Library size differs

Hi, when I open iTunes, at the bottom it tells me my library size which is around 55GB but when I navigate to my 'iTunes Music' folder in the finder it states it's 90GB. Why the dramatic change in size?!
Can some one clear up why this might be. Thanks

Thanks for that. Does my vault size (85% of the library size) seem about right to you?
I only ask because the whole point of the vault is to be sure nothing is lost ... so I want to be sure I have this set up properly.
Thanks,
~BC

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Library size differs from Vault size

I just made a new Aperture Vault. My Aperture Library file is 41.66GB. My Vault file is 35.41GB.
Why are these different?
I have consolidated the library as well, so I am sure that the issue is not related to referenced files.
Thanks,
~BC

Thanks for that. Does my vault size (85% of the library size) seem about right to you?
I only ask because the whole point of the vault is to be sure nothing is lost ... so I want to be sure I have this set up properly.
Thanks,
~BC

Aperture Library size different after restore from TM and rebuild Thumbnails

I have just completed an erase-install-migrate from Time Machine using Setup Assistant.
The size of the managed Aperture Library originally was 397.8Gb
After completion of the migrate back in I opened Aperture and as expected it rebuilt the thumbnails (TM does not backup the Thumbnails).
After doing this I tested the Library as far as possible and all seems well, and the number of photos is exactly the same as before (49,883).
However, the size of the library is now 357.8 Gb.
The only logical explanation (to me) is that the restore process has eliminated previews and thumbnails from photos which I have deleted over the years.
I still have a backup of the original (397.8Gb) version which I could put back with the Finder, but if the restored library has cleared years of redundant previews and thumbnails I would prefer to stay with that.
All done with Mavericks and Aperture 3.5.
Any insights very welcome.
Thanks

Just had the idea of looking at sizes in the Library package contents, and the explanation for the change in size is due to three things:
Thumbnails old: 44.95 Gb
Thumbnails new: 15.13 Gb
There is also an iPod photocache of 14.6 Gb which is not yet present in the new.
However Previews old was 27.95 Gb and Previews new is 33.18 Gb, so I assume some previews were smaller in the original Library.
Masters is 304.3 Gb in the original and new libraries.
I am beginning to feel more confident about the new library.

ICloud photo library size

Hi all,
I just have a quick question regarding iCloud photo library size.
What happens when the iCloud photo library is larger than the space on my iPhone?
My iCloud photo library size is 4gb (I am still within the free 5gb) however, the space on my phone is under 4gb.
All of my photos have been uploaded on the iCloud photo library beta for Mac/ Yosemite.
I'm aware that there are 2 options within the iCloud - Photos menu which are "Optimise iPhone Storage" or "Download and Keep originals"
Now I thought that regardless of which option you selected they would still store a local copy on your iPhone, but what happens when even the optimised versions take up more space than your phone can handle?
Sorry if I'm being a bit slow here, I'm just slightly puzzled by this one.
Thanks

http://www.imore.com/what-you-need-k...ut-photos-os-x
#macrumors
One lesser-known feature of iCloud documents (I can't speak for Photos quite yet) is that storage on your iOS devices is dynamically managed - if a document hasn't been accessed from the iOS device in a long time, it will automatically be removed if space is needed (the way RAM is managed on a Mac) - all you have on the iOS device at that point is document metadata (title, etc.). If/when you need to access it again, it'll be re-downloaded. Note that it's different on a Mac - every iCloud document is cached on your Mac - I guess the assumption is that you have the space, and that accessing documents while working offline/off the grid is more important to someone who's using a laptop.
I expect iCloud Photo Library will work similarly, if not identically: On iOS a thumbnail of everything, larger images of items that are actually opened and viewed. If available storage starts to dwindle, the higher-res versions of the least-frequently viewed items will be removed until they're called for again. On Mac, a complete cache of everything, at full resolution.

APERTURE 3.1.2'S MAXIMUM LIBRARY SIZE?

