Licensed required for LYNC 2013, Sql, Edge

for 1500 users for IM presence, audio video, HA, DR, archive
proposed design :- archive collacted with backend,
DC:- 2 FE server, 2 Edge server, 2 Sql Mirrored,
DR :- 1 FE, 1 Edge, 1 SQL
is there any flaw in sizing?
Licenses :- 3 FE license, (FE in DR will need license as it is passive?)
3 SQL licenses :- how to calculate it per core, in my case how much core and how many licenses required?
thx

Yes, you'll need 3 Lync licenses (you only license the front end and passive will need to be licensed).
For SQL, yes 3 servers. This article will help calculate your core licensing:
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/briefs/licensing-by-cores.aspx
Sizing is fine provided everything has adequate resources. 3 FEs in the DC pool is recommended.
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Certificate Requirement for Lync 2013 Standard Edition

I have successfully run the setup of lync 2013 standard edition now I am stuck due to certificates required for lync 2013. when I generate a csr. it show the subjected urls for that.
hostname.domain.com
sip.domain.com
diali.domain.com
meet.domain.com
admin.domain.com
lyncdiscover.domain.com
lyncdiscoverinternal.domain.com
im.domain.com (External URL)
so if I go for 3 party CA then I need 8 certicate only for internal lync. As I also need to connected federated partner and external user so I need Edge for again I need 3 more certificates
web.domain.com
a/v.domain.com
sip.domain.com
now when I go for these certificate it quit costly and I didn't understand why such certifcates required. can anyone help me to fix such requirement.
Or, what are the necessary url to which I buy 3 party CA rest leave as it is.
I also want to deploy Edge with single adopter as we have only one network so can anyone assist me to proceed it further.
Talha Faraz Malik

To save on the cost of your third party certificates, I would deploy an internal certificate authority to sign certificates for your internal front end. For your third party certificate, you would only need the SANs for the edge and for your
reverse proxy and as Edwin said, this can be a single cert with multiple SANs.
For example, for your edge you would need:
sip.domain.com
web.domain.com
You would not need A/V as this role does not require a SAN on your certificate. On the same certificate, which you could also use on your reverse proxy, you'd likely want the following FQDNs.
lyncdiscover.domain.com
im.domain.com (your external web services FQDN)
meet.domain.com
dialin.domain.com
You may also want to consider your internal web services FQDN and include the following so third party mobile devices can connect without needing a certificate installed:
im_internal.domain.com (your internal web services FQDN)
lyncdiscoverinternal.domain.com
I'm sure that's not entirely clear yet, so feel free to ask more questions or what the purpose of each is.
When you say Edge with a single adapter, you mean a single adapter in a DMZ or internal? You definably want two NICS, both in separate DMZs, but I've managed to get the edge working with a single adapter in a DMZ before. What you don't want is
the edge in your internal network.
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Bandwidth required for Lync 2013 audio video call

Hi,
what is the required bandwidth required for lync 2013 audio video call from out side of company network. considering users will use owa integration with exchange 2013 for audio video call.
i tried with lync bandwidth calculator but could not figure it out.
actually i have some remote site where users have connectivity of 160 kbps only.

There are a number of variables such as call type and video resolution, but I would suggest using this table as a guide:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj688118.aspx
For example for capacity purposes with a Lync peer-to-peer call you're looking at 57Kbps (86 with FEC)
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For meeting the loadbalance requirements for LYNC 2013 FE SERVER, which features will be necessary for HLB ?

