Let PSCS5 Manage Color or Deskjet Printer?

I can't seem to get predictable color when printing from PS.
What do I need to do to set everything correctly?
Details:
Monitor: Dell 2410
Calibration: Dell factory Adobe RGB
Color profile: Adobe RGB
If Photoshop manages color shadows are too dark with a severe green cast.
If the printer manages the color shadows are too dark and much more saturated than the image.
Do I need to find a profile for the printer? for the monitor?
thanks
gZ

I kind of equated "better" with "more accurate" to the image. Indeed, I get a very good match from the printer to my document colors. This particular printer has always delivered a good match for me, from XP to Vista now to Windows 7. The paper stacking mechanism broke a long time ago, but as long as I print one page at a time it still works.
You say you're not getting a good match to the color in your images... Perhaps we can discuss this further...
What printer is it, specifically, and what cartridges does it use? (My 932c uses 45 and 78 HP cartridges).
What document profile describes the image you're printing from (I'm printing primarily from sRGB)?
What paper are you printing on (I'm actually using HP Premium Plus glossy paper)?
Is your monitor calibrated (can't recall whether you said it was in the other thread)?
Is there an overall color cast to the print?
Are there any particular colors you're seeing diverge a lot (e.g., blues)?
Perhaps not every HP printer will deliver equivalent performance. I knew I had found a gem way back.
Just for fun I'm going to try printing several images from documents of different profiles, just to ensure I'm not just lucky that I'm getting a good match with sRGB documents alone.
-Noel

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Managing color - Photoshop vs printer

I'm using a Canon Pixma MP950, printing out of Photoshop on Canon's pro paper. When I choose to have Photoshop manage colors and select the profile for the printer/paper combination I'm using the results are WAY off. When I simply let the printer manage colors I get results very close to those on screen. Why would this be? I thought that by choosing a profile that actually matched my printer and paper I'd get more accurate results, not less. Also, if I send this image to a professional printer will their results be more likely to match the 'printer manages color' version (that looks like what I see on screen) or the 'Photoshop manages color' that's giving me such off-base colors?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Make sure that you turn off color management in the Printer when Photoshop manages color.
This article describes how to do it for Canon i960, but the setup for MP950 may include similar settings: (I know that IP4200 and IP6700 contain similar set-up screens.)
http://www.steves-digicams.com/techcorner/June_2005.html
In Photoshop's Print dialog, click Page Setup and set the printer as follows:
Main Tab:
Media Type: to match the paper you are using
Print Quality: Custom, press SET command button and move Quality Slider to the right as far as it goes (depends on paper you have chosen), Halftoning - Click Diffusion (on right)
Color Intensity: Manual.
Click Set command button next to Color Intensity.
Uncheck Enable ICM (Windows Image Color Management).
Print Type: None
Click Effects Tab, and make sure all boxes are unchecked.

Managing colors for perfecct printing not working

Hi all,
I think I have tried everything and all my prints look exactly the same (different from what is on the screen) so if anyone could help, it would be great! (This is a thank you pic for all the people who came to my wedding!). In all the of pictures, it seems like there is too much yellow and they miss some of the saturation.
For this specific shot, the camera was a Digital Rebel XT. My printer is a Canon IP4300. My screen was calibrated with a Spider Express2 using a gamma of 2.2. Oh, my screen is a 23'' cinema display.
First try:
I used the Spider2Express color profile for my screen, in aperture I setted the color profile to system managed and in the printer setting, I disabled the color correction in the color option tab.
Second try:
screen color profile: Cinema HD
Aperture profile: system managed
disabled color correction
Third try:
screen color profile: Spider2Express
Aperture: Canon IJ Color printer profile 2005
disabled color correction
I also played with the black point compensation and it didnt change anything in the output.
Also, when I play with the onscreen proofing I cant see any changes between these profiles: spider2express, Cinema HD and the oen from the printer. If there is one, it is too small for me to notice.
Finaly, the print preview all look exactly as what was on the screen.
I really dont understant where the problem can be so any help would be great!

