Lightroom 2.1 vs PS CS4

I understand that the Lightroom 2.1 Develop module uses the same back-end code as ACR 4.6. ACR 5, in CS4, is apparently different.
Will ACR 2.x have the same code as ACR 5, or will we need to upgrade to Lightroom 3.x, to have the equivalent Develop module?
CS4 can use a graphics processor in somewhat innovative ways to improve performance. Does ACR do this? Will it?
I'm currently a PS CS3 user, and would like to upgrade to either CS4 or Lightroom 2.1. I don't currently have the resources to do both. My interest is in photography, not graphic design, so LR may be a better choice. On the other hand, the performance enhancements from CS4 may be very useful.
Thanks!
David

> As Jeff Shewe has stated in other threads, they share the same pipeline but are completely unrelated.
The first part of what you said I said, I did say...that Camera Raw and Lightroom share the same processing pipeline. But I never said there were "unrelated". If this was in respect to the guy harping on wanting Camera Raw 5 because he "beta tested" Lightroom 2, you may have interpreted the fact I said the products are separate as being unrelated...
As for Camera Raw and Lightroom using the same code, that's not 100% accurate...they both SHARE the same code. But there are indeed differences...for example Lightroom has snapshots but Camera Raw can't see them. Camera Raw has a points editor and Lightroom doesn't. Lightroom has the TAT tools and Camera Raw doesn't...the one thing that can be said with 100% accuracy is that the same revision of Camera Raw and Lightroom will PROCESS files exactly the same.
Really, it's just simpler if you say that Camera Raw and Lightroom share the same processing pipeline and leave it at that.

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Christopher Bullinger wrote:
Hello all,
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