Leopard on ppc

Hi
Does leopard with ppc 2.5 quad and logic 8.02 work as smooth as it works with the intel 8 core or it it is better to keep the ppc on 10.4.11?

I use Leopard on my G5... 10.5.5
it works fine if you use a big size Hard drive for the system and leaves 40% free disk space! (on my case 259 GB free space)
Also
repair permission..
and avoid to have SUID warnings... you will need to reinstall if that happen.
G

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This is not strictly true. Here is my earlier post on the matter:
I don't know much about the various Apple license agreements but I suspect these matters may not be as black and white as some appear to believe.
It is certainly the case that Apple require normal single licenses to be transferred with all associated media but this may not be completely enforceable in all jurisdictions.
It would be wrong to assume that possession of a DVD etc is any indication of license ownership or the right to use it. For example Apple state that AMP agreements revoke the earlier license but they don't recover the old DVDs. My understanding is that educational software can be transferred and used legally by other educational users so here again possession of the DVD may not confer the right to use it, ie the person with the DVD may not be associated with education - what happens at the end of a student's course?
I am not sure if any of the volume licensing agreements permit licenses to be transferred. A quick investigation indicated that they are probably not transferable although this did not appear to be so clear for school licenses. Those unfamiliar with volume licenses may not be aware that the media and license are separate, eg a 1,000 seat license is supplied with only one media set although further media can be purchased at a nominal price.
Whatever the strict terms of their licenses eventually large concerns often sell their old computers with at least a working, although perhaps old, OS.
In my volume licensing world I do not assume that:
1 - possession of a DVD implies any right to use it
2 - the lack of a DVD implies software is unlicensed.
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After Leopard Install PPC MAc restarts then shuts down

SO, I installed Leopard on a PPC mac 1.2 gig hz mac with firwire and DVD and 1.5 GHZ of memory. The install went okay (actually upgrade from last OSX), I got the Installed Okay message. The system shut down and restarted and then shut down again. That was it. What did I do wrong or what should I do. This is a family pack, I installed Leopard okay on my Macbook 1.8 ghz laptop just fine. Why will it not install on the Power PC mac? It is G4 AGP graphics. Is that the problem?

You do not need another drive to do Migration, You need another Mac to do a migration. I see that you have a MacBook 1.8 ghz laptop, use that Mac to migrate the account, you can delete it off of the MacBook after you send it back to the AGP. besides this will save all of the setting and account information for your daughters Mac. Currently I have a 60GB HD on my AGP and it is able to operate Leopard and Home files just fine, Now to handle the the very large files and storage of archive data I have an external 160 Lacie HD Firewire. BTY. The AGP can only handle a Max of 128 GB HD (master). Anything larger is not used, even if the HD is partitioned, Slaves and external HD are OK for larger storage. Additionally after you have done all of your backups and save files and apps. You might want to try an "install and archive" first. Some AGP users have had success with it. I did not and had to do a complete reformatting. FYI. My current 60GB HD used to be my slave drive. I had the original drive HD as the Master and both were internal. the AGP provides the plugs and bracket inside the AGP for two drives. But the original drive started to go bad and I have to image/clone the drive and moved the Master to the 60GB HD and moved the data that was on the 60 to the new external 160.
Additional: Make sure that you set the jumpers to either master or slave on the internal HD, and you can only have one master HD. Check HD information on how to set jumper for each brand.

Configuring leopard on ppc powerbook g4

Hi there,
I installed leopard and now have 10.5.5 n my ppc G4. I want to make it work as efficiently as possible for my older computer. I don't have a camera attached for instance so are there programs and utilities I could get rid of that would help out? Are there things optimized for intel processors that I could get rid of or change? Should I get of front row as I don't have a remote?
Thanks,
RW Adams