Hi Alan,
I'll give it a bash to help,
firstly you'll have calibrated your monitor with the spider express and it'll have created a profile. Your display should be set outside of aperture to use this profile. Go to system pref's, displays, select the colour tab and select the profile spider created. This gives your display the profile to use in all applications.
Next If your using photo paper there may be a profile for the printer / paper combination from the paper manufacturer, check their web site. I use Ilford and have downloaded the profile for my Canon i9950 & classic pearl and installed it. This profile then appears in the view, proofing profile within aperture. You should not really use on screen proofing untill after you've made all your image adjustments and then finally use on screen proofing to check for posterisation and colour saturation.
So now on to printing, Perhaps the profile you've downloaded suggests a default paper type to use such as (seeing as it's a canon printer) photo paper plus glossy or photo paper pro and if to use black point compensation or not. We need to keep these settings in mind when we enter the print menu. Best thing to do is copy the sample single image preset and rename it to the paper type and size your using. Then in the print settings for that newly created profile you'll see a button for printer settings, select it and you'll be presented with another menu for printer settings. In the 3rd drop down menu form the top select colorsync, color conversion = standard and quartz filter = none.
then select quality and media from the 3rd drop down and select the recommended paper type in the profile you downloaded (it's normally photo paper plus glossy) and change print mode to top quality photo.
Next again in the 3rd dropdown select colour options and set colour correction = none.
Next go to special effects and make sure no options are selected and click done.
You're back in the print menu, select the paper size you are using and the orentation. In the colorsync profile select the profile name for your paper and you may click black point compensation if required. Note the gamma setting usualy set at 1, and your print resolution, I normally have use best DPI selected. Now save this as the renamed paper type you copied at the start.
Next is to run off a test print making sure you select this new paper settings in the print window and see how it looks. If you notice it's a little dark go back and adjust the gamma to say 1.15 to 1.20 and try again. Don't forget to save your adjustments.
As you use different papers and sizes you create these settings and just simply select the required ones for the print size / paper type your using at print time.
This is how I work and it gives good results. Also if your getting dark results all the time consider reducing the lumanance of your display from a recomended 120 / 140 Cdm to something less like 90 / 100 cdm. The apple displays can run a little "bright" for printing giving the impression of dark prints when compared to the screen.
Best of luck
Eoin

Printing from Photoshop to EpsonR3000 on MacOSX.8.5 on photoshop manages colors I cannot print with matte black ink

Because it doesnt recognise the matte paper selection and defaults to glossy. If I select matte black ink at the printer manually and send to print, it will not print amd asks for black ink to be switched to photo black. Help! I've spoken to Epson and switched the printer once and they have demonstrated it works in Preview and say talk to Adobe.

Tom-Rockwell wrote:
I think you need to re-install the Epson print driver. I've seen this issue with upgrades to Lion, too.
Yup, its the Gutenprint driver that replaced the Epson driver. As you say, reinstall the correct driver from Epson. Then NEVER let Apple’s Software Update ever update drivers (that’s the kiss of death).

Epson R1900 Color Issues Only Printing From Lightroom

Hi all - my first post here thought I've been reading this forum since I purchased 1.1 a while back. I'm using 1.4.1 with XP Home, service pack 3. I've had very few issues with this release (which is why I haven't jumped to 2.X yet). To date, I've occasionally printed snapshots with an HP 1115, but most printing has been through labs.
I recently purchased an Epson R1900 and I've been unable to get colors to print remotely correct through Lightroom. It looks to me like the color is getting managed twice, regardless of the settings I use. The R1900 driver allows a preview before actually printing, and the colors it shows are always off by a lot, regardless of whether I let Lightroom manage color or the printer.
Other less sophisticated programs do not have this problem. I can print a JPEG image through Windows Photo Printing Wizard or a pdf through Adobe Reader with much closer correlation to the monitor. Prints from the HP 1115 are comparatively much lower quality, but through Lightroom or other applications, color is within reason. I'm assuming there are others that are successfully using this printer with Lightroom running on Windows XP. Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I solved my color problem by updating the printer driver to version 6.60. When I discovered that a newer driver was available I had attempted to update it but it would not install correctly. I contacted Epson for help, but only received links to non-relevant information. I eventually determined that using MSCONFIG to keep all nonessential programs from starting would allow the driver to correctly install. Simply shutting down all user launched programs and my virus software was insufficient.
Prints are definitely on the dark side, but I've been able to compensate as Dan has suggested. Otherwise, I am quite pleased with the prints it produces on Epson Premium Glossy, and am looking forward to experimenting with other papers and ICC profiles. Thanks all for your help and suggestions.

