Libraries & Vaults

I just installed A3. I had 2 libraries and 2 vaults on A2. I somehow have 4 of each now. 2 vaults in the documents folder and 2 vaults and 4 libraries in the pictures folder. How can I get to just 2 libraries and 2 vaults and which folder should they be in? I have 20,000 plus images and was very happy with A2. I just don't want to lose anything and want to be happy with A3. Thank You.

It sounds a lot like your library conversions are not finished for some reason. Try letting them finish in Ap3. The dups should go away. If for some reason the conversion are done just confirm you have everything and get rid of the old ones.
As for the vaults - just create new ones to be sure and get rid of the old ones. Ap3 creates the dup libraries during the conversion but gets rid of them at the end. If in your case for some reason the conversion may nave not completed.
RB

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I have 49.7GB of Aperture photo data that I want to back up to a Vault. I am running Yosemite and recently upgraded my iCloud drive to 200GB with only 13.7GB currently being used. When I set up a Vault using the iCloud drive it says I have insufficient space. Clearly I don't!
My iCloud account confirms that the space is available. Any suggestions please?

An Aperture vault cannot be stored in iCloud drive. If you put it on a synced volume it will be corrupted by syncing. Write your vault to a locally connected disk like described here for Aperture Libraries:
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A vault is essentially an Aperture library, so the same holds. I tested putting Aperture libraries, vaults, and iPhoto Libraries onto iCloud Drive. After the first sync they needed repairing.
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How much free space is on your Mac? You can only write files to iCloud Drive that will fit on all devices that are connected to iCloud Drive. iCloud Drive is not like an external disk - it is a shared storage for syncing your Macs. Everything you are writing to iCloud Drive will be mirrored to your Macs. See: iCloud Drive FAQ

ICloud Drive Upload Error/Space Used?

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An Aperture vault cannot be stored in iCloud drive. If you put it on a synced volume it will be corrupted by syncing. Write your vault to a locally connected disk like described here for Aperture Libraries:
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A vault is essentially an Aperture library, so the same holds. I tested putting Aperture libraries, vaults, and iPhoto Libraries onto iCloud Drive. After the first sync they needed repairing.
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Help, losing hard drive free space after removing A3

This one has me scratching my head.
I've been through all the insanity of trying to get A3 up and running and have decided to give up until Apple gets their act together.
So I restored my startup drive from a SuperDuper back-up (pre A3) that does have A2 on it. All my A2 libraries, vaults and original RAWS reside on separate drives. Normally this leaves me with 390 +/_ GB of free space on my startup drive. However over the past 2 days since restoring to my pre A3 state I've noticed background drive activity (Activity Monitor shows kernel_task/root making consistent writes to the drive) and my free space has been gradually declining to where it is now shown at 328 GB.
I did a fresh install of OS10.6.2 and have run directory rebuilds, repaired permissions and Spotlight turned off.
It's almost as if A3 were still trying to do it's drive eating thing (technical term).
Can anyone enlighten me about what may be happening?
Thanks!
Bob

This happened to me as well.
TechTool actually crashed a hard drive big time by filling it to the brim with daily backup files.
It is supposed to keep only the 5 most current and delete them oldest first.
I disabled the backup function (TechTool Protection) which is found in the OS X System Prefs.

How to store vaults for multiple libraries on one drive

Does anyone know if one can have a vault for three different Aperture libraries on the same external drive? The prompt says something about erasing all vaults.

Tanja Turtsanyi wrote:
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Are Vaults necessary with Referenced Libraries?

My Referenced Library is ~12 GB and my Vault for the same library is ~12 GB. Both reside on the internal HDD, while the images reside on an external HDD. If I just manually backup my .aplibrary file to another drive, isn't that the same (theoretical) thing as putting in it a Vault? I do understand that each time I make a change to the main .aplibrary, to sync it my external drive will require moving 12 GB each time vs updating a Vault on an external drive (much quicker).
I know the Vault keeps track of all the keywording/adjustments/etc... but so does the original .aplibrary file.
But to my original question, should backing up the .aplibrary accomplish the same thing (in case of internal HDD failure) as having a Vault on an external drive?

