Lightroom 4 and XP users

I've purchased Lightroom since Version 1 but I guess version 3.6 will be the last. I'm running XP and have NO plans to convert to Windows 7 or especially VISTA because of older devices that still run OK and software I've downloaded with no CD as a backup. Thanks Adobe for cutting XP users off at the knees by not letting us take advantage of future improvements in your software. I hope Photoshop CS6 doesn't do this also!!

dtemplema wrote:
If I were a 6-figure photography pro I would. However, I'm a retiree trying to preserve my Medicare and SS from the republicans.
Again...you want to be posting in the Lightroom 4 Beta forum (not here in the LR 3 forum)...

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Lightroom and InDesign User Needed.

Hi Guys
I need around 30 images edited and retouched.
I then wish to create greeting cards from these images to send to friends/family.
Could somebody take on this project?
Preferably the designer will be in London, UK.
I am willing to pay, but to be honest, it'll be low.
If interested, contact me on [email protected]
Thanks
Bud Ro

What does that mean?

Is it NAS the solution for a PC and MAC common Lightroom and Photoshop files or Paragon software?

I'm a Pc user willing to by a Mac. Before to do that I need to solve the problem of having to share files stored in to external drivers formated in NTFS. I'm a Lightroom and Photoshop user with various TB photo archibes. I have been suggested to make use of a PARAGON softeware or to use a NAS link to the WiFi router. How would you solve the problem, please?

Ok.. much more complicated.
There is several things that add to the background of the story.
1. That you are trying to backup a USB drive drive already.. I strongly recommend CCC to do this.. as you cannot setup a separate task in TM to separate the backups. I can understand not wanting to add another USB and it is older iMac so usb2 only.
2. Your Express do add complexity.. yes they work better if using the TC..
Will replacing the ASUS with a TC improve my music streaming through the AE's given that it will all be apple then?
More than likely although hard to say.
Is the wireless range of the TC as good as the ASU in your opinion?
No, i have both and the Asus is very good.. but with the Express you can do more than you are doing.
What model Express and what model Asus we need to know to give a straight answer??
3. I assume that if I simply replace the ASUS with a TC and use same SSID and PW it should be an easy swap since we have many mobile and networked devices in the house?
I strongly recommend you start over with new names..
Problems in wireless networks are common.. and part of the problem is trying to make one wireless router pretend to be another .. you don't fool the clients that rely on MAC address, BSSID not SSID. And you don't fool the main router.. which now is lost as to the clients expecting one MAC address and getting another.
It doesn't take that long.. use a slightly different name but the same password is fine.. I have several wireless routers.. all use the same password but different SSID.

I need to change the storage hard drive for both lightroom and Photoshop from my C drive to F drive

How do I change my storage drive from C to F in both lightroom and photoshop as I am running out of space on my C drive?

Storage Drive ?? Photoshop. What Platform and OS are you running.
I use PC therefore Windows. When I thing about Application like Photoshop I know the are going to be files all over the place. Windows like everything installed on the Boot disk. I gave up the fight many years ago and let windows have it way when application are installed using an installer. However besides the application files you have user files and I break user files down into to categories. Windows User files like applications settings, preferences, cashes, etc and user Data Files, Images, text documents, PDF. Applications like Photoshop also have add-ons an need swap space as well. While all Windows default library reside on the C: drive you can add additional storage to you document, music, picture and video libraries the are not on the c: Most of my user data file are actually on external ESATA drives or USB3 drives. System files, Application Files, Paging, swapping and backup are on internal SSd and Fast Disk drive. Some of the folder that look like they are on C: are actually shortcut links to folders on other drives.

Lightroom and using the Edit in Photoshop CS3 Options

Today, I installed Lightroom v1.1 and Photoshop CS3 v10.0.1 I have an issue...Using Lightroom, I import a photo (JPG) into LR Library. Then, I right-click the photo and select the option to Edit In Photoshop CS3. This opens a window within Lightroom and there are three available options concerning What to Edit. Two Options reference Edit a Copy and One Option references Edit the Original. The two referencing Editing a Copy always says Lightroom cannot prepare the file for editing and that the file cannot be opened. If I select the last option to Edit the Original, that photo is brought into PS CS3 for Editing.
This is also the situation with files TIFF and PSD.
This is also the situation if I use a different Photo Editor other than PS CS3.
I have read the user manual and if I read correctly, the Two Options which do not work should also work. Or does my thinking need correction?
I would appreciate someone helping me with the understanding of this issue.
Thanks.
James