Managing Color with LR and the Canon Pixma Pro 9000 10.1.2.0 printer driver

I would like help understanding how to manage color in LIghtroom with the Canon Pro 9000 10.1.2.0 printer driver. When I ask LR to manage color in the Printing Module Color Management Profile, it warns me to turn off the printer managing color. But I cannot find where to do this in the driver.
The Color Options menu in the driver gives an additional choice for "Color Mode", but there are no choices here except "Standard", "Linear" or "Tone". The only Canon documentation I can find shows a choice to turn off printer management here, but this driver doesn't give me that choice.
If I look in the driver's "Color Matching", I see only two choices: ColorSync or Vendor Matching. ColorSync brings up Canon profiles like "Pro9000 Fine Art Photo Rag", but selecting one of these gives a warning of unexpected results. This pushes me back to Vendor Matching. But is this turning off the printer driver and leaving it to Lightroom?
Right now, I am getting the best results from choosing "Managed by Printer" in LR's Color Management Profile, and setting "Color Matching" in the Canon driver to "Vendor Matching". If I instead choose one of the Canon profiles in LR's Color Management Profile (and it tells me to turn off the printer managing, which I cannot do), then my prints have a slightly bluer color cast.
Is there a way to turn off the printer managing color in this driver and turn this over to LR, or am I getting the best results possible with the printer managing color anyway?
I am using a 2.4 GHz Intel iMac with OS 10.5.4, 2 gigs SDRAM, standard ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro video card. I downloaded the Canon printer driver from their website, so I assume this is the latest. there is another driver available at their website, but for a lower bit depth. Should I abandon the 10.1.2.0 for this other one? I work with Nikon D300 NEFs, and I assumed the higher bit depth printer driver will work better with these images.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Dear DYP: Unfortunately, those choices are not available in the 10.1.2.0 Canon Printer driver. There are only 2 radio buttons, ColorSync and Vendor Matching. ColorSync then provides a drop-down menu, with no choice for turning off the printer driver.
But I think I found the answer. I found a deeply buried FAQ on the Canon site (no direct URL; sorry!) Here it says:
"Issue: How do I disable the printer driver color correction when using the CUPS driver in Mac OS X 10.5.x?
Solution: Change color management options for printing (Mac OS X 10.5.x)
Change color management options for printing
Open the document you wish to print.
Click 'File' and then click 'Print.'
Note: If the Print window contains only two pop-up menus, click the triangle beside the Printer pop-up menu for expanded options.
Select 'Color Matching' from the Print Options pop-up menu.
Select 'ColorSync' if you want the application you are using, and not the printer driver, to control the color management of the printed output.
Note: If you are using Adobe Photoshop CS2 or CS3 and have selected 'Let Photoshop Determine Colors', the 'Color Matching' from the Print Options pop-up menu is automatically set to 'ColorSync.'
Select 'Vendor Matching' if you want the printer driver to control the color management of the printed output."
I tried it, and chose "Automatic" as a choice in ColorSync. The choices under "Color Options" are then greyed out, implying that the Canon driver is now turned off.
The prints came out great, with no color cast, and a little brighter than the printer managed prints.
So, Vendor Managed means printer manages, ColorSync means LR manages.
Thanks, everyone, for keeping me going on tracking this down!