I has read the deployment guide from some vendors, such as A10 networks and coyotepoint, it seems that HLB will have the ability to load balance the lync flow when it support L4_VS, least-connections method, source_ip
persistence, as follows
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Single VIP exposed through ARP
Source Address Affinity
Enabled
TCP Idle Time-Out Interval
1800 sec
Balancing Algorithm
Least-Connections-Based
TCP Resets on Idle
Enable
My first questions is: need the source_ip_persistence among these L4_VS be shared ?
For example, there are two FE servers, they are FE-1, FE-2
HLB has two L4_VS, they are VS_5061, VS_443 (of course, the vs will be more in real case)
When client-1 access vs_5061, HLB will dispatch the request to FE-1 according to method, ok, after a while, if client-1 try to access vs_443, will this
connections have to be dispatched to the same RS ( FE-1) ?
Except that this question, there are any other requirement have to be support for HLB ? such as SNAT ? such as anying else ...
I doesn't know the real communication theory about lync server, so hope anyone could help me, it is very appreciated

For the other port with HLB, I saw the depolyment from F5 networks, A10 networks( which are HLB vendor), the following link is one scheme from A10
http://www.a10networks.com/resources/files/A10-DG-Microsoft_Lync_2013.pdf
So I feel that
A. The other port should be able to be loadbalanced by HLB
B. The HLB can do it with the only L4 ability
In fact, I come from the vendor too, I want to know whether our new product (which is one type of HLB) could support LYNC, want to know any potential requirement when deploy HLB to lync.
In other words, if our produce has the ability as follows
VIP
Single VIP exposed through ARP
Source Address Affinity
Enabled
TCP Idle Time-Out Interval
1800 sec
Balancing Algorithm
Least-Connections-Based
TCP Resets on Idle
Enable
Will it have the ability to support the LYNC (not just 80 and 443) ?

Lync 2013 sql database on existing lync 2010 sql server

Dear All,
I have query regarding the SQL server requirement for Lync 2013 enterprise,when there is a co-existence or migration from lync 2010 to 2013, it it possible to use the same Lync 2010 enterprise sql server with different instance name or we have to create
a new sql server for lync 2013, please advice me.
Thanks and regards,
sarma kumar

No it is not possible. Topology builder won't allow it, it needs to be a completely different server name.
When you input the server into Topology builder you enter the server name and instance in two separate fields, it will give you a red X as soon as you try to put the server name in if it's already in the topology.
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Do we need License for Lync 2013 Edge server?

Hello Team,
We are currently running Lync 2013 Standard Edition Server. We are planning to enable users for External access and planning to deploly Lync 2013 edge server.
1. Do we need License for Lync 2013 Edge server?
2. Any other client licenses needed?
Please advise.

Hi,
No you don't required any additional License in order to install Lync Edge server. the only license required at OS level i mean windows server licence in terms of Lync concern you don't require any additional License
check this
https://products.office.com/en-us/lync/microsoft-lync-licensing-overview-lync-for-multiple-users
http://lyncuc.blogspot.in/2013/02/lync-2013-licensing-guide-how-to.html
And for client also you don't require any additional license with your existing client license will work for externally as well
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SQL Cluster requiremnt for Lync 2013

Hi
We are are planning to deploy Lync 2013 enterprise. Planning to use SQL cluster. Would like to clarify whether we must create a sepearte sql instance for Lync 2013 or can we use an existing shared instance to create a seperate database for Lync.
We prefer 2nd approach. Is there any issues or demerits using existing shared SQL instances?
Thanks and regards,
Aboo Arif

Hi AbooArif.
This kind of question is very common. Basically here is the Microsoft Documentation about it.
Database software support in Lync Server 2013
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398990.aspx
This point is the important: "If you collocate Lync Server databases with other databases, we highly recommend assessing all factors that might affect availability and performance, as well as ensuring that, if one node fails, the remaining node can
handle the load. To verify failover capabilities, we recommend testing all failover scenarios."
We can say the following: It's recommended to use a separate SQL server for Lync, however collating Lync database with other SQL databases will work, but has an high probability of present some performance problems. Many customers prefer to use this option
considering the cost of SQL licenses.
It is important to consider all the hardware requeriments for the Lync Server BackEnd role:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398835.aspx because the normal issue when customers share the SQL server with other instances is due to performance issues. Also note
that if you have multiple front end pools, these cannot share a SQL server.
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What is best recommendstion for DNS LB for lync 2013 Edge servers

