Light Table & Keyword Filtering - Bug?

Here's my scenario. Project with say 30 images. 10 have the keyword "Monday", 10 the keyword "Tuesday", and the remaining 10, "Wednesday". Select them all, and create a Light Table from selection.
So, I the Light Table 'album' I now filter all those with the keyword "Monday" (using the search - field top RH of the browser strip), all 10 are shown, and select my favourite 5. I drag these 5 to the viewer area (Light Table). I clear the keyword field to none (show all), and all thirty reappear - The 5 I dragged to the viewer now have the red '1' badges on their browser thumbnails and are still on the Light Table.
Next I type "Tuesday" into the search field. All 5 on the light Table disappear, and the browser shows me the 10 with the "Tuesday" keyword. Again, I select my favourite 5 and drag them to the (empty) Light Table. There they are etc.
So the crunch. I now clear the search field again, but where are the 5 I put up there keyworded "Monday"!? The 5 with "Tuesday are now up there, and sure, they're back in the browser, but they've lost their red '1' badges, and have been taken off the Light Table.
This seems crap to me. Perhaps I doing something wrong or is this a bug? I want to be able to put things on the Light Table, and have them stay there despite whatever search I conduct. Surely Aperture should remember which ones I've selected and leave them up there shouldn't it?
Thanks
Kevin

OK, so figured out a convoluted bodge-around:
1. Make an album of all your selects. Select all and make a new Light Table(LT) from all.
2. With LT selected, click the lock icon.
3. With LT still selected, hold down apple key, and select your album of selects (step 1). This opens this album in a separate tab, but because lock icon on LT is selected, the LT viewer area is still visible.
4. in you album of selects, type your chosen keyword search. From the resulting set, select and drag the image(s) to the LT viewer. Do this with as many keyword searches as required. When done you can optionally close the selects album tabbed browser.
5. Use LT as you normally would. You can now toggle on/off images by keyword by typing it in search field.
Any other methods I've tried crashes Aperture.
Comments anyone?

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