Backing up the library does the same thing as creating a vault for the library, essentially. So no, if you have a good backup plan, they're not strictly necessary.
Note, having a vault on the same drive as the library itself is only marginally helpful. A single HD failure will kill both

Using vaults to restore libraries

Hello All,
I've got a question on vaults in Aperture 3. Let's assume my HD fails and I can't do anything to recover data from it. I install everything from scratch and now A3 does not have anything in the library. Can I use the vaults to re-create my pictures library, as it was before the HD died?
Thanks,
Valerio
ps: this is only an hypothetical scenario, fortunately my HD is intact!

Yes, and i guess you know, it must be on a different Drive.
You can also back up a project, or the whole Library manually, if you want to keep a fixed copy at a particular point in time, Go to File>Export Project as Library.
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Can you Import albums/matadata from a vault to a new library ?

After using ver3.01 for a few weeks and getting comfortable with it, I converted & upgraded several older managed libraries. All went well except for the last one. There must be some corrupted images somewhere in that 200Gig Library, for all the horror stories I read about on this forum materialized - The endless hours, the spinning beach ball, the crashes etc.
Since I had backed up this Library with vaults ( I was not able to rebuild from the vault either ), I knew that by RIght Clicking on the Vault and "show package content" I could access & rescue the projects individually. That worked and here I come to the part I could not successfully complete -import an existing album to a new library.
Where I had both projects and albums residing inside a folder - I could move the projects to a new Library, but not the Albums. Is there a way to do that ?

I would say no. I have an Ipad2 with the connection kit. A recent Sony camera which works fine in imovie for my 27" imac, but nothing with the Ipad. Only thing that it finds are pictures that can be made with the same video camera. Apple wrote a note aboit probkmes with importing, but i'm very disappointed with what i have right now.
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3719

I wonder how pro photographers use aperture?I shoot raw and my harddrive is alreay full.I'm not able to import new pictures.Is it ok if i create a vault and delete all my projects in the HD.Can I use an external HD use aperture through the vault??

I wonder how pro photographers use aperture?I shoot raw and my harddrive is alreay full.I'm not able to import new pictures. I don't know what to do. I created a vault. My plan was to create a vault(put all my master files into an external harddrive) and then delete all my projects in my mac pro's harddrive. Is it the correct way to do it ? What should I do if I have thousands of raw files ? How should my workflow be? Can I use an external HD and use aperture through the vault,without keeping the master files on my computer's hard drive?? Or should I shoot raw+jpeg and store raw files in an external backup harddrive and import only jpegs into my aperture library?

There's a bit to learn. It will slowly make sense.
Aperture is an empty field. You're given a tractor and a whole bunch of attachments. What you grow, how, and where, is entirely up to you.
Vaults are for back-up and only for back-up. They have nothing to do with storing your working files.
When your Library outgrows your system drive (and for good performance, you should leave c. 20% of every drive empty), it's time to convert some of your image's Masters from Managed to Referenced. ("Managed" and "Referenced" refer to Masters, not to Libraries.)
There are hundreds of posts in the forum, and several pages in the User Manual on using Masters.
Many people run Aperture with the Library on their system disk, and most (or all) of their images' Masters on external FW drives. This is a good set-up. Note that you will likely have to take steps to back-up the data on your external drives.
If you do the above, there should be no reason to delete any Projects.
The choice of RAW or RAW+JPEG or JPEG depends on the kind of work you are doing. I capture RAW only -- but I don't do any commercial shoots. Pros on deadlines report that the RAW+JPEG works well for them. Capture JPEG if it saves you time. IMHO, there is not a good reason to shoot JPEG to save space (space is cheap; time expensive).
Short-term solution: buy and use a FW800 external 1 TB drive, formatted "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)", and using Aperture relocate the Masters of all images older than 30 days to that drive. (Be sure to change your back-up strategy to include this new drive; you may need a second new drive.)
This general post of mine might help you understand more about Aperture.