What is best recommendation for DNS LB for lync 2013 Edge servers ?. We have F5 LB for edge and want to decide if we can go with DNS base LB for Edge servers.
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It will be better to Use Hardware Load balancing (F5).
If you choose to use DNS load balancing for a pool but still need to implement hardware load balancers for traffic such as HTTP traffic, the administration of the hardware load balancers is greatly simplified. For example, configuring the hardware load balancer
will be simpler as it will only manage the HTTP and HTTPS traffic, while all other protocols will be managed by DNS load balancing
Also for more info., you can check below links
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg615011.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398634.aspx
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SQL Licensing Requirement for E-Commerce

Hi Experts,
Does anyone know the SQL licensing requirements for E-Commerce/Web CRM components? Is it within Microsoft licensing guidelines to setup just a single user CAL for all users on the website, or do we need multiple user CALS or a Processor CAL?
Thanks in Advance,
Aaron

Hi AAron,
You will need a SQL CPU License for the webserver or indeed if you plan to use a single server.
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Edge server for Lync 2013

Hi,
I have a lync server 2013 in my enviroment. Now users are accessing lync 2013 internally. i want to allow external users to access lync services like web scheduler etc. how we can configure edge server for lync 2013.
Thanks

Hi,
To install Edge Server follow this step by step guide
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/16931.installing-lync-2013-edge-server.aspx
http://www.orcsweb.com/blog/cory-granata/installing-lync-2013-edge-server/
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IISARR URLS for Lync 2013 not working externally

