Leopard on older mac?

Does anyone have experience with installing Leopard on an older mac? I have a powermac with dual G4 processors running at 867 Mhz - the bare minimum Mhz-wise of what Apple recommends for Leopard.
I want to know if it's worthwhile to upgrade this machine to Leopard, or if the machine will crawl performance-wise after the upgrade.

I decided to take everyone's advice. I upgraded my powermac and I bought a new macbook.
Since everyone knows Leopard runs well on a new macbook, I'll instead tell you about performance on my PowerMac G4 867 Mhz: Pretty darn good. I figured I'd have to back the change out, but no. Everything I used to do on my mac is just as fast now - if not faster - than on Tiger. Now, some of the new eye candy is pokey, especially compared to my macbook. E.g. there's a noticeable pause when bringing up quickview or one of those spring loaded thingies on the dock (I forget the marketing term for them). But web browsing, iPhoto, mail and other fun things work wonderfully on my new OS. As does e.g. the screen sharing.
All in all - if you have a mac that is as good or better than this, you shouldn't hesitate to upgrade.

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Installing Leopard on older Mac

I have a MBP with a 2.4 ghz SR cpu/4 gb ram and a 160 gb 7200rpm hard drive that I bought about 14 months ago and it came with Tiger and now runs 10.4.11
I would like to install Leopard but I am wondering if doing so will hurt its performance in any way?
Is it good enough to run Leopard as well or perhaps better than Tiger?
If I install, should I do a clean install and reinstall all of my apps as well?
I definitely do not want any problems caused by just installing over the current setup.
Also, besides my personal files, how do you back up the mail settings and emails, the internet settings and the address book?
Thanks a lot for any advice.

Hi - the specs of your MPB are fine and Leopard should run absolutely great in my opinion. How much RAM do you have installed presently, as perhaps upgrading to 4GB (Your machine's maximum) will enhance your experience.
When installing you should be given the opportunity to "Upgrade" - i.e. retain all files and settings. If your present system is running well there is no need to perform a clean install.
However, as in all cases where touching the OS are concerned I recommend a full backup just to be on the safe side before you start upgrading.

I am trying to do a migration transfer from an older Mac Pro, running Leopard, to a newer Mac Pro, running Lion. There is a step that asks for a "passcode" to proceed. I have no idea what that passcode is. It seems to want a numeric code.

I am trying to do a migration transfer from an older Mac Pro, running Leopard, to a newer Mac Pro, running Lion. There is a step that asks for a "passcode" to proceed. I have no idea what that passcode is. It seems to want a numeric code. Has anyone had this experience?

This general-purpose article gives detailed step-by-step instructions for using Migration assistant, Setup Assistant, and other mehtods, and discusses the Pros and cons of each mtheod. It is very approachable and easy to understand. Wriiten by Pondini, the resident Time Machine guru.
Setting-up a new Mac from an old one, its backups, or a PC

Do I need a more recent mac mini to use my iphone 4 with. Im unable to download snow leopard because my mac mini is older. Do I need to get a new mac or is there something else i can do

Do I need a more recent mac mini to use my iphone 4 with. Im unable to download snow leopard because my mac mini is older. Do I need to get a new mac or is there something else i can do

Get Leopard.
System Requirements
Apple ID (required for some features)
Internet access6
Syncing with iTunes on a Mac or PC requires:
Mac: OS X v10.5.8 or later
PC: Windows 7; Windows Vista; or Windows XP Home or Professional with Service Pack 3 or later
iTunes 10.5 or later (free download fromwww.itunes.com/download)
http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

Does anyone know what is the best version of word I can have on my older mac mini 10.5.8 PPC? I am running Leopard. Does anyone have it or know where I can get it please?

Does anyone know what is the best version of word I can have on my older mac mini 10.5.8 PPC? I am running Leopard. Does anyone have it or know where I can get it please?

I agree with Grant. But to answer your question, that would be Word 2008. A quick search turns it up on sale at Amazon. You'll need to find it somewhere other than Microsoft itself, since MS stopped selling it when they released Word 2011.
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Office-2008-Mac-Version/dp/B000WR2F2M

How do I import a large iPhoto library into an iMac running Yosemite without losing the existing division of the library into albums?which file do I look for on the older Mac, running Snow Leopard?