What is the best way to consolidate Aperture and iPhoto libraries onto an external drive? I am just starting out and not used to Aperture filing system.

I would like to use the drive as storage/aperture backup rather than use it to back up my whole Macbook. Would like to keep the majority of the photo files on the ext. drive and be able to add files there directly. BUT, when workng in aperture would like to be able to select some from the ext. drive and work them on the laptop directly without having to have the ext drive attached.
So do i, have the aperture library path mapped to the ext drive, and then import the iphoto library? and then how do i add additional from the camera? Or, do i move everything together (imported iphotos and new from camera) in Aperture on the Macbook first, and then transfer that library to the ext drive?
For the life of me I can't figure out how to do this in a way that seems logical. Vaults? Masters on ext drive, versions on the macbook? Consolidating libraries? The endless possible answers are baffling me.
Thanks for any help!

Kirby Krieger wrote:
Hi Shane. Not much in the way of thoughts - - but fwiw:
How is the drive attached?
Can you open large files on the drive with other programs?
Are you running any drive compression or acceleration programs (some drives arrive with these installed)?
Can you reformat the drive and try again?
Hi Kirby,
I attached the UltraMax Plus with a USB cable. The UltraMax powers the cable so power is not an issue. I can open other files. Also, there is 500GB of files on the drive so I cannot re-format it. Although, I noted I could import the entire Aperture Library. However, I do not want to create a duplicate on my machine because that would be defeating the purpose of the external drive.
Thanks,
Shane

Error when I "Update Vault Path..."

I have had some lingering problems with my Aperture library that I am just getting around to addressing. One is that I need to back up to my vault, but it is not letting me do so. When I hit the little (red) refresh button on the bottom of my window, I get the message:
"Update Connected Vaults?
Some vaults are not connected. Do you wish to replace the contents of all connected vaults with the current contents of your library?
This cannot be undone."
Because I'm an adventerous guy, I did this, but when I try to refresh my vault the next time I get the same error.
So I started poking around and found the "Update Vault Path" menu item. This sounds like it should solve my problem, but when I go through and select my vault and try to update the path I get the error message:
"Incorrect Vault Selected
The path could not be updated because the selected vault does not match the original vault."
This is definitely the right vault. It is on a partition of my Time Capsule. However I may have moved the file or changed the name of something a few months ago, which I suspect is why I'm having this problem now?
What do I do to get that vault path back in order?

Is this Aperture 3? Are you talking about one library or multiple libraries? How many vaults do you have connected to the library?
If you click the *show/hide Vaults* button what does Aperture show you? This is the name of your vault(s) and their locations. Does that match what you think it should be?
Sounds like you may be better off just creating a new vault and using that going forward.

Storage solutions for Aperture Library & vault??

My Aperture library has grown to over 400 GBs and I am concerned about storage as it grows larger week by week. I have been using two 500 GB firewire 800 drives, one for the library and one for vault. Today I purchased a 1 Terabyte drive for the library, it works well and I actually see a speed improvement. I will pick up another next week for the vault.
Aperture lumps all of the data in one folder therefore requiring the size of our hard drive to keep pace with the Library. I need a different solution than replacing firewire drives with larger capacity ones every three to six months.
My main requirements are speed and expandability. I do not want to keep several aperture libraries, to me this defeats the purpose of an image database.
I have heard the pros and cons of raid and I do not think it's the best solution for an Aperture based system. Sata sounds interesting and seems that it may become more standard. I have also read about using an out-dated mac as a server by installing several hard drives and connecting it to the workstation by gigabyte ethernet. I would like to have my library on a very fast connection, firewire is fine for the vault. I am wondering what others are doing in the same situation as mine and if you might have any advice.
With the purchase of the 1TB drives I figure that I will be fine until mid to late summer, by that time Apple will have their new desktop available which I plan to purchase. It might be best to see what the machine will or will not support. Any thoughts?........
G5 dual 2.0 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

