Lightroom 2.2 Printing Problems...color is way off

I have had issues with printing in Lr but never really cared since I used Zoombrowser to print most of my stuff for "around the house" and everything always looked fine (even if I modified the image in LR and printed from Zoombrowser). The colors coming from printing in Lr were always way off when using my Pixma IP4300.
I just purchased a Epson 3800 and now I would like to start using Lr for printing. I have tried everything I know and the colors are still way off when printed from Lr. I selected the appropriate color profile in LR for the printer and paper type, I turned off ICC color in the printer setup menu and the color is still off. If I save the Lr photo and print from Zoombrowser then it looks perfectly fine (still turning off ICC).
Now that I have a nice printer I'd love to be able to print right from Lr as it would save me alot of time and significantly increase my options.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Joe
Btw...I am using Vista Ultimate 64

I doubt the reason that I didn't get any replies is because people assumed I didn't search. There is no way of knowing who did and didn't search the forums before offering to help someone.
I searched the forums and found no problems similar to mine using the same OS, printer and Lr version.
Here is my problem with some more detail:
I am using Lr 2.2 64bit, Vista Ultimate 64, Epson 3800 Pro (6.5 drivers), Premium Lustre Photo Paper.
Here is what I am doing.
1) When in Lr and ready to print I select the Lr profile as "Pro38 PLPP" which is the 3800 Paper profile that is in the list of available profiles for Lr.
2) I select Relative (perceptual didn't appear to change anything)
3) I click "print" then I am taken to the 3800 selection menu.
4) I click properties next to the selected printer, I leave everything alone except for "mode"...I chaneg it from Auto to Custom and then select No color adjustment. Everything else appears fine...the paper type is correct etc. But when print the photo the reds come out pinkish etc etc. All of the colors are pretty far off.
I reinstalled the 64bit drivers from epson and nothing changed.
Any ideas?

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I have some new information to share based on some help I received from a Datacolor technical engineer (makers of the Spyder3 color management system) that has resulted in prints that I would consider a very close match to the screen images in Photoshop Elements 8 Mac using Color Handling = Photoshop Elements Manages Colors and not Printer Manages Colors (although that option also yields good prints and was the only was I was able to get decent print prior to this info from Datacolor).
I'm using a Canon i9900, Snow Leopard, Spyder 3 Studio - my monitor is calibrated using the Spyder3Elite (I don't think this matters so long as you're using some kind of calibration). Also I'm using a custom profile I created using the Spyder3Print Studio for the type of paper I'm using. In all previous attempts using Color Handling = Photoshop Elements Manages Colors under PSE8 yielded photos that were very different from the colors I saw on screen and it appears that the 'fix' came down to the profile I created: specifically the settings I used in the Canon driver, for printing the color targets for the custom paper were not correct. After reprinting the targets using the suggestions the Datacolor rep suggested and re-measuring, re-creating the ICC profile for that paper, I was able to print from PSE8 with decent results employing the new profile. The tech mentioned that Canon drivers do not have an 'off' setting for color management, so when I printed the original targets, it was employing a profile already (when creating targets for measurement you cannot use a profile
These are the settings in PSE8 that I'm using that are specific to the equipment I've noted above (this may not apply to Epson drivers etc):
Under Print - More Options - Color Management:
- Color Management = Photoshop Elements Manages Colors
- Printer Profile = the profile that matches the paper/Media setting
- Rendering Intent = Saturation (recommended for the Spyder3Print system but your setting may vary)
Once you hit 'Print' then the dialog for the printer driver comes up:
- Under Color Matching - you should find that it's greyed out but preselected to 'Colorsync' (if you selected Color Management = Photoshop Elements Manages Colors in PSE 8 Color Management)
- Under Quality and Media - set the media type to be the same as that set for the creation of the ICC profile. In my case = Photo Paper Plus Glossy
I don't adjust any of the other printer settings.
The last part of this has to do with the ColorSync Utility.
Under Devices - Printers - Canon i9900 - I've set all the listed profiles Current Profiles = Set to Factory (the default)
For printing the profile targets, the Datacolor tech mentioned my original profile had a gamut that was way too small for the printer and paper combination I was using. This was likely due to the fact that I printed the targets with an active printer profile vs no profile. Since the current Canon drivers don't have an 'off' setting the tech suggested that within the Spyder3Print application, when printing the targets use the following (his own words follow):
" in the Color Matching pane:
Color Matching- ColorSync
ColorSync- Other Profiles
Other Profiles- Generic RGB
What Generic RGB does is act like a pass through so that the driver uses the Printer Profile you selected or no profile at all, like in the case of printing the measurement charts in Spyder3PrintSR. So with these settings the Canon driver essentially acts like color management is turned off."
If you have a Canon printer and you're creating your own profiles I would try the above to see if you get similar results. Let me know if you have any questions about what I've written.

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