HP Photosmart 7525: Let Aperture or Photoshop manage color

I use a MacBook Pro with the latest software updates, along with Apple Aperture, Photoshop CS6, and a host of other plug in photo editing programs. I do exensive photo and color editing with these programs, and I calibrate my monitor regularly. So, obviously, I would like my prints to look exactly as they do on screen. I do most of my printing from Aperture. The problem is, there is no option I can find in the Aperture (and photosmart 7525) printing software that allows me to choose "let computer manage color". The only option I get is "let printer manage color" when I print from Apetture (or Photoshop). When I have made numerous color changes with my editing software, and the printer manages color, the printer changes everything, so that the final product looks nothing like my on screen photos. The question is: Using the 7525 and Apple Aperture, how do I let the computer manage color?

Welcome to the forums Steven,
I read your post about the color quality concerns you have with your photos. My best suggestion would be to follow the troubleshooting steps for a print quality issue with the printer and if that does not help, to post this concern on the Apple Support forums to see about a better answer about the Aperture program you are using.
Fixing Ink Streaks, Faded Prints, and Other Common Print Quality Problems
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Printing color Swatches for printer profiling in Photoshop

This is the crime scene:
I have two printers, a 9800 and a 9880. I want to profile them both with the i1 PRO and EYE-One Match Software. Half of the archive is in Kodachrome Slides scanned into Adobe RGB (a while ago); RAW files worked in ProPhoto. ALL we use is premium luster 260.
I want to print the color swatches and dont know what option to chose in photoshop to print them: Let Printer Manage Colors, or, on the other side, select "Let Photoshop Manage colors" and Adobe RGB as profile and create a printer Profile that I will use to print the Adobe RGB slide images; and print the swatches again with "let photoshop..." and Prophoto as profile and use the created with those swatches to print the RAW Prophoto images.
or else.
Thanks so much for your time and help!

You need to choose the "No Color Management" option in the first print dialog and then in the Epson portion, you need to choose your paper type under Paper Settings and then choose No Color Adjustment in very next dialog box. That way you are sending pure unadulterated RGB to the printer.

Bad photo prints on HP Color LaserJet CP5225dn Printer

Hey all,
Having an issue outputting photos on my new HP Color LaserJet P5225dn printer from Adobe products. Am curious if anyone else might have run across the same issue and possibly found a solution. Here's the background information...
Running Windows 8.1 Pro.
HP Envy Phoenix w/Intel core i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz
32 GB RAM
2TB Raid 0 HD
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640
Spyder-profiled HP Pavilion 25xi monitors (dual setup)
Running Adobe Creative Cloud (latest builds--issue present in prior versions, too).
Using HP Universal Print Driver PS (latest version--only option on Windows 8), but have tried PCL 4 and 5 drivers as well.
When printing from Adobe products, any photo seems to print without the yellow color. Color swatches and vector files print correctly. This issue seems to only apply to raster images--greens print blue, browns print purple, oranges print magenta. I have had HP support out to examine hardware of printer and everything checks out.
I have tried every combination of ICC profile, paper setting imaginable. Have tried printing as CMYK and RGB. Have reset preferences in Adobe software. Color issues are present in InDesign, Photoshop, and Illustrator, and the images print consistently off in all products (is purple in INDD is also purple in PSD, etc.). I have reset printer to defaults. I have tried removing color management and printing. I have tried printer diagnostics. I have tried having the printer manage color. I have tried having the application manage color. Everything prints consistently wrong.
I've updated video drivers, searched for ICC profiles specific to the printer, recalibrated monitors, no dice. Funny thing is that when you take that same file and send it to another printer, it prints accurately.
Any ideas for troubleshooting are much appreciated. Any solutions would be fantastic.
Matt

Yeah, tried printing from PDF and image issues persist. I'm not sure what's going on if everything checks out from hardware standpoint. Appreciate your suggestions though.
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Color inconsistency when printing

I have an Epson 1400 printer. Sometimes I can have good prints and other times they look bad. I have found that Epson only likes Epson paper and inks, but there still is a problem.
I use PSE8 and if I do just the opposite of what Adobe advises, I print fine and almost any paper. I have to shut off the PSE color management and use the printers. Am I doing something wrong or do I just not understand all the stuff in PSE. Appreciate any help.

