Lightroom 1.3 "Sidecar file has conflict" on .PSD files...

I've got some .psd files that I changed in Lightroom - they're layered photoshop files, saved with maximize compatibility. The change is to keywords on these files. At present I have about a dozen (that I know of) that appear NOT to be able to update their metadata. The error that displays when I put the mouse on the image's metadata icon is "Sidecar file has conflict".....
Mayhap I'm missing something, but there are no sidecar files that I know of. They're PHOTOSHOP files, not RAW. The only change to these files in Lightroom was to add, delete, or alter one or more keywords. Other files write metadata successfully, but these fail. How do I get LR to fix this?

Don, not that I'm doubting your statement, and in truth I can't recall whether or not there were jpegs with the same name, but if having a jpeg with the same filename causes this kind of problem, isn't that pretty much the definition of a BUG? Again, this seems a pretty major problem, although I suppose if it only happens occasionally and the people affected don't mind losing their changes, its no big deal...

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Sidecar file has conflict

* I imported several thousands photos (JPGs) into lightroom.
* I edited metadata of these photos before import in lr with some other tools
* I selected "Automatically write changes into XMP" in lr catalog settings
* I reorganized my keywords
==> I saw that some of those photos has "Sidecar file has conflict" (the "!" sign at the upper right corner in grid view)
* I searched for the error and I saw, that some of the photos did only have IPTC and no XMP metadata included.
* If I copy IPTC data to XMP, I can save metdata to file in lr
==> My question: Because there are thousands of photos: Is there a way to search only those photos which have "Sidecar file has conflict" in lr?

To all contributing on this thread -
A .bat file called from a Shortcut Icon works as Rob suggested: only two lines (in Windows).
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    Start "" "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 3.3\lightroom.exe"
The BadToFile.sql includes the code previously suggested with a couple of lines to define file name and turn headers off. I then set up a smart collection for LR marked images. Now occasionally when I want to update image, instead of selecting all and updating them with Ctrl-S, I:
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     4.     Hit Ctrl-S.
Not a bad short-term solution. Also, if I then exit and repeat the step, it leave in those few images that can't ever seem to get updated with Ctrl-S and I can work on them individually by clicking the update icon or Updating DNG Previews (sometimes these work).
Anyway thanks for this thread.
Jeff
PS - The marking "Red" also works similarly but the downside is that when selecting the collection of those that are "Red", you can't save them before removing the "Red" or they will continue to have a mis-match when the "Red" is removed. You have to first save a quick or dumb collection to not lose the selected group. Also, if you have color labels in use, it overwrites them in "Red" and can't remember what color it was before - can be a bummer.
PSS - After playing with the sqlite command window, I agree that the table structures of this LR database seem a bit of a mess. It has probably morphed over time and may not be the best design if one were starting from scratch. I therefore wouldn't want to spend too much time working with this database as a re-structure seems in order sometime in the future.

Error: Sidecar File has Conflict

Hi
I've just tried to work on a collection of files, previously edited in Lightroom, and found they are marked with a '!', which, when hovered over indicates that 'Sidecar File has Conflict'
Does anyone know what this means?
Thanks

When you have metadata conflict:
If you edited them in Silver FX, without going through "proper" Lightroom (Edit In) channel, and haven't edited them in Lightroom (since xmp was saved), then it's a bug. What Lr should have done is set the up-arrow icon (indicating external changes need to be incorporated in Lightroom). If you have changed photo in Lightroom too (since xmp was saved), then it's not a bug, since Lr doesn't know which changes to keep and which to discard - settings from one source must replace changed settings in the other source, to resolve conflict.
If you edited them by going through proper Lr-involved procedure (i.e. Edit In...), then it's a bug, because Lr (and companion app) should always "do the right thing" in this case.
Dunno if that answers your question, since I couldn't be sure what happened exactly based on your description.
The thing to do is make sure metadata is squared away (e.g. no down-arrow, no up-arrow, no exclamation icon..) before editing externally, then there should be no conflict - it there is, it's a bug and you can resolve (safely) by reading metadata from disk (Lr's metadata menu).
Conversely, if you haven't edited externally, there should be no conflict, and if there is, it's a bug, and you can safely resolve conflict by saving metadata to disk.
PS - Change Manager (a plugin I wrote) can be used to see exactly what is different between settings and metadata in catalog vs. disk (xmp).
Hope this helps,
Rob

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I am new to Lightroom and evalutating 3.6 on a trial.
I performed the following test:
1. Imported 3 pictures into Lightroom from my hard drive
2. In Lightroom, I made a keyword change to one photo (removed a keyword).
3. All three photos' Metadata icon show the arrow, indicating that there has been a change. (I only changed the keyword on one photo.)
4. I click the icon for the photo whose keyword I changed.
5. I get the message "The metadata for this photo has been changed in Lightroom. Save the changes to disk?"
6. I click "Yes".
7. The photo's Metadata icon shows an exclamation point. When you hover over the exclamation point, it shows the message "Sidecar has conflict".
I have two questions:
1. My expectation is that when I changed a keyword, or any other metadata, in LR, it will show up on the photo outside of LR. My understanding is that this is a functionality of LR. Am I wrong? (The Help files seem to indicate that this is a reasonable expectation.)
2. I am assuming, having read many posts on the forum, that the error message "Sidecar has conflict" is a bug. Am I right? (My understanding is that JPEGs don't have sidecar files, which just makes this message even more odd.)
I am on Windows 7 Home Premium (upgraded from Vista Home Premium), 32 bit.
Thanks for your help,
--Elisabeth.

Beat, Thanks for taking the time to answer.
Your expectation is not quite right:
Any change to metadata will primarily be recorded in your catalog, and nowhere else. Only if you perform "Save Metadata to File" (which can be set to be done automatically in your catalog settings) or "Save the Changes to Disk" after pressing the arrow, the changes will be written into your JPEGs (or into *.xmp sidecard files for Raw images) and can be seen from outside of LR.
Yes, you are right. What I should have written was: My expectation is that when I change a keyword, or any other metadata in LR, the change will show up outside of LR, after I "Save Metadata to File". This is not happening, instead I get the error message and different keywords in LR than outside.
Where do your originals reside? Could it be you don't have the proper authority to rewirte the JPEGs?
My originals reside on my Public drive: I definitely have rights. In fact, I did many other change to photos in the same drive after I posted this on the forum.

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Early on I thought (and hoped) that something must have gone terribly wrong at Adobe to permit some isolated issue to cause this fiasco, which would be quickly and readily addressed upon subsequent discovery. I haven't actively participated much here, expecting instead that the company would respond (and in part because of some holier than thou cheerleaders here encouraging working professionals who have real life problems as a result of LR3 with the likes of "just suck it up").
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