Leopard on eMac

Hi! Someone I know has an eMac. He wants to install Leopard, but is unsure how the installation works. Should he format the hard-drive, or not? Or will it automatically format it? He just wants the choice for the best performance. Will formatting or not formatting make a difference in performance? Also, he has a dreaded PC he would like to back his stuff up on. Can he? Thanks, this lazy guy made me post this!

Should he format the hard-drive, or not?
Assuming that eMac is capable of running Leopard, I like to install a major system upgrade to a cleanly wiped and formatted partition. That eliminates any preexisting problems with the current install being left behind. If he has a lot of files already on the computer and no way to back them up (not good), then an Archive and Install option is available. CAVEAT!: Before doing an A&I, he must make certain that his currently installed OS is healthy and running properly.
Leopard comes only on DVD disks. Some eMacs do not have a DVD-compatible optical drive. That's one reason why Ian's recommendation to post complete specs is so important;

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I have a 1.25 GHz version. I was running 10.3 and started to get frustrated with some web sites not working on the older version of Safari. Also some of the recent upgrades to adobe etc weren't supported by 10.3. As a short fix I downloaded the Camino browser. This solved a lot of the surfing problems. I finally decided to bite the bullet and bought the Mac Box set of Leopard, iLife '09 and iWork '09.
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I would like to install Leopard on my eMac (USB 2.0) but it doesn't read dual layer DVDs so my Leopard disc gets spat back out by the eMac.
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What you can do is this. Get a Firewire external drive. Clone the installer DVD to the external drive then boot the computer from the external drive and install OS X. The Firewire drive needs to be partitioned using APM and formatted Mac OS Extended, Journaled. To clone:
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Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
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I have an eMac Power PC G4 1.42mhz 1gb RAM, will it run?
As my D drive is broken I copied Leopard Setup into my computer and created a *.dmg. Is it possible to copy it to a flashdrive and then boot it from there holding C???
I've attempted some of these, but somehow when i'm copying the *.dmg to the flashdrive i get the error: "An error ocurred while copying files."
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Also, the only way to duplicate the Leopard install disc is to use Disk Utility. Could you outline the steps you followed to create your .dmg file?
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Hi guys!
I have a problem that's troubling me. My eMac has a DVD drive that reads normal DVD's and burns CD's only. It cannot burn DVD's or read DVD-DL. So by trying to install Leopard, it would only eject the disk. With a 3rd party external DVD drive it wouldn't recognize it when it boots. So I need an alternative: can I use the MacBook Air's External Superdrive? Or is there another way?
I know the explanation was confusing so I appreciate your help guys!

So I need an alternative: can I use the MacBook Air's External Superdrive?
I don't think so. That drive was for "only" the MB Air and the only reports I've seen on using it for other models of Macs said it works on some Intel Macs, never PPC Macs (like the eMac).
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FreeAgent drives
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My Tiger eMac only has a 14 gigs free. will Leopard work?

I'm not near the eMac now but I got it around 2001/2003. It came with OSX and 9 and not a very big HD. I think 60mb.
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I already have iTunes and iPhoto on an external drive and they are both pretty slow to open.
Actually , the whole computer is pretty slow .
would Leopard effect the external drive performance or perhaps slow it down even more ?

thanks Kappy
Well i have 700 MHz PowerPC G4 with 640 MB SDRAM
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If I was somehow I was able to make enough room on the HD would the 700 MHz still make it not a good idea ?
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