Leopard Server on Dual 800MHz G4?

Sorry if this is a repost, I tried searching around for a while and couldn't find an answer to this...
I'm looking to install OS X Server on an old dual 800MHz G4 tower. I was just wondering if the install would allow it, because the clock speeds are below the minimum requirement, even though it's got 2 of them.
Thanks in advance,
J

No, Leopard's CPU speed restriction applies to a single processor. Your computer does not meet the requirement. You could look for a CPU upgrade for your model (check sonnettech.com) but you should know that Apple does not support CPU upgrades. Now that doesn't mean Leopard won't run on an upgraded machine, it means that if you have any problems with Leopard on an upgraded machine, Apple provides no support and does not guarantee that Leopard will work on an upgraded machine. However, the vendors selling the upgrades can confirm compatibility (at least with Leopard Client. I don't know if they test the Server version.)
You will need to weigh the differences between the cost of upgrading the computer versus buying a new or newer model with a faster processor.

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