Leopard wireless issue and responsibility

I've seen a bunch of posts here saying that the wireless problem many are having with Leopard isn't a 10.5 software issue--it's a hardware/third party issue, and Leopard is merely exposing a fault with routers or whatever.
I just wanted to say that even if that's true, it's Apple's responsibility. I've seen many posts where folks say they can connect with Windows and Tiger, but not with Leopard. If there's a router flaw that only shows up with Leopard, and not with Tiger or Windows, even if it's technically not Leopard's fault, it makes Apple look bad, and could hurt their reputation. If I was an IT person at a place with many Windows and Mac machines, and Leopard breaks the wireless while Tiger and Windows continue to work, I wouldn't get rid of the routers, I'd get rid of Leopard (again, even if technically Leopard isn't at fault).
Also, does anyone know definitively if the fault lies with Leopard or not? If anyone has any hard evidence either way, please provide it. I think there's a lot of speculating going on.

Jimtron wrote:
I've seen a bunch of posts here saying that the wireless problem many are having with Leopard isn't a 10.5 software issue--it's a hardware/third party issue, and Leopard is merely exposing a fault with routers or whatever.
I just wanted to say that even if that's true, it's Apple's responsibility. I've seen many posts where folks say they can connect with Windows and Tiger, but not with Leopard. If there's a router flaw that only shows up with Leopard, and not with Tiger or Windows, even if it's technically not Leopard's fault, it makes Apple look bad, and could hurt their reputation. If I was an IT person at a place with many Windows and Mac machines, and Leopard breaks the wireless while Tiger and Windows continue to work, I wouldn't get rid of the routers, I'd get rid of Leopard (again, even if technically Leopard isn't at fault).
Also, does anyone know definitively if the fault lies with Leopard or not? If anyone has any hard evidence either way, please provide it. I think there's a lot of speculating going on.
i was pretty mad when i started dropping signals and getting the "self-assigned ip" message from my d-link router after the 10.5.2 update.
but then i went out today and bought an apple airport extreme base station. i can't believe how easy it was to configure. i was up and running in 5 minutes or less.
and now my connection is stable (so far, anyway) and my download speed has jumped by a massive amount. yesterday, i was downloading a .dmg file and my transfer rate was 46 KB/s. i tried the same download just now and it was over 1.2 MB/s. i'm sure that's not the average speed boost, but it was certainly significant.
as for responsibility - well, yes, apples should play well with others. but now that i have an apple router - if i ever have to call applecare, at least they can't blame it on a 3rd party router!

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