Library Module - Quick Develop Panel

Hi,
I was really hoping that the Quick Develop panel in the Library Module which I sometimes use if there are minor touchups needed to a photo would have been redesigned to more closely resemble and work like the Basic panel in the Develop Module. Certainly sliders instead of those arrow buttons would be a very useful change.
I'm pretty sure that this has been a popular enhancement request. Does anyone know why this wans't changed?
Thanks,
Eli

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