First, make sure you have the Epson printer-paper profiles downloaded into your computer. The chances are good that they are because when you downloaded the printer driver, the profiles should have also loaded.
Second, in the PSE Editor, make sure you have a photo displayed that you want to print. Then, in the File menu, select Print. In the box that comes up, select More options....Then, select Color Managment. In the box to the right, in Color Handling:, select Photoshop Elements manages color. In Printer Profile: select the type of paper you're using, such as PremiumGlossyPhotopaper. This should follow the name of your printer, so one of the many choices should read something like Stylus Photo 1400 printer, PremiumGlossyPhotopaper. If you don't see your paper, then you'll need to download their profiles, either from the CD-ROM that came with your printer or from Epson's website. Assuming that you found your paper, next go to Rendering Intent: and select Relative Colorimetric. Next, click on Printer Preferences, which takes you to the printer's dialog box. Once there, select the paper you're using, such as Premium Photo Paper Glossy. Finally, be sure that No Color Adjustment or ICM appears in one of the settings boxes. Now try printing and see what happens.
The chances are good that the colors will be pretty close to what you see on your monitor, but the print may be too dark or too light (usually too dark). What you need to do next is calibrate your monitor. Perhaps the cheapest way is to buy Pantone's Huey Pro for about $90. It's a little spectrometer that you stick on your monitor and, when you activate the accompanying Huey software, it automatically makes the monitor accurately display the colors. You have to manually adjust brightness and contrast using little comparative circles that Huey displays on the monitor. Unfortunately, with today's LCD monitors, this can be pretty hard to do. However, you should be able to get into the ballpark and you can hone in of the correct brightness and contrast adjustments by making several prints until you get one that's pretty close to what you see on the monitor.
Hope this helps. Maybe someone else can chime in with a simpler explanation; I'd love to see one.

Photoshop CS3 manages colors

I want to disable color management by HP Photosmart C7282 All-in-One printer

Print-> Photoshop Manages Colors to choose an ICC color profile, there would be a companion Output box, where I could drag the Transfer slider
"Photoshop Manages Colors" disables the printer sliders under CS6 Photoshop
a proper Source-to-Print conversion should 'match' your monitor
just for grins try reviewing the updates/troubleshooting/workflow here: printing CS6
also recommend using a known good file like the PDI WhackedRGB reference file available on my link...

CS5 print dlg reverts to 'Photoshop Manages Colors'

Hello! I'm struggling with the Print dialog box in CS5 (12.0.4 x64). I want to apply printer color adjustments to a print job. I choose 'Printer Manages Colors' then open the Print Settings dialog for the printer, make the changes I want then click OK. On returning to the Photoshop Print dialog I see that where I had chosen 'Printer Manages Colors' has reverted to 'Photoshop Manages Colors.' If I open the printer properties dialog again I find the settings set to default rather than to the settings I had just previously selected.
FYI, under Printer Profile in the Photoshop Print dialog the printer's ICM profile is selected.
Any idea what is happening? What more information can I furnish here that would be helpful?
My system configuration is:
MOTHERBOARD ASUS P8P67 Deluxe LGA (P67 B3 Rev)
CPU Intel BX80623I72600K Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost)
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GPU ZOTAC ZT-40503-10L GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
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External Drive WD My Book 3.0 2 TB USB 3.0
Keyboard Rosewill Cherry MX Switch (Brown) Mechanical Keyboard
Monitor NEC LCD2190 UXi LCD 'twist' tech 1600 x 1200 ppi.
Printer Epson Stylus Photo R280

