License of SOA

Hello everyone...
hope I am posting at the right forum...
let us say that I am developing an application using JDeveloper 10.1.3.4,
the technologies I am using are JSF1.1, ADF, web services,
now
1- which version of Oracle Application Server should I purchase?
2- if I my application is using web services, does that mean I must buy the SOA license?
need details about this...
thanks alot

Hi,
The Application Server Standard Edition with ADF would be sufficient for you. Soa Suite license is only required when using the Oracle BPEL, ESB or WSM products.
Andre

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As far as I know, the licenses are different for both these products.
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Fabian,
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