I HAVE MY APERTURE 3.1.2'S LIBRARY FILE STORED ON AN EXTERNAL DISK. IT IS OVER 150 GB IN SIZE (ALONG WITH ITS VAULT SIZE OF ANOTHER 148 GB. I'VE ATTEMPTED TO FIND WHAT THE MAXIMUM SIZE THIS FILE CAN/SHOULD BE BUT CANNOT FIND IT IN APERTURE'S LITERATURE. SO, IS THERE A MAXIMUM SIZE AND IF SO, HOW BIG CAN IT GET AND NOT EXHIBIT ANY PROBLEMS?
ALSO, IF I CREATE ANOTHER LIBRARY FILE AND NAME IT DIFFERENTLY, HOW COULD I HAVE THE SAME PROJECTS, ALBUMS, AND FOLDERS BE IN THE NEW FILE (OF COURSE, WITHOUT ANY OF THEIR PHOTO FILES -- EMPTY SO I CAN ADD TO THEM AS I CONTUNE MANAGING MY PHOTOS?
I LOVE THIS PROGRAM -- ALTHOUGH IT GIVES ME THE "CIRCULAR RAINBOW" A LOT OF THE TIME. I'M ASSUMING THIS IS BECAUSE THE FILE IS SO BIG AND MY MACBOOK PRO 17" IS OVER 2.5 YEARS OLD. I HAVE THE MAX RAM FOR IT (@ 3GB) AND I RUN DISK UTILITY EVERY OTHER DAY TO REPAIR PERMISSIONS. I HAVE OVER 400 GB REMAINING ON MY EXTERNAL DRIVE OF ITS MAXIMUM OF 2 TB. MY MACBOOK'S HARD DRIVE IS 160GB AND HAS ONLY 17GB REMAINING. THIS IS THE REASON I HAVE TO LOCATE MY LIBRARY FILE (AND MY iTUNES MUSIC FILES) ON EXTERNAL DISKS.
ANY RESPONSE TO THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED:
CREATE A NEW LIBRARY FILE WITH THE SAME STRUCTURE AND MY CURRENT ONE (BUT CONTAINING NO PHOTOS YET)?
MAXIMUM FILE SIZE OF ANY APERTURE 3.1.2 LIBRARY FILE?
MINIMIZE "CIRCULAR RAINBOW" ACTIVITY?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
LARRY W. HAMILTON

Hi Larry -- welcome to our sunny clearing in the orchard.
Please don't post in ALL CAPS. It means you ARE SHOUTING. There is no reason to shout. Regularly capitalized text is also easier to read.
You need more RAM. Aperture stresses hardware. 4 GB RAM is a working minimum. If you have only 4 GB you should not run any other programs when Aperture is running.
Library size, in GB or in number of Images under management, is not a concern as long as you have the storage space. I have run Libraries of several hundred thousand Images and over 500 GB on machines with 4 GB RAM.
You should upgrade to the newest Aperture version. It is 3.2.2. The upgrade is free for owners of 3.x.
You should leave at least 15% of your system drive empty -- the OS uses this. At just 17 GB free on yours, you should open up some more free space.
Two changes may keep your computer from hanging as much as it does. In Aperture, turn off sharing Previews, and turn off Faces. Each of these eats processor cycles.
Are you connecting your external drive with FW800? FW400?

Aperture Library Size slowing iMac even when Aperture is closed

I recently purchased an iMac 22 quad core running Lion, with all updates. It currently has 12GB of Ram, and 190GB free on the hard drive.
The iMac would load programs like Outlook within a few seconds and was very fast.
I purchased Aperture and migrated about 38,000 images, using the exisitng file structure from my PC. This took about 12 hours yo process, update images, etc...
Even if Aperture is closed, all programs now load much more slowly. Outlook can take 20-30 seconds to open, and lists of email and contacts now take as much as a minute to load.
This is only true for the user account with the Aperture library, as programs for other users seems to work fine.
I tried running disk utilities, restarting machine, but no difference.
Activity monitor shows no unusual memory, CPU or disk activity.
I started a new user account, and all worked fine again...until I again created an aperture library, and again, even if Aperture is not started, everyting else runs slowly.
Is there a file indexing feature that is overwhelmed by the addition of a large aperture library? (Deleting the Aperture library doe snot solve the problem-only startign a new user accountdoes).

dphughes wrote:
...in both cases maintaining referenced files stored outside the catalog/library. The Aperture library is 500% the size of the Lightroom catalog - even with restricted preview sizes and no vault.
If this is true, there must be a logical explanation that is giving Aperture users some benefit for the increased Library size. Sorry been a long time since I looked at Lightroom. Does it store the same size previews and thumbnails as Aperture? Since you are using referenced files and Aperture is using non-destructive edits and even new versions do not create duplicate files (only a new set of pointers to the referenced masters), one would think previews and thumbnails must be handled differently. Since you use both, what could it be?
The Aperture Vault is a separate library than the Aperture Library so having a Vault of course should not impact the size of the Aperture Library.

After installing Aperture and leaving photos in iPhoto library, why did iphoto library size almost double?

I installed Aperture and chose to leave all my images in the iPhoto library until I became more comfortable/familiar with Aperture.
I was looking at my hard drive space and see that the available space went way down. In Finder, the Aperture library.ap library is 17.97 gb and the iPhoto library is 122.75 gb.
When I open iPhoto, it says that it contains 19349 images/87 gb.
What happened? Is that extra size related to the Aperture referencing the images? Should I delete and start over, and move all the images into Aperture so that they are managed there?
I'm just figuring my way around Aperture, and I'm trying not to over-think the organizational differences, but this size discrepancy seems a bit too much.