you have a choice of Color Sync or Epson (on a Mac
in the "Photoshop Manages Colors" work flow, you shouldn't be concerning yourself with ColorSync (or Epson controls)
you do have Adobe (ACE) set as the Conversion Options: Engine (in Ps Edit> Color Settings> More Options> Conversion Options )?
but let me go over the basic framework of this workflow in CS5:
it may be a wise move to delete your printer from Print & Fax and add it back (as well as updating to the latest driver)
1) Open a copy of WhackedRGB PDI test image in Photoshop
USE THE EMBEDDED PROFILE (do not convert)
confirm the "Document Profile" in the lower-left corner of Ps window
2) File> Print will pull up this window (below)
DOCUMENT PROFILE is WhackedRGB.icc
PRINTER PROFILE is your specific printer/paper/ink ICC profile
RENDERING INTENT (try Perceptual)
BLACK POINT COMPENSATION (try checking this)
if you are using CS6 be sure to uncheck 16-bit color
3) click on Printer Settings... and Printer Settings> Basic to pull up the following screenshot
Media Type is the "type" of paper surface (not an ICC profile)
Color Mode: Off (No Color Management) should be grayed (using Photoshop Manages Colors)
AT THIS POINT HITTING SAVE> PRINT is the correct move to start the printing
you don't need to monkey around the other areas under this basic tutorial
if you want to look at Advanced Color Settings to verify driver color management is "off" (for all practical purposes) -- click on Color Settings and confirm:
here is a more complete EPSON CS5 PRINTING TUTORIAL using an older version of the Epson 7880 print driver
here is a more complete EPSON CS6 PRINTING TUTORIAL
i hope this helps...

Printing from CS5, Photoshop Manages Colors

I only do photo quality prints to Epson matte a few times a year so I run test prints with various settings to get what I want. My granddaughters wanted some prints from a web site framed and my wife wanted prints of an emailed photo of their old mountain cabin. I had to do some color manipulation of the cabin, but the web site images had been expertly processed and all I had to do was print properly. I experimented with the cabin image print settings. Epson changed the names of all their papers, so the Epson print profiles in the print dialog didn't match the name on the matte paper box. I deciphered that, but I wasn't happy with the result so I tried two of the other Epson profiles and hated it. There's quite a long list of profiles available, some specific, and some just conventional color spaces like sRGB, aRGB. For the heck of it I tried Pro Photo RGB as a printer to paper profile. The print of the cabinimage with an embedded aRGB profile was everything I could want. I did the web site sRGB images the samwe way and they were really nice.
The puzzle is this: What does using Pro Photo RGB as an instruction to the printer cocerning what it is printing to thru Photoshop even mean? The printer has never heard of the colors possible in Pro Photo, and the source image is in sRGB ( verified by Photoshop). I can conceive that an RAW image should be rendered as aRGB for inkjet and that the inkjet has some blues that are outside the aRGB, but I can't understand telling an inkjet to use Pro Photo to print sRGB.
Maybe gator soup knows what I'm trying to get at.

you have a choice of Color Sync or Epson (on a Mac
in the "Photoshop Manages Colors" work flow, you shouldn't be concerning yourself with ColorSync (or Epson controls)
you do have Adobe (ACE) set as the Conversion Options: Engine (in Ps Edit> Color Settings> More Options> Conversion Options )?
but let me go over the basic framework of this workflow in CS5:
it may be a wise move to delete your printer from Print & Fax and add it back (as well as updating to the latest driver)
1) Open a copy of WhackedRGB PDI test image in Photoshop
USE THE EMBEDDED PROFILE (do not convert)
confirm the "Document Profile" in the lower-left corner of Ps window
2) File> Print will pull up this window (below)
DOCUMENT PROFILE is WhackedRGB.icc
PRINTER PROFILE is your specific printer/paper/ink ICC profile
RENDERING INTENT (try Perceptual)
BLACK POINT COMPENSATION (try checking this)
if you are using CS6 be sure to uncheck 16-bit color
3) click on Printer Settings... and Printer Settings> Basic to pull up the following screenshot
Media Type is the "type" of paper surface (not an ICC profile)
Color Mode: Off (No Color Management) should be grayed (using Photoshop Manages Colors)
AT THIS POINT HITTING SAVE> PRINT is the correct move to start the printing
you don't need to monkey around the other areas under this basic tutorial
if you want to look at Advanced Color Settings to verify driver color management is "off" (for all practical purposes) -- click on Color Settings and confirm:
here is a more complete EPSON CS5 PRINTING TUTORIAL using an older version of the Epson 7880 print driver
here is a more complete EPSON CS6 PRINTING TUTORIAL
i hope this helps...