Hello All,
Currently facing issue of opening lyncdiscover.domain.com from external.
I have created the server farm uing IISARR for Lync2013 & added 5 rules under the server farm as shown below:
meet.domain.com
dialin.domain.com
lyncdiscover.domain.com
owebapp.domain.com
When I tried browse all the above URL's none of the URLs are opening & showing below errors as attached screen shot:
Also when I tried test by using Lync 2013 Connectivity Analyzer showing below errors
SIP Uri: [email protected]
Logging test parameters:
User Name:
Discovery Type: Automatic Discovery
Network access: NetworkAccessInternal
Selected client: ApplicationLMX
Starting Lync server autodiscovery
Please wait; this test may take several minutes to complete...
Starting automatic discovery for secure (HTTPS) internal channel
lyncdiscoverinternal.domain.com can't be resolved by the DNS server. Skipping internal discovery.
For more information on DNS requirements for automatic discovery, please refer to http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=278998
Starting automatic discovery for secure (HTTPS) external channel
Sending HTTP request to https://lyncdiscover.domain.com/[email protected]
Cookie found in autodiscover response: StatusCode: 500, ReasonPhrase: 'URL Rewrite Module Error.', Version: 1.1, Content: System.Net.Http.StreamContent, Headers:
Cache-Control: private
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:51:26 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.5
Content-Length: 5694
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Autodiscover: SendRequest(): the URL https://lyncdiscover.domain.com/[email protected] couldn't be connected. Complete HTTP headers:\r\n Cache-Control: private
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:51:26 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.5
Couldn't connect to URL https://lyncdiscover.domain.com/[email protected]
Reason: Internal server error (HTTP status code 500)
System.Exception: Exception of type 'System.Exception' was thrown.
at Microsoft.LyncServer.WebServices.AutoDiscoverManager.TerminateAD(String mesg)
at Microsoft.LyncServer.WebServices.AutoDiscoverManager.<SendRequest>d__d.MoveNext()
--- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown ---
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.ThrowForNonSuccess(Task task)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter`1.GetResult()
at Microsoft.LyncServer.WebServices.AutoDiscoverManager.<TryNextUrl>d__3.MoveNext()
--- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown ---
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.ThrowForNonSuccess(Task task)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task)
at Microsoft.LyncServer.WebServices.AutoDiscoverManager.<StartDiscoveryJourney>d__0.MoveNext()
--- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown ---
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.ThrowForNonSuccess(Task task)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task)
at LyncConnectivityAnalyzerCore.Utilities.<RetrieveUserLocation>d__3e.MoveNext()
Server discovery failed for secured external channel against https://lyncdiscover.domain.com/
Starting automatic discovery for unsecure (HTTP) external channel
Sending HTTP request to http://lyncdiscover.domain.com/[email protected]
Cookie found in autodiscover response: StatusCode: 500, ReasonPhrase: 'URL Rewrite Module Error.', Version: 1.1, Content: System.Net.Http.StreamContent, Headers:
Cache-Control: private
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:51:44 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.5
Content-Length: 5765
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Autodiscover: SendRequest(): the URL http://lyncdiscover.domain.com/[email protected] couldn't be connected. Complete HTTP headers:\r\n Cache-Control: private
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:51:44 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.5
Couldn't connect to URL http://lyncdiscover.domain.com/[email protected]
Reason: Internal server error (HTTP status code 500)
System.Exception: Exception of type 'System.Exception' was thrown.
at Microsoft.LyncServer.WebServices.AutoDiscoverManager.TerminateAD(String mesg)
at Microsoft.LyncServer.WebServices.AutoDiscoverManager.<SendRequest>d__d.MoveNext()
--- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown ---
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.ThrowForNonSuccess(Task task)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter`1.GetResult()
at Microsoft.LyncServer.WebServices.AutoDiscoverManager.<TryNextUrl>d__3.MoveNext()
--- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown ---
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.ThrowForNonSuccess(Task task)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task)
at Microsoft.LyncServer.WebServices.AutoDiscoverManager.<StartDiscoveryJourney>d__0.MoveNext()
--- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown ---
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.ThrowForNonSuccess(Task task)
at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task)
at LyncConnectivityAnalyzerCore.Utilities.<RetrieveUserLocation>d__3e.MoveNext()
Server discovery failed for unsecured external channel against http://lyncdiscover.domain.com/
None, AutoInternalDNSFail, AutoInternalSecureD, AutoInternalUnsecureD, AutoExternalSecureD, AutoExternalUnsecureD, ManualDNSFail, ManualSecureD, ManualUnsecureD, AuthBrokerInternalLMXCheckGET, AuthBrokerInternalLMXCheckPOST, AuthBrokerExternalLMXCheckGET, AuthBrokerExternalLMXCheckPOST,
MobilityMCXInternalLMXCheckGET, MobilityMCXInternalLMXCheckPOST, MobilityMCXExternalLMXCheckGET, MobilityMCXExternalLMXCheckPOST, LMXSIPServerInternalDNS, LMXSIPServerExternalDNS, MobilityUCWAInternalCheckPOST, MobilityUCWAExternalCheckPOST
Automatic discovery of the Lync server failed. Please verify the server requirements at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=278998
Microsoft Lync Connectivity Analyzer cannot analyze deployment readiness until a discovery test has completed successfully.
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NOTE : For my current Set Up for Lync 2013 please refer this link & kindly ignore the SQL archiving & monitoring issue for database mismatch version as it is resolved:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/lync/en-US/032a8ef2-636d-40ae-a4f1-951e9a39999f/lync-2013-archiving-and-monitoring-sql-database-version-mismatch-issues?forum=lyncdeploy
Any help really appreciated
Regards
Anand S
Thanks & Regards Anand Sunka MCSA+CCNA+MCTS

Hi,
Please make sure there is no typos in the URL rewrite rule.
You can configure IIS ARR to display more information with the error with the following path:
Open IIS Manager –> Sites –> Default Web Site –> Error Pages –> Edit Feature Settings.
Select Detailed error
Then you can access simple URL again to check the full error message.
More details:
http://unifiedme.co.uk/2014/04/iis-arr-500-internal-server-error-get-meaning-full-info/
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Questions in setting up Security group policies for Lync 2013 Users

Hi Team,
One of our customer looking for the below requirements:
ü
B>>> Being able to split users in to groups. Would like to be able to split in to Departmental groups, the groups will be Service Delivery, Finance, Business Development, Clinical Services, Radiologists,
SLA Team, Call Handlers.
ü
B>>> Being able to control which users are able to contact or see other users. For example Limit Radiologists to only be able to see Service Delivery and Call Handlers
We know that RBAC policies can be used by Administrator or Technicians who works remotely. However, a user sitting at a server running Lync Server is not restricted by RBAC.
Question:
Is there a way we can fulfill the above customer requirements in Lync 2013 environment?