My own feelings about optimizing Leopard are that if it is properly installed on a Mac with no file system problems & 1 GB or greater memory, any tweaks short of radical surgery on the OS will result in very minor improvements in performance.
For instance, you can remove Intel-specific code, non-essential language files, drivers for hardware you don't have, & so on, but the only performance boost you will see is a very small one due to fewer files on the drive. You might notice this for a few disk-intensive operations but chances are you would not notice a perceptible change in day to day use without a stopwatch & good reflexes. IOW, unless your startup drive is getting full, it isn't worth it. Plus, there is always the possibility of removing something required for proper operation, necessitating reinstalling the OS, resulting in a net loss of productive time spent at the computer.
You can find procedures to kill OS features like Spotlight or Widgets, which will free up processor time for other things, but again, this will probably result in a less productive user environment.
Regarding "maintenance" there should be little or no need to do anything unless your Mac slows down over time or exhibits other problems. Most, if not all, so-called maintenance steps are actually troubleshooting & repair steps. They are effective only in correcting problems so there is no point in doing them for any other purpose.
For myself, the only exception to this is cleaning the caches, which I do no more than 3 or 4 times a year. Caches actually make the computer run faster, so just after cleaning them the computer will run slower, but I find that over time they can fill up with enough unused old data that starting afresh results in a modest improvement in responsiveness once they are refilled with current data. IOW, do this too often & the net result is a slower computer but done infrequently there may be a slight benefit.

Clean Install of Tiger or Leopard on PPC Mac Mini?

I have an older PPC G4 Mac Mini (the last one Apple made before they went Intel).
Earlier this year I bought an iMac and transferred everything of interest from the Mini to the iMac. I would now like to wipe-clean the Mini and re-purpose it.
So, my question is in 2 parts:
1) The iMac came with OSX Leopard and I purchased (and installed) OSX Snow Leopard. Can I use the OSX Leopard disc that came with the iMac to install Leopard on the PPC Mac Mini?
2) If I can technically do #1, would I want to? My think is that the OSX Tiger that came with the Mini is a PPC binary while the OSX Leopard would probably wind up being a universal binary. Would this adversely impact performance?

1) The iMac came with OSX Leopard and I purchased (and installed) OSX Snow Leopard. Can I use the OSX Leopard disc that came with the iMac to install Leopard on the PPC Mac Mini?
No. The copy of Mac OS X that came with the iMac is licensed only for use with that system, even though you've upgraded to Snow Leopard.
In addition, it's probably only going to work on an Intel-based Mac and won't even install on your PPC mini. The code may be universal but the installer is probably written to only work with the iMac the disk came with.
If you want Leopard on the PPC mini, you need to purchase a retail copy of Leopard. There should be no performance impact; in fact you may find that Leopard runs a bit faster than Tiger. Leopard will take up a bit more space on the hard drive, though, than did Tiger.
Regards.
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Mac OS X Leopard Server (PPC) "forgets" settings if Server Admin is left on

I'm not sure that I'm posting this question in the right place.
I have a QuickSilver 2001 Power Macintosh G4 (867MHz, 2x120GB PATA hard drives, 1.5GB RAM) running a fully up-to-date copy of Mac OS X Server 10.5.2. The hardware appears to be in good shape. The disks are new and I'm very certain the RAM is good. Apple Hardware Diagnostics finds no problem with the computer itself.
Normally, this system is very reliable. It works as a primary domain controller for Windows PCs. However, if by some chance I forget to close the Server Admin application, and the machine sits for a while without use, Server Admin will claim that "no services are configured" when I return. I also saw this problem on the 10.5 and 10.5.1 releases.
The services really do appear to stop working when this happens. I have Open Directory, DNS, DHCP and SMB configured. All four will stop responding.
Rebooting the computer usually gets the services going again, and Server Admin will then function properly. However, I always have to reconfigure SMB to be a primary domain controller.
Any ideas? Since this is just a test system, I did try wiping the disks and doing a reinstallation. The problem persisted.
I think this may be PowerPC specific, as I have an Intel Mac mini set up much the same way (Mac OS X 10.5.2 server, 4GB RAM, 320GB hard disk) and it does not appear to suffer from this issue.

Yes, I just discovered this problem on my own machine.
I just wanted to check some settings and discovered that the behaviour of the GUI of Server Admin was somewhat "erratic": First this "no services are configured" message. Some of the configured servers were marked with the usual green "up and running" bullet, others dark grey - those were normally configured and running and clicking the appropriate line seemed to force Server Admin to check the actual state and then turned also green. But sometimes configuration pages were "greyed out", or while switching through the tabs Server Admin claimed that where were "unsaved changes" which should be saved (or discarded).
And then SMB: this was light grey, as usual when a service is not running and clicking on it I browsed through the configuration tabs - everything seemed ok (all my settings were correctly shown, configured as PDC with right domain name etc.) - and I started the service. Then suddenly the configuration settings changed to the default settings - no more PDC, but a "standalone server" with workgroup name "WORKGROUP"...
Looks for me, as if Server Admin lost it's "source" file for the configuration (the file in /var/db/smb.conf says, that it is automatically generated -- does somebody were the source file is stored?)...