Print and Softproof colors are bad for "Application managed color"

Hello... Not sure if my problem is a Mac OS X issue, or a Lightroom issue. Either way I hope it is just user error.
While printing, my prints look good using "printer managed color", both preview and printed output look good. I am used to using "application managed color" and am getting very poor colors, in both the preview and the printed output.
I am somewhat familiar with color management, and understand the basic concepts of profiles.
I have a new iMac 20" display, that is calibrated. I am printing on a HP 8450. It appears that both the printer and LR are trying to manage my color when I am trying to do a "application managed color" print. Not being familiar with OS X, I have not been able to determine how to disable the color management of my printer driver.
If anyone has any suggestions, please help... I have been fighting this off and on all day...
One other thing... off topic, but if anyone knows how to adjust a 20" iMac 20 RGB values, please let me know. I can't see how to manually adjust the individual channels.
Thanks, Mike

Well, it sounds like you are not getting all your ducks in a row on setting up LR for "application managed color". There aresome excellent step by steps in one or two other threads. A key point is using the individual icc profile for the specific paper not the generic.
To properly calibrate you Monitor you should use a Calibration device, like a Spyder not tweek the numbers by hand/eye.
It is just user error.
Don
Don Ricklin, MacBook 1.83Ghz Duo 2 Core running 10.4.9 & Win XP, Pentax *ist D
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Color Management and Canon i960 printer

When I go to print from Aperture it says to turn off the Canon color management driver. How do I do this?

It depends on the printer driver. My Epson driver has a special, color section. However my simple Canon pixma doesn't have this. It either automatically turns color management off (in PS and Aperture) Or you have to use a workaround (when printing form e.g. Illustrator) By selecting the sRGB profile in the colorsync tab.
So you're best option at this point is to contact Canon support: Luckily for you, they describe how to print using ICC-profiles on their website:
How to use custom profiles in printing
For printing using a custom, user-made or third-party profiles, follow the procedures below. ColorSync color processing based on the custom profile can be performed by the application, or by the printer driver.
1. Specifying an ICC Profile within an Application
2. Open the image you want to print in an application. Edit/retouch the image as needed.
3. Check that the correct ICC profile has been assigned, select the item that allows the application to manage colors, then specify the profile for printing. For example, from the Print or Print with Preview screen of Adobe Photoshop, select 'Photoshop Manages Colors', then select a profile as the printer profile. At this time, please clear the 'Black Point Compensation' checkbox.
The ICC profiles installed for Canon photo paper appear as follows.
Note: The profile names for other manufacturers' papers will appear differently.
(For example: Canon Pro9000 PR1)
(1) Printer model name
(2) Media type
Each letter pair represents its respective Media type.
PR = Canon Photo Paper Pro and Pro II
SP: = Canon Photo Paper Plus Glossy
MP: = Canon Matte Photo Paper
SG: = Canon Photo Paper Plus Semi-gloss
GL: = Canon Photo Paper Plus Glossy II
PT: = Canon Photo Paper Pro Platinum
Note: If your printer does not support one of the above paper types, the corresponding profile will not be installed. Please see the on-screen manual of your printer for supported paper types.
(3) Print quality
The numbers correspond to the numbers on the print quality slide bar in the [Quality & Media] dialog box opened from the Print screen of the driver. The lower the number, the finer the quality.
4. Select the command to print from your application to bring up the Print screen.
In Mac OS X 10.5 and 10.6, select Color Matching from the drop-down menu, and then select 'ColorSync'.
Note: If you are using Adobe Photoshop CS2 or newer and have selected 'Let Photoshop Determine Colors', the 'Color Matching' from the Print Options pop-up menu is automatically set to 'ColorSync.'
Using earlier versions of Mac OS X, from the Print dialogue, select Color Options from the drop-down menu, set 'Color Correction': 'None'.
5. Select Quality & Media from the drop-down menu. Set the Media Type and print quality settings to the same parameters as those in the custom profile.
6. Click 'Print' to print your image.
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