Import of library

You don't import one library into another. Simply copy the library from the older Mac to the Pictures folder on iMac. If you already have a library on the iMac rename it first.
Next launch iPhoto on the new iMac with the Option key held down and select the newly copied library.
If you have photos in the original library on the iMac you can merge that library into the larger, copied library with the paid version of iPhoto Library Manager. Or if you also have Aperture 3.3 you can use it to merge the two libraries.

Older Mac Mini and iLife11

Hi there
I have a older Mac Mini (MA608B/A) Intel Core Duo 1.83 GHz upgraded with 2 GB RAM with OS 10.6.5 installed. I want to upgrade my copy of iLife as I'm still running the original iLife06 that shipped with it. I'm wondering whether my Mac Mini is really man enough to run iLife 11? Yes my mac meets the 'minimum specs' for running iLife11 but that doesn't necessarily mean it is capable of running it quickly and efficiently. Last thing I want to do is buy iLife11 and find my mac becomes so slow and clunky that the applications are rendered virtually unusable.
Are there any other users out there with a similar spec Mac Mini who have iLife11 installed who can report how it runs on their Mac Mini's, or would i be better off getting hold of a previous version such as iLife08 or 09?
Cheers
Jonty

I'm also having speed problems with two 1.83 mhz duo's. In the last six months, even before I installed snow leopard and ilife 11, it has been extremely slow. I'm wondering whether there is something in the updates making the computers exceptionally slow.

Installation of leopard from one mac mini to another with dead CD/DVD drive

Is it possible to install Leopard on to an older mac mini that has a nonfunctioning CD-RW/DVD-ROM drive but otherwise works fine for what it is
Hardware Overview: Machine Model: Mac mini
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (1.1) CPU Speed: 1.25 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB Memory: 256 MB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.8.9f1
Serial Number:
TOSHIBA MK4025GAS:
Capacity: 37.26 GB
Model: TOSHIBA MK4025GAS
Revision: KA100P
Serial Number:
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
HARD DISK:
Capacity: 37.13 GB
Available: 9.02 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: Journaled HFS+
BSD Name: disk0s3
Mount Point: /
MATSHITA CD-RW CW-8123:
Manufacturer: MATSHITA
Model: MATSHITA CD-RW CW-8123
Revision: CAD4
Serial Number:
Drive Type: CD-RW/DVD-ROM
Disc Burning: Apple Supported/Shipped
Removable Media: Yes
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 1
Socket Type: Internal
FROM a mac mini that HAS a functioning CD/DVD drive
Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: PowerMac10,1
Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (1.2)
Processor Speed: 1.42 GHz
Number Of CPUs: 1
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 512 MB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.8.9f4
Serial Number:
MATSHITA CD-RW CW-8124:
Firmware Revision: DACD
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw
Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds
I thought maybe I could do it with firewire but no luck...
any help would be greatly appreciated
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Boot the mini into TD mode
Connect it to the "other" Mac
Insert the install disk in the "other" Mac
Start the installer which will reboot the "other" Mac
Once the "other" Mac has restarted and is running from the install disk, you should be able to select the Mini's drive (the FW disk) as the install destination. If not, go into the Disk Utility (under the "Utilities" menu) and check out the FW disk. You may need to "repair" it, repair permissions or reformat it depending on the condition of the disk and the type of partition it contains.

Can I use Tiger and Snow Leopard on my Mac Pro?

I have a 3 year old Mac Pro with 2 internal hard drives installed by Apple at the time of purchase. At present, I'm using Tiger 10.4.11. I've purchased Snow Leopard (The Family Pack with 5 licenses) and have installed it on my MacBook Pro.
I haven't put Snow Leopard on my Mac Pro since it is my main, workhorse computer and I have several older applications that aren't compatible with Snow Leopard.
My question is: Can I install Snow Leopard on my second internal drive and leave Tiger on the main drive? That way I could use either system by changing the start-up drive to the system I want to use. Is this possible, or advisable? Will it work or cause problems?
Another question: If one of the drives needs repair, could I boot up in the other drive and run Disk Utility to make the repairs instead of booting the computer from the original software CD? (I'm having a problem finding the original Tiger 10.4 System CD in my organizationally challenged graphic design and illustration studio.)
Thanks for any help anyone can offer.
Specs:
MacPro1,1
Dual-Core Intel Xeon (Intel)
2.66 GHz
Two hard drives each with two 512 MB RAM chips
Bay 1: Intel 232.89 GB drive
Bay 2: Intel 465.76 GB drive