I wish I had more info for this but I'm stumped. As I said there is no reason Aperture would increase the iPhoto library size by importing iPhoto's library.
BTW how did you do the import, that might shed some light on the problem.
The image count between the backup and the live iPhoto libraries seems fairly consistent so why the jump in size I can't say. And as for the increase in the number of images in Aperture, you started with an empty Aperture library, correct? And did you import anything directly into Aperture since you did the iPhoto import?
I'm still a little confused on the whole thing where Aperture shows both original and edited versions of an image, and some show both RAW & JPEG versions of an image,
Well Aperture really doesn't show both the original and edited versions, all you ever see are the versions unless you specifically ask to see the master. When you import an image into Aperture a version of the master is automatically made and displayed. Because at this point the version is no different then the master (you haven't made any adjustments to it yet) the version looks exactly like the master but it is the version you are seeing.
As for the RAW & JPG thing, if you shoot both RAW + JPG's in your camera when you import them you have the choice of which to make the master or to make each one a master. Not sure if that is what you are referring to.
I'm wondering whether I would have been better off just moving the whole iPhoto library into Aperture at the beginning, and deleting the iPhoto library.
That is definitly one option and the option most users who switch eventually make. You're not going to want to have both programs handeling your photos. But you should probably hold off until you;re more omfortable with Aperture and make sure you have a good backup of the iPhoto library before you do anything.
Remember when you import the iPhoto library into Aperture you're only choice is to copy the images not move them. This is done so that you can make sure all went OK before doing anything with iPhoto.
If you have the room you could try bringing in the iPhoto library backup, and trying the import again into a new empty Aperture library.
regards

Is it possible to share an aperture library with different users using osx server.

is it possible to share an aperture library with different users using osx server.

Not really. You should not be sharing an Aperture library over a network. It's not designed for that and you'll likely corrupt your library at some point.

Time Machine Picture Library size is 2GB smaller in backup than computer disc.

Time Machine Picture Library size is 2GB smaller in backup than computer disc using Cmd I (Eye, not EL—don't we all love sans serif fonts as default) for both info.
Ah, this is readable at faster reading speeds.
Now ( oops the return key killed the font setting).
Now, we'll use run-on paragraphs. OK? ¶ On topic: I need more space to install a newer iOS on my iPhone. ¶ Someone at Apple Store Genius Bar advised deleting the album of pictures originally copied from my computer when I had vast memory space since it is already on the computer. Got 1GB About to say Available was still too low for the new iOS install. ¶ Another Apple Store Genius Bar advised making a good backup using TimeMachine on my computer and deleting all the pictures from my iPhone by the painful method of selecting each collection. ¶ So I thought I'd check how successful the backup was. Cmd I (doesn't look like El, yea!) on the Picture Library was 38 GB on my back up disc and 40 GB on my computer disc. ¶ Desktop folder is 87.1 MB (87,091,206 bytes) in both. How do I get the other 2 GB on the backup?

Time Machine Picture Library size is 2GB smaller in backup than computer disc using Cmd I (Eye, not EL—don't we all love sans serif fonts as default) for both info.
Ah, this is readable at faster reading speeds.
Now ( oops the return key killed the font setting).
Now, we'll use run-on paragraphs. OK? ¶ On topic: I need more space to install a newer iOS on my iPhone. ¶ Someone at Apple Store Genius Bar advised deleting the album of pictures originally copied from my computer when I had vast memory space since it is already on the computer. Got 1GB About to say Available was still too low for the new iOS install. ¶ Another Apple Store Genius Bar advised making a good backup using TimeMachine on my computer and deleting all the pictures from my iPhone by the painful method of selecting each collection. ¶ So I thought I'd check how successful the backup was. Cmd I (doesn't look like El, yea!) on the Picture Library was 38 GB on my back up disc and 40 GB on my computer disc. ¶ Desktop folder is 87.1 MB (87,091,206 bytes) in both. How do I get the other 2 GB on the backup?

IPhoto 6 library size-weirdness continues..

I have archived my full library to DVD and deleted all items. Finder still shows the library size at 1.24 GB! Inside I find it is not cache, nor thumbnails that take this space, but rather orinals which I have deleted before. Please see the screenshots showing the library, its size, size of the originals folder.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1261/picture16vg.png
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5755/picture22ql.png
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9955/picture32bj.png
In other words, deleting photos from library may not always lead to deleting the actual photos from disk, even if the trash in the library is emptied! In my opinion this is a bug and leads to unnecessary orphans and size bloat on disk. What do you think?
Also when burning the archive iPhoto library showed 3.2 GB from within iPhoto, it showed 5.19 GB in finder and when I was burning it on a DVD the size showed 3.9 GB!!
Just wanted to make you aware of this.
Roman