DigiNotar CA Root - Now we can't use PPC macs anymore?

Hello,
To anyone who can respond to my question.. I just found out that Apple is no longer going to provide security updates to those running Leopard or even Tiger. Its regarding this Digitar CA Root certificate which can have disasterous consequences for us who still use and or enjoy PPC macs. Is there really a need to panic here or is it just me?
I use my Power Mac G5 for everyday stuff while my Mac Pro lies on the floor, dismanteled as I don't know as of yet what to use it for. I am really concerned for my G5 and my information as I heavily use my G5 for everyday tasks. Should I be wary of this certificate in keychain? I followed all the instructions I foind out about this certificate on www.lowendmac.com, but I wonder if my system is still safe now that Apple won't provide security updates anymore to those who still use Leopard?
I set my browsing to Private browsing in Safari 5.0.6, and also deleted the DigiNotar certificate in the keychain manager..
Someone please shed some light on this..
Thanks.
Romko.
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Open Keychain Access
Search for diginotar
Inspect each DigiNotar Root CA certificate (right click > Get Info)
Expand Trust
Set When using this certificate: to Never Trust
Not trusting a certificate should invalidate the complete subsequent keychain of trust but because of the bug in Safari/Mac EV SSL certificates still validate even if signed by an untrusted CA. Until this bug has been confirmed and fixed by Apple the only way to circumvent this problem is to delete all DigiNotar certificates from your keychain.
http://www.io101.org/blog/howto/check-untrust-disable-diginotar-https-ssl-root-c a-certificate-mac-os/
Download a package that will delete the DigiNotar Root CA certificates and will revoke the trust on the two root certificates and the four DigiNotar intermediate certificates. The package is now at version 2.1. Please use this version instead of versions 1.0 and 2.0.
Update (11-Sep-2011 9:35 PM EDT): Apple has finally released an official fix for Snow Leopard and Lion. If you are running Leopard on PPC machines, the version 2.1 package has been tested and works with Leopard. Still no sign of an update for iOS, unfortunately.
http://ps-enable.com/articles/diginotar-revoke-trust
But why use Safari?

Can't kill hung process in Leopard

I am having very annoying issue with Leopard. Time to time some applications get stuck and I can't kill them using "force quit" or command line "kill -9". Most of the times when this happens, I can't log out and start new applications. I cannot even restart the computer cleanly as it cannot log me out cleanly (BTW, is there a force log out or force restart?) Once this happens everything goes downhill and eventually I have to do hard reboot by pressing power off key in the back. That creates another problem. I have a USB external disk that I use as time machine backup. After I do hard reboot and machine boot up, finder thinks that index on the external disk is not up to date and starts indexing it from scratch and takes 2-3 hours. Also, when it starts building index, it spends good 5 minutes or so trying to estimate the index building time. During that time, I cannot search anything on the machine.
I called Apple support twice. First they asked me to do "archive and install". I did that but problems still continued. After that they said do "disk check" and "disk permissions check". "Disk check" didn't show any problem. "Disk permissions check" found many files with permissions problem and they were all fixed. Even after that the problem continues.
I have 4 users on the machine. I am the administrator. Others are limited accounts. I have noticed hang problem with all accounts. On my account it occurs with many processes like Safari, imovie, iPhoto, and even finder. On other accounts I have seen it mostly with Safari. I saw the problem with Safari on other accounts even with Tiger. On other accounts though I am able to kill the application using "force quit" but not on my account.
I think the root cause of all of these is Leopard's inability to force-kill a process. I have a hunch that this happens (not able to kill app in my account) with processes that deal with devices. For example, Iphoto deals with external memory card, Imovie deals with external digital camcorders and so on.
I have an open case with Apple support. I want to see if others are running into same issue.