Been hiding or not backing up and keeping bootable spares?
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Searching Archive for Older Mac 10.4 (non Intel) Computer Lost Flash Player

Hello Forum Users!
I'm sorry to bother you, but checked recent posts and knowledge base and cannot seem to find my problem listed.
Problem starts and ends with older Mac operating system (10.4.11, Yes, I am still using Tiger and my G4 is said not to be acceptable to Leopard so its time for new computer..but until then)....
I have only a 60 GB HD, and it was getting "full" so suggestion I received and someone helped me do it, was to eliminate all old "downloads" I was saving.
Fine....except that while I was cleaning up the older programs I "don't use" to get more room on the Hard Drive (I had less than 10 GB free and Apples don't like that on their Journal Drives), I accidentally "erased" (then threw out as trash to get room) the Adobe Flash Player. Not a problem! But now of course I remember that is "why" keep normally all "downloads" as files in case I do that....so no older download to use as my own archive.
Ok, not a problem! Go to Adobe and download a new Flash Player (Of course I can't use 10.3 and all the others you keep referring to, as I don't have an "Intel" chip operating computer, so 10.4 is supported by newer Flash Players but only those using an Intel chip which my computer doesn't have. (Lap top else I'd try all types of modificactions to work around the problem).
Sorry too many details, but rather let you know now than questions back and forth.
The final irony is that I know of Adobe's Archives and went "back in time" downloading and testing out various Flash Players (sorry, didn't pay attention so I did not ever have marked down which version of older Adobe worked with my 10.4.11).
So I tried all the 10.2's 10.0's 9's (even the developer ones) I hit the 8's and realized that maybe I'm not doing something right as I do think if you are using 10.3 now, that 8 versions should have been usable according to the June 2010 system requirement lists.
For downloading I select Mac "other" as my operating system since the current specificaitons for downloading list 10.4 to 10.6 as "Intel" based.
Did I leave anything out?
I really need Adobe Flash Player as most of the web sites are just refusing to display anything but words for me, so just boring now on web without access to all the content that Flash Player provides. (no more funny You tube videos either of course!).
Can anyone help me with my Adobe problem?
Thanks!