Dear Roman--I have had the same problem with iPhoto 6. I recently discovered that the iPhoto library contained many full-size images and movies which I had earlier trashed via the iPhoto application. In other words, when I discarded an image or movie when running iPhoto, the image or movie was not actually removed from the library (and my hard drive). Over time, the library became approximately 2 GB larger than it should have been. This is a waste of hard drive space which could become significant. To start tracking down the non-deleted movies, first create a smart album in iPhoto which displays all of your movies. Then, leaving the iPhoto application open, use the find command in the Finder to locate all of the movies in the iPhoto library folder. In theory, the number of movies should be the same in both the smart album and the Finder window. I found approximately 40 extra moves via the Finder. One by one, I compared the movies in the Finder window to the movies in the iPhoto smart album. After manually deleting those movies which iPhoto should have deleted long ago, I freed 500 MB of disk space. The process for images will be more tedious, and I hope someone finds a quicker way to perform this function. Good luck. --Tom

Aperture 3 Library size vs iPhoto Library

Hi!
I recently switched from iPhoto to Aperture and am wondering about the library size? In iPhoto the library size was bloated because it made a copy of every photo behind the scenes upon import. I got tired of that and thought that moving to Aperture would solve the problem. But, after importing most of my photos into Aperture, then comparing the size of my Aperture Library package with the size of my Photo folder in Finder that I imported from, I'm finding my Aperture library is over 100 GBs bigger!! Yikes! How did that happen?
I am running a managed library, but I thought Aperture didn't make a copy of every photo behind the scenes but rather just made versions of the master when changes are made.
Frankly, I haven't even done any editing yet, just importing. So, why the huge library size compared to the size of my Photo library in Finder? It's 186 GBs versus 85 GBs. Same photo collection. Crazy.
TIA!

No, from folders in Finder. I always have my photos in Finder too on an EHD, even after I import them to iPhoto or Aperture.

Library size incorrect

My iPhoto library for 06 is 21GB. I duplicate it and eliminate photos getting it down to 4.2GB (Jan-Apr 06)to burn to DVD. I duplicate the original again (21GB), delete Jan-Apr and attempt to get May-August down to around 4GB to burn another DVD. No matter how many photos I delete (and I've deleted all but 17 photos in May) the library still lists its size as 10.9BG. And yes, I've emptied the trash.
This has happened before, deleting photos and the library size not reflecting the correct size. What am I doing wrong?

John
Where are you reading the library size?
In the iPhoto Window the size shown is of the library as shown: the mix of Originals and Modified Pics.
In the Finder, the size of the iPhoto Library Folder is the total Originals, totla Modifieds, thumbnails and database files.
Regards
TD

Library size: what's "normal"?

I have around 13,000 images equaling 140 GB. When I first built a library, with normal rendered previews, the library was close to 19 GB.
I then rebuilt the library, I believe without previews, and it reduced its size to under 2 GB. Now, my libary has swelled to around 8 GB, even if I delete the 1:1 previews.
What is "normal" or reasonable when working with LR? How can I keep a balance between speed and reasonable library size? Is a new hard drive looming in my future?
I would appreciate guidance, clarity, and recommendations!
Thanks!
Reid

Hello, Reid. I recall your posting on this some time ago, and since then I concluded for the mix of images I put in, the library plus previews will equal somewhere between 8 and 12% of the overall. Recognizing milegae, of course, but it doesn't seem like you are out of line.

Library Size

Hi,
I was hoping to reduce the size of my library by relocating masters to DVDs.
After some tests here are some numbers I got:
Original Library Size with Consolidated Masters: 100%
After relocating masters it shrunk to: 39%
After deleting previews it shrunk a bit more to: 30%.
Is there some way of reducing that 30% even more ? What is contained in that 30% now that masters are out and previews are deleted ?
Thank you.
MBP 2.0 Mac OS 10.4.9 Mac OS X (10.4.5)

There are still thumbnails stored in the Library, otherwise you wouldn't be able to see anything without the DVDs being in the drive. But from the percentages, it wounds like either your originals are JPEGs (and the thumbnails are therefore relatively large in comparison), or not all of the Previews have been deleted.
Ian

Library Size Limit & Recipient IDs

This looks like a better alternative to services like
yousendit, but I was wondering if the 1GB library size limit will
be retained once the service is out of beta, and if we would be
able to purchase more storage space.
Also, will the recipient always have to create an Adobe ID in
order to retrieve the file? Some of my clients may shy away from
using the service if they have to create an ID. Thanks!

During the beta period the library size is limited to 1GB per
user. We will share additional information regarding storage space,
additional features etc in the next few months.
Regarding the Adobe ID. You clients will need to sign-up for
an Adobe ID if you share a file with them with restricted access.
The service uses the Adobe ID to ensure that only the recipients
with the valid e-mail addresses are allowed to access your shared
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