I was having these very same issues.
I wiped the drive with zeroes and tried to reinstall Leopard from scratch. Install failed. Checked the install DVD, it passed its own test. Verified the hard drive, fine.
Reinstalled Tiger. Everything fine. Tried to upgrade to Leopard, install DVD was again failng.
I did some research.
*It turns out that Leopard on PPC Macs will freak out on many types of third party RAM.*
I removed the aftermarket stick of RAM and Leopard installed just fine and ran fine. No more problems. I put the RAM back in, problems returned.
There you have it. Tiger was fine with the memory, Leopard isn't. And this is for some reason a PPC-specific issue.
Search for:
"The installer could not validate the contents of the ‘base system’ package. Contact software manufacturer for assistance."
Here are two to get you started:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=374917&page=2
http://www.mobrec.com/2007/10/27/leopard-is-damage-if-you-are-on-powerpc-do-not- install/
The key is in realizing that both sets of symptoms occur for some people because they're 'lucky' to get Leopard installed in the first place. If you wipe and install, you get to witness all the behaviors under a controlled experiment (memory in vs out).

Can Leopard Server update Tiger clients?

Can anyone tell me if Leopard server can update the OS of Tiger clients? I know Tiger server can't update Leopard clients, but the other way around?

Hi
Not true. I have a 10.4 OD Master with a managed group using the SUS Service on a 10.5 Server. The 10.5 Server is connected to the 10.4 Directory. DNS Services for both servers are on the 10.4 Server as is the DHCP Service. 10.4 and 10.5 Clients that bind to the 10.4 Server are updated using the 10.5 SUS with no problems at all. The only issue I've seen is 10.5 clients occasionally can't use the 10.5.2 Combo Update on the SUS Server. There is the 'cant expand package properly' error message. At first I thought this was because the latest Intel iMacs were able to update but not Leopard installed PPC models. One solution was to keep a manually downloaded .dmg of the 10.5.2 update on the Server and push it out using ARD or copying it locally and installing it that way. However earlier Intel models - occasionally - are also not updating - pre-dominantly first generation macbooks and macminis but every now and again some of the later Aluminium model iMacs.
This is an intermittent problem though and may be due to the small bandwidth that the SUS server is having to use to access apple's downloads server (1MB). When the SUS was on the 10.4 Server with a higher bandwidth connection (4-5MB) there was never any problems with the downloads but quite a few with the Service stopping itself and having to be restarted using the command line.
The amount downloaded for 10.5 SUS is greater (approx 13-16GB) than 10.4 SUS (approx 10-11GB) - obviously. It took 4-5 days for the 10.5 SUS to make available all the downloaded updates - obviously due to the 1MB connection but also there were problems with accessing the updates server at that time. I think this was because Leopard Server had not long been made available and like a lot others it was in a testing environment where all the services were being tried to see what was worked and what did not.
Tony

Difficulties transferring files between Lion and Leopard

Hello all-
The short: Our two computers running Leopard can transfer files across our home network to all other computers with no problems, and can grab files from other computers with no problems. Our new iMac Lion can't do any of that.
The long: We have recently purchased a new iMac (Lion 10.7.3), and have connected our old 2006 iMac (Leopard 10.5.8) to the TV and stereo (and directly to our B/G/N Airport Extreme) for use primarily as a media server. We also have an MBP (Leopard 10.5.8). All three computers are shared on a home network, and I believe I have set up the sharing and permissions correctly.
From both Leopard computers I can transfer files back and forth, as well as access files on the other and bring them over. Additonally, from both Leopard computers I can do the same while accessing the iMac Lion- either transfer files to it, or connect to it and bring files over. This is what leads me to believe that the sharing is set up correctly.
However, when I am on the iMac Lion and try to do any of these processes with either of the Leopards, I get a confusing set of steps and ultimately, failure.
First, I when I try to transfer or copy a file I get a window asking:
Finder wants to make changes. type your password to allow this.
It automatically fills in the admin username for the iMac Lion. While it is waiting for me to enter the password, a progress bar pops up stating that it is "Preparing to copy to "(Location)", and then I enter the password.
As soon as I enter the password, a new window tells me that:
A newer item named “(filename here)” already exists in this location. Do you want to replace it with the older one you’re moving? (note- this 'file' has just been created, it is the 'newer item', and it contains zero kb of information).
and gives me three options: Keep both files, Stop, or Replace
If I choose Keep both files it immediately begins duplicating the empty version of the file and it will make thousands of duplicates in mere seconds. I must kill Finder in order to make it stop.
If I choose Stop the process simply quits.
If I choose Replace it says The operation can’t be completed because an item with the name “” already exists. (the quotation marks are exactly like that with no filename inbetween).
Summary: I am at a loss as to how to proceed. I cannot seem to find why the iMac Lion cannot do anything to the Leopards, while the Leopards seem to have full abilities, even with the Lion. I have tried turning off AFP and turning on SMB to no avail.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. It is incredibly helpful to be able to share files between our systems, as the iMac Leopard has PPC programs that I cannot install or run on Lion, and so I keep them around in case I need them. Plus, my wife uses the MBP Leopard for specialized research and many of the programs they use do not run with Lion.
Message was edited by: Jeff Sorley