To both of my helpers.....Success! (Skip to end if you don't want to read the details).
Sorry for the delay in responding to all of your suggestions!
eidnolb: Here is what I found on the page with red "f" this time. But using Safari, the whole top of the page says "Flash" meaning that the red "F" is part of a Flash item that is not loading in Safari, but does load in my other Browser, Sea Monkey.
Using Safari I right clicked (was on wrong page sorry) and got the "ClicktoFlash---Settings" settings
I do not have regular "settings" anymore on my list just: Load Flash/Load all on this page/add www.Adobe.com to whitelist/ClicktoFlash Settings.
And in the Click to Flash Settings there is no box to uncheck for hardware acceleration. Only things like Options/sIFR Text Updates Uninstall (of course) version 1.5.5 if that matters).
I set up my account in Adobe using Sea Monkey which I do when Safari is fully being used for other purposes that day, so that explains why I got confused sometimes, the Flash Content in Sea Monkey "works" but the same page loaded in Safari does not work. I do have Firefox, but that has too many saved pages that have not been gone over to "unsave" them when I'm done either printing the contnet or saving the content or bookmarking it, so that is quite unusuable right now so I don't know if any of the flash is working or not on Firefox (and I don't have Chrome loaded in yet....maybe I read it was Leopard only? I forget why it is not
another choice for me).
Willener pat's (finally used a mirror!) suggestion I try the FP uninstaller again, I made sure it was done using Safari (Sea Monkey does not like it)....and despite it appearing for the higher levels of Mac OSX I tried it....
Its getting complicated. I can read the instructions how to do it in Sea Monkey, but Sea Monkey does not like the file (does not know what to do with it and offers my entire "Mac" database of applications i.e. word, etc to use it (very bad). Safari can use the file but I have to click on it without the accompanying instrtuctions to help me as they are not visible or printable anymore from within Safari without Flash. So I'm using the printed instrucitons from Sea Monkey to follow and Safari to do the downloading!
I'll work this out yet!
eidnolb: I visited http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html after uninstall as you and pat say to do.
But the message reads:
"The following displays the type of Flash Player version that this browser is running, and its capabilities. Usually only developers creating content for Flash Player require this information: "
But Guess What? The box is a "FLASH" item!! So I can't see what version is in there! (Catch-22 they call that!).
My company's Flash pages are showing up on both Safari and Sea Monkey, they pause then load even though I've not set them for "permissions" or "whitelist" on the ClicktoFlash" because the content is created by various people and they have bad web page habits so especially I do not load Flash immediately at my company's web pages, as it can hang or cause scripts to keep working so I have to stop it. That is why the person I deal with got me "ClicktoFlash" as just because I know how to create a web page, doesn't mean all the other ones I deal with know how!
I'm thinking at this point, should I try installing back in the version again? I guess no harm can come from that so I went back to eidnolb's version in original message and tried to load it in again.
Result is: nothing!
I clicked on your address in Sea Monkey and copied to safari and both don't work. "Page Not Found" Error.
This is what I clicked on to get the Flash installer 10.1.102.64 before! I know it worked then, why not now? So I'll use the copy I've downloaded before but why is the link not working now?
eidnolb: June 15, 2011 10:53 am
Flash installer 10.1.102.64 [http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp 10.1.102.64_and_9.0.289.0archive.zip] Open the archive to reveal yet more archives and multiple files. Select: flashplayer101r102_64_ubmac.dmg
By the way....reading everything that came with the installer program (it appears for developers only as archived version), it says to "restart" system after uninstall. Maybe that is what I did not do, but I've closed and restarted my computer each time I leave so I know its been "done" in middle of writing your forum replies, I just save it elsewhere and come back to continue writing!
So closing and restarting everything had no effect. On the Adobe Find Flash Player Version page, I still can't "see" the box with version of Flash Player I'm currently running, as its a Flash box that does not activate. The other Adobe page with "red" F still does not show the me "red" F just a huge "Flash" box that I can't open.
So here goes with installing again from the saved version of download (by the by I'm now down to 9.46 GB free since I've opened and downloaded so many files so many times. Just don't know which to delete as nothing has worked yet!
Now it works! I think!
I got the "Find Flash Player Version" page and I can "see" the result
I'm using Player Version: MAC 10,1,53,64
Debug Player: No
Opening system Mac OS 10.4.11
Video Capable Yes
Audio Capable Yes
Local File I/O Enabled: Yes
So I guess that is it!
It works !
I could have just said this part alone, but wanted both of you to see what steps I took to get it working again! (Might be helpful to anyone else stupid enough to try to create more room by deleting any large files with unidentified names).
Which answer fits the bill for "correct" answer? I"ll click on and award points however you both see fit (10 to best answer 5 to possible answers).
I went to check on the one you (eidnolb) answered about Google Maps (I have a iPad now and always use it for my portable use of Google Maps so didn't notice anything like he mentioned, so I just went in to give a check and Safari and Google Maps are all working fine with street views (the orange man---does anyone have a name for him? Have a contest!). It all works so thanks again.
Best regards to everyone!

New Mac Mini Server, two Hard drives, Can I install an older Mac OS on the second drive and switch start up disks to run PowerPc applications?

New Mac Mini Server, has two Hard drives, could I install an older Mac OS on the second drive and switch start up disks to run PowerPc applications?