As the previous poster said: this is an Apple problem that needs to be solved. I might add, it probably will be in the near future. So, you should try to scrape by for the next few months as best you can and wait and hope and pray for a solution from Apple.
With DVD and Firewire drives backing up your original you are well--probably over--backed up. One copy on DVD is more than sufficient for your originals. Make more backups of the Aperture library which includes your original file and your time consuming metadata and adjustments.
RAID 0 is risky because if a single drive goes then you loose everything! There are other RAID schemes that make your system more dependable. RAID 1 mirroring is safer but doesn't expand your storage capacity.
RAID 3 & 5 are both more dependable and give you bigger working volumes but there is a lot of processor work going on to calculate parity (error correcting and data recovery information) that is spread across several drives. If you use Mac OS X RAID or Soft RAID that processor power comes from you computer's CPU--which probably has enough work to do already without having to crunch numbers for every byte that goes to/from your hard-drive.
RAID 3 & 5 are good systems if you have hardware to to the parity calculation but they each require a minimum 4 drives to make a set--which you don't want to use as a boot drive. That means you would need 5 drives inside your G5 of a combination of internal and external drives.
A cleaner solution might be getting a Wiebe Tech Siver SATA V case and port multiplier card (about $1500 w/o drives). That will give you a good fast connection for 5 external hot-swappable drives. Then use Ben Long's library spanner to get you by until Apple comes to the rescue with a multiple drive library.

Aperature Vault recovery from a backup

iMac with WD external hard drives. My external hard drive containing one of my older vaults crashed. I installed a new drive and restored the old drive contents via time machine to the new drive. In order to get Aperature to recognize the new drive location, I tried to Update Vault Path by selecting the new drive, folder, and the vault, but I get an error message that the vault is the incorrect vault, that it doesn't match the vault aperature thinks it should. What's up, and what can I do? I've deleted some of the pictures contained in that vault, and would like to be able to access them if needed.

By "older vault", I mean that I created a vault which I updated regularly. Then I wanted to remove some of my older pictures that I don't frequently access, to reduce the time Aperature spends managing the picture files. I created several libraries by years and put the older pictures in those libraries. I removed them from the regular Aperature library, and started a new vault for the new library. The vaults all are for the latest Aperature version. The only vault I can access is the current vault, which is on my primary drive along with my current library.
It appears Aperature is trying to check that the vault I am attempting to update to the new drive is really the same vault it is expecting. There must be some checksum or other test it uses.
Concerning what a vault is used for, I thought it was like a safe, where you keep stuff you don't want to lose. You have different vaults for different purposes, just like you have different libraries.

How to back-up Aperture3 libraries (on an external drive) to store in a safe place?

What is the best way to back-up aperture3 libraries to an 2nd external drive that provides a 2nd copy that I can use in case something bad happens to my original drive? Should I back-up the entire library package or just the vaults? What is the difference between the those two options.
Thank you!

Depends on whether you use managed-Masters or referenced-Masters.
Most important is to back up original image files before import into Aperture or any other images management application. I like Vaults for backing up the Aperture Library, and I use referenced-Masters to keep the Library a civilized size.
Mass storage is cheap. We need backups both on site (all hard drives fail) and off site (fire, flood, theft).
HTH
-Allen

Will Aperture backup to a vault with daisy chained external hard drives

I am moving my Aperture library to a 6TB external drive. I want to back that up to a disaster drive consisting of 2 g-drives daisy chained, one 2TB and the other 4TB.
Will Aperture recognize the daisy chained drives as a single drive and backup the Aperture library to these drives as a single vault?

Caveat: answering your question requires one to make lots of assumptions, any one of which might change the answer. I do not know if Aperture would do so or not but personally I would not recommend it.
Note that daisy-chaining is simply a method of connecting drives; the drives themselves each remain fully independent. One needs to build a RAID array to combine independent volumes, and that is usually best done with fairly identical drives rather than with a 4TB and a 2TB.
I strongly believe that unless one is a true mass-storage expert very large Managed-Originals Libraries should be avoided. IMO far preferable is to instead use Refererenced-Originals Libraries.
Databases invariably perform better in numerous ways when smaller.
-Allen

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