Repairing the permissions of a home folder in Lion is a complicated procedure. I don’t know of a simpler one that always works.
Launch the Terminal application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the page that opens.
Drag or copy — do not type — the following line into the Terminal window, then press return:
chmod -R -N ~
The command will take a noticeable amount of time to run. When a new line ending in a dollar sign ($) appears below what you entered, it’s done. You may see a few error messages about an “invalid argument” while the command is running. You can ignore those. If you get an error message with the words “Permission denied,” enter this:
sudo !!
You'll be prompted for your login password, which won't be displayed when you type it. You may get a one-time warning not to screw up.
Next, boot from your recovery partition by holding down the key combination command-R at startup. Release the keys when you see a gray screen with a spinning dial.
When the recovery desktop appears, select Utilities ▹ Terminal from the menu bar.
In the Terminal window, enter “resetpassword” (without the quotes) and press return. A Reset Password window opens. You’re not going to reset the password.
Select your boot volume if not already selected.
Select your username from the menu labeled Select the user account if not already selected.
Under Reset Home Directory Permissions and ACLs, click the Reset button.
Select  ▹ Restart from the menu bar.

PPC OpenGL 2.0+ ????

So I have a question, why does my powerbook not have the same OpenGL version as the intel systems. Ok, I can understand if it just isnt supported, but I know that a PPC g4 powerbook can run openGL 2.0. So why dont we have it yet. After doing some research it looks like Apple will be adding it in Leopard for PPC. I'm happy to hear that but why not in 10.4. Why do I have to pay $99 dollars to get an update that the Intels have already? (obviously there is much more to 10.5 then openGL for the $99, i know that)
Please enlighten me.
Is there a way to get that little 2.0 intel update on my PPC?

Do you have the intel graphics chip? I believe that they only support up to opengl 1.5, even though they do support some components of 2.0 but not all of it. So you are out of luck.

Comments on Leopard Cache Cleaner?

Does anyone recommend the Leopard Cache Cleaner? I run 2 machines with Tiger, one with Leopard, both PPC and intel. Just before I install it I thought I'd ask . . .
Thanks

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How to upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard

My brother recently donated his imac(Tiger version) and bought a new Mac with snow leopard already installed. So I cleaned up my new imac with a fresh install and tried to upgrade it to snow leopard but no to avail.
popped in snow leopard (upgrade disc) -> installer rebooted -> i selected the language -> then Error: "Mac OS X Cannot be installed on this computer"
Anyone can help me? Thank you.

Toocool4 wrote:
Yes like V.K. said a retail copy is your best bet, but still check that you have an Intel Mac before you spend money on a new copy of Snow Leopard.
a PPC mac wouldn't be able to even boot from a Snow leopard DVD. as the OP has gotten as far as booting from the DVd it means he has an intel mac.

Updated to 10.5.5 - now beachball freeze forcing hard restart

A week ago I ran the update to 10.5.5 through Software update, along with several other things (security, itunes). I started getting the spinning beachball, and it's not letting me quit application or force quit anything, I have to do a hard restart.
I dug through these forums and found a potential solution. Download and run the combo update, then reinstall itunes through the download. Did both. Still getting the beachball.
Triggers: It seems to do it every time when I open a PDF made from an Open Office document (opening in Preview). Today it crashed just attempting to open Open Office 3.0 beta. Later it crashed just trying to open the Adobe Acrobat Reader application folder.
I just ran permission repairs. It looked like it repaired somethings, mostly relating to Airport (which I'm not using on this computer).
Any ideas?

There is a major problem with the PDFkit system component.
I have exactly the same problem here. My PDF file is generated by my HP ScanJet device.
The PDFs work well on Adobe Reader on both Mac and PC with no indication for an invalid PDF file.
The files also work well on Tiger (intel/PPC).
Also other files downloaded from the internet are affected.
Just Leopard on intel seems to be affected so far. I am not sure about Leopard on PPC.
It does not matter whether you are having a preview with QuickLook or opening it in Preview.
The interesting thing is that when you run Preview using Rosetta, then the system does not get unresponsive. But this trick does not apply to QuickLook since this is not a stand alone application.
Is there a way to disable QuickLook?