Hi,
On Lync Server side, what you can do is to change the AD attribute msRTCSIP-GroupingID. You can set different value for different groups. Then each group will not able to search the users in other groups with user name. However, they can still search the
users in other groups with the sip address.
More details:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jcalev/archive/2012/06/07/partitioning-lync-address-book-using-msrtcsip-groupingid.aspx
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Lync 2013: SQL instance - Shared or Not Shared !?

I'll keep this straight to the point... I'm implementing Lync 2013 at my company and we stumbled on one SQL Cluster situation that's causing some questions on the DBA team.
So the situation is....
Background:
We currently have a two node SQL 2008 R2 (SP2) Cluster with two instances in it that are shared for other applications.
Question:
Is it recommended by Microsoft (or any Lync Expert at all) to use one of these instances for Lync 2013 databases, or should it be a separated instance to host Lync 2013 Databases?
Note: If to be created the new instance, that instance will be living in the same cluster.
Thank you all in advance for comments on this.

Thanks to both for the replies. It does help me thinking about the subject.
I've meanwhile opened an advisory case with MS to check what they say about it. (I'm posting the results afterwards of course to share their advice)
I agree with both of you, and in fact I don't really like the idea of having a shared instance for Lync 2013 with other products (specially one of them that's in there that is Sharepoint 2013). I'm quite curious on knowing how will the instance behave once
Sharepoint 2013 decides to "eat up" all the resources...
I think that having the separated instance adds at least 2 very good (and important values) that is:
1 - Security (at the instance level.. no unwanted sysadmin's - we have persistent chat by some God forsaken reason... though I don't like the idea that a DBA with the right knowledge to read our C*O's chat's going around...)
2 - Resource assignment control (better memory control, possibility of "shifting" the instance to another place if necessary + if someone "brings down" the shared instance for any reason, lync can continue to function)
The IO concern regarding lots of SQLServer.exe running around, it's also a valid concern in my opinion, though at IO level is basically the same story because what matters is the DB file read-write operations that are ongoing and that will consume the same
resources either you're in a dedicated instance or separated one...
Still our DBA brings up the fact that we need to use a shared instance for everything and he wants me to put Lync all together with the other DB's (Sharepoint 2013 included...).
What are your thoughts about this?
Thanks once again for your time and comments.

Hardware Requirement for SP 2013 for 100 Users but many sites and functionalities

Hi,
We need to implement SharePoint 2013 containing the below:
100 users: 50 domain users and 50 forms authentication users.
Holding 60 sites:
12 main site collections and 30 sub sites for intranet use with windows authentication
One site collection with 30 sub sites for internet use with forms authentication
Using SharePoint Search to crawl Drives
Using SharePoint Web services for Mobile App
According to what I understand from
Hardware and software requirements for SharePoint 2013 I have 2 options:
Single server with SQL Server: 64-bit, 4 Cores - 24 GB RAM - 80 GB System Drive
Three-tier Farm:
2 servers (Web Tier and Application Tier) each of: 64-bit, 4 Cores - 12 GB RAM - 80 GB System Drive
One SQL Server: 64-bit, 4 Cores - 8 GB RAM - 80 GB System Drive
Is that right? If it is right, then which option is better for my requirements?
Thank you.

If you're really set to go with one server, you can do two-tier on the same server.
You can install SQL Server on the same server as SharePoint (this is the "complete" option in SharePoint, not the "standalone"). If you set up and use a SQL client alias (which you should), you can move the SQL instance at a later date without having to
rebuild your farm.
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Physical cpu to virtual cpu ratio for LYNC 2013 FE

what
should be the physical cpu to virtual cpu ratio for LYNC 2013 FE and Edge server, it is same like exchange 1:1 ?

Putting this here as well:
I don't believe this is documented anywhere. I typically see 6 cores, but I've run with 4 or 8 but in the end it's all about watching performance.
System Center Advisory for Lync can complain if it's not at least 8.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2877496
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