/Library/Mail/Mailboxes/. Locate any Junk.mbox mailboxes there (their name may include the account name in parenthesis), and move them to the Trash.
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Many thanks in advance for your attention.
Writing for a friend:
This is for their PowerPC G5. Running OS 10.5. Mail - version 3.
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