I haven't purchased a Mac Mini at this time and I may not if I can't use it as a non server. I need to update my system I would be better off buying a new Mac with Snow Leopard the last app that will run Rosetta. The Mac Mini Server has a quad 2.0 processor and 4 GB RAM and two internal hard drives and should out perform my dual 1.25 G4. I can run PPC apps on my G4 but it is 8+ years old and seems to be getting noisy. I don't want to tie myself to another old machine. I want a machine that will work with Intel Apps I was hoping that the two hard drives would allow me to boot from the second with Snow Leopard and use Lion on the first drive to be able to keep up to date with all my other universal apps and Mac OS up grades. The application I use the most is my CanvasX app with drawing & vector effects, text & typography, sprite technology, painting, image editing, and multimedia tools are all in this one app but will not be updated to run Intel apps. I am frozen in time because my most valuable Application won't be updated and Apple has cut me off by not supporting PPC in Lion and onward; Apple used to backward support but I guess that they are no longer as user friendly and concerned with a happy user. I have always been a loyal Mac user and I will not migrate to Windows under any circumstance; I hate windows!
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Good wireless cards for older Mac Pros

I have a Mac Pro Dual-Core Intel Xeon 2.66 GHz at work that we are trying to get online wirelessly. A couple of months ago, we bought a Hawking Hi-Gain Wireless-N USB Adaptor, which was working fine until a recent update was performed. Since then, the computer crashes almost immediately if the wireless adaptor is plugged in, but runs fine when it is taken out. I am curious if anyone else has run into a similar problem when using a wireless adaptor. I also wanted to know if anyone had a recommendation for a different, reliable wireless card for an older Mac Pro.
Thanks in advance.

I have almost the exact same situation.
Same system, a d-link wua 1340 usb wireless adaptor.
Worked fine for several weeks or so until i updated to snow leopard.
Now frequent system crashes, grey screen and the box that tells me to use the power button to shut down.
I tried going back to 10.5 and still the same problem.

What specific technology are older macs bluetooth missing that will not allow handoff to work?

What specific technology are older macs bluetooth (that is built in) missing that will not allow handoff to work? Will apple allow people to buy third party bluetooth 4.0 to allow it to work?

Well, with a PPC Mac you can upgrade as far as Firefox 3.6.19 if you upgrade from Tiger OSX 10.3.9 to Leopard OSX 10.5, but Firefox doesn't support PPC architecture in the latest Firefox 4, 5, and 6.0 versions.
For older Macs that aren't supported in Firefox 4.0 & 5.0, try TenFourFox for PowerPC's running Mac 10.4.11 & 10.5.8 . <br />
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
But, you still need to carefully investigate if your hardware specs are sufficient for either Firefox 3.6.19 or for 10-4Fox.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/system-requirements/

Where can I find an installer for Lion for my older Mac?

Last year I purchased Lion for my main Mac; this year I upgraded to Mountain Lion. Now I'd like to bring one of my older Macs up to the newest OS it's capable of, which is Lion. I can't find a Lion download/installer on the App store anymore. The 10.7.5 "updater" doesn't work since the Mac currently has Snow Leopard installed on it.
Is there a Lion download available anywhere?

sign into the app store with the apple ID used to purchase Lion on the mac you wish to install it on, hold down the option key and click on "purchases". click the download button next to Lion.

ICloud on older Mac running 10.6.8 - with Intel 2 GHz Core Duo

Do I understand correctly that I can't upgrade to iCloud from Mobile Me, with an older Mac running 10.6.8 (with 2 GHz Intel Core Duo)?

This will be the situation with Snow Leopard if you migrate your MobileMe account:
Your email, calendars, contacts and bookmarks, and 'Find my iPhone' will be migrated to iCloud.
Your iDisk, together with website hosting and Gallery, will continue to work as before until next June.
Syncing of Dashboard Widgets, Dock Items and Keychains between Macs, and Mail Accounts, Mail Rules, System Preferences, Signatures & Smart Mailboxes between Macs & iOS devices, will cease altogether.
You will be able to access email, calendar and contacts on the iCloud website at http://icloud.com provided your browser is reasonably up-to-date.
You will not be able to sync contacts or bookmarks from a pre-Lion Mac.
You will be able to enter the server settings for email manually in the Mail application and access your email.
You will not be able to sync your calendars directly.
Some people have been able to set up calendar syncing by using the method detailed here - this is an unsupported hack and may not be reliable, and may stop working at some future point. BusyCal is an iCal-like calendar application with extra facilities: it can sync with the iCloud Calendar while running on Leopard, Snow Leopard or Lion.
There appears to be no method of syncing contacts (though Address Book on a Mac can be synced with Google or Yahoo address books - I don't know how reliable this is).

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