Text in PDFs sometimes looks/prints wrong on OS X but is OK in Windows

For a couple years now I've been hit with a problem with PDFs (in both OS X Tiger and Leopard, on PPC Macs and Intel Macs). Simply put, some PDFs simply look and print better on Windows. I hate that because I want to print them on my Mac and have the hardcopy print with all the text looking as it should. I shouldn't have to fire up a Windows machine to accomplish this!
For example, the PDFs generated by TurboTax Online, and the datasheets on Microchip.com exhibit this problem. Please view this PDF in Safari 4 or in OS 10.5's Preview:
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/00594B.PDF
Now view it in Windows and you will see that the body text on the Mac is outrageously bold in comparison. And yes, it will print BOLD too on the Mac. Of course, if you have Acrobat 9 for OS X, you will find that the body text is normal (not bold). But not all PDFs can be viewed "as expected" simply by using Acrobat 9 instead of Apple's Preview as I shall now explain.
All TurboTax Online generated PDFs and some US government PDFs (such as passport applications) are problematic. With these PDFs (especially TurboTax Online), most lowercase "r's" are horizontally compressed and fonts too bold on the Mac, regardless of whether you view the file in Safari, Preview or Acrobat 9 on OS 10.5. And I tried downloading those PDFs from different browsers too, but that didn't matter. But when I view those same PDFs on Windows, everything looks fine (no excessive bolding of text, and no compressed "r" characters).
I've grown tired of using Windows to get around this problem in OS X. Can someone please help?
Thank you!

In terms of the fonts contained in the PDF itself, yes, I am indeed getting different PDF files depending on whether I download them on a Windows PC or on a Mac running OS X.
Yes, I can copy the PDF to the Mac (running OS X), which was originally downloaded on the PC (and looks fine on the PC). And when I view that PDF (again, the one originally downloaded on the PC) in OS X, it looks fine. And if I take the same PDF which was downloaded originally on OS X and then display it on the PC, I can see the font problems on the PC. So the ticket to success, sadly, is that I have to use a PC to download some PDFs or suffer font problems.
For example, I have two versions of the same PDF saved on my Intel iMac. I downloaded both from TurboTax Online, but one was downloaded on the PC and the other on my Mac. The one that was downloaded on the PC looks great and prints great (and is the one I printed and submitted to the IRS). Opening both in Acrobat 9 (on the Mac), I then go to the File menu and choose "Properties" and then view the "Fonts Used in this Document."
The PDF that was generated on the PC (the one that looks perfect) uses 7 fonts (all marked with a red, lower case "a" graphic to the left of them in Acrobat):
Courier
Helvetica
Helvetica-Bold
Helvetica-BoldOblique
Helvetica-Narrow
Helvetica-Narrow-Bold
Helvetica-Oblique
QuickTypePi (Embedded)
But the other PDF, which I downloaded in OS X (the one that has messed up lowercase r's), uses the following 29 fonts (yes, some do look like duplicates, but this is exactly how they show in Acrobat 9):
(These have a "TT" document icon to the left of them in Acrobat)
Courier (Embedded Subset)
Courier (Embedded Subset)
Helvetica (Embedded Subset)
Helvetica (Embedded Subset)
Helvetica-Bold (Embedded Subset)
Helvetica-Bold (Embedded Subset)
(And these have a red, lower case "a" graphic to the left of them in Acrobat)
Helvetica-BoldOblique
Helvetica-Oblique
HelveticaLTMM10001 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM1000134 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM1000267 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM100068 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM134867 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM1800 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM2011 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM2011000 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM201134 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM201201 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM201267 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM201334 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM201401 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM201534 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM201667 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM201867 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM201933 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM68800 (Embedded Subset)
HelveticaLTMM68867 (Embedded Subset)
QuickTypePi (Embedded Subset)
QuickTypePi (Embedded Subset)
So why then does simply downloading the same PDF on the Mac (running OS X) cause a font mess?
To simply say "the font producer" is at fault does not give a technical explanation on why this is happening. And it is not like TurboTax is a small company other. Also, I get similar problems when downloaded some US government PDFs, so it's hard for me to see how the "producer" is at fault here. Something is screwy in the Mac OS, hence my post here to find out what is at fault, and then get it fixed (if possible).
Thanks,
James

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