Thanks to you both. I do appreciate your responses. Please keep them coming.
I think Judith has a point.
I believe I should be able to Import a JPG from somewhere (HD, Floppy Drive, CD Drive)into the LR Library and then call upon Photoshop CS3 to Edit that JPG. If I am not incorrect, when reading the Lightroom Documentation, I see where this action is supported.
The action is: Right-Click a JPG (also TIF and PSD as well) in the LR Libary. From the menu presented, select Edit in the Adobe Photoshop CS3. A new Window appears from which to select either of two Edit a Copy Actions (with LR adjustments or without LR adjustments), I alway receive a Warning Window saying: Lightroom was unable to prepare the selected file at C:\Documents and Settings\My Name\My Documents\My Pictures\photo.JPG (or TIF or PSD) for editing. It will not be opened.
If I select Edit the Original, the photo is brought into CS3 for editing. This selection is the only one which work. I wish to point out that the Copy File Options are grayed-out with the Edit Original Selection. And, the Copy File Options are NOT Grayed-out with Copy Options.
In summary, if Copy File Options available, the JPG (or TIF or PSD) will not be prepared by Lighrooom for editing in CS3. My Copy File Options show TIFF and PSD pnly; no JPG. If I read correctly, I cannot Copy a JPG for editing into CS3. What I do not understand is if I have a TIFF or PSD in the Library, the Copy Option still fails to execute. The point John has made about RAW requires me to look into that aspect. I need to know more about that.
Can anyone right-click a JPG in the LR Libary. Then select Edit in CS3. Then use either of the two Copy Functions Selections for the action of that JPG being prepared by LR and brought into CS3 for editing?
This action will not work for me.
I do plan to update my version soon.
All replys and suggestions are welcomed.
Regards,
James

Using Lightroom and PS Elements

I have been a Lightroom user since the beginning and have PSCS3 for when I need to do some more involved editing. (Not very often - probably 95% of my editing/adjustments are done in Lightroom exclusively, including my RAW conversions.)
I have a friend who swears by PS Elements - which I have not used since I believe version 2. I played a bit on his computer and felt that probably everything that I use PSCS3 for I could also do in Elements. But I really don't need the Organizer - have already done all the importing/keywording in LR. So do if I decide to try out the trial version of PSE8:
(1) Do I have to install the Organizer?
(2) If I do have to install it, is there a way to bypass it - either from Windows or from Lightroom - and go straight to the Editor?
(3) What will I be missing from PSCS if I start with Elements - aside from 16 bit editing, which I VERY rarely do?
(4) Can Elements open any existing PSCS files I have?
Thanks,
Steve

Hi Steve,
Welcome to the world of PSE. I am glad that you are thinking of moving to PSE.
Here are the responses to your query:
1. Organizer and Editor are installed together on the machine, there is no way you can just install PSE Editor.
2. Simple way to bypass Organizer, is to go to ProgramFiles\Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0\ folder and create a desktop shortcut of PhotoshopElementsEditor.exe on the desktop and invoke it directly in place of PSE Welcome Screen.
3. In a nutshell, PSE is a subset of Ps CS3, so there will be some differences/limitations in PSE for sure. Say for e.g., there will be fewer adjustment layers, Pen tool and Patch tool aren't supported in PSE 6.0, Actions cannot be played(supported from E7 onwards), there will be no separate animation panel, etc.I would suggest you install PSE 8(current version) in trial and since you are less on edting side, so i think you will get what all limited editing functionality you strive for.
4. Elements can open Ps CS3 files successfully with ease.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ankush

Hi I have the old photo shop elements 10 on my computer and want to update and was wondering what the differences between photoshop, lightroom and photoshop elements are? Also when I upgrade does it have to be with a monthly membership or can I just purch

Hi I have the old photo shop elements 10 on my computer and want to update and was wondering what the differences between photoshop, lightroom and photoshop elements are?
Also when I upgrade does it have to be with a monthly membership or can I just purchase the product out right like you use to be able?

You cannot "update" from what you have to any of the applications you mention. It will have to be a straight purchase or subscription at full price.
Photoshop is a professional level application that makes no apologies for its very long and steep learning curve.
Lightroom is all about volume, and very light editing.
The Photoshop Elements forum is at:
https://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop_elements/content
Remember, you are not addressing Adobe here in the user forums. You are requesting help from volunteers users just like you who give their time free of charge. No one has any obligation to answer your questions.
I do not know where there is such a comparison table as you seek, but someone else might, or you can google.

I got a new MacBook pro and want to install my lightroom and elements 11.

I uninstalled both programs on my old computer and this computer were set to factory setting and sold.
When I try to install on my new computer - after informing my serial numbers, I get the answer, that this number is not correct. II of course checked again, and the typed numbers are correct. The same as mentioned on you webside under my file.
please help.
Kaj Aarup
Denmark

Hi,
thanks for mail. I now tried again to activate lightroom by copying the serial number on Adobe webside/my account. Unfortunately same result: I got the following message:
The serial number is invalid. Please try again: if the problem persist, please contact customer support.
Unfortunately the could or would not help - only referred to this chat page.
I have serial numbers for both version 4 and 5 and of course downloaded the latest, which is version 5.
regards
kaj
Den 10/03/2015 kl. 11.37 skrev NicHamilton <[email protected]>:
I got a new MacBook pro and want to install my lightroom and elements 11.
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Hi Kaj,
firstly this is a user to user forum so it's not our website, nevertheless I'm sure we can help you.
Firstly, are the serial numbers you're using for the same version of Lightroom?
If they are, then I'd suggest copying the serial numbers straight from your profile on the Adobe website to the Lightroom screen rather than retyping. It's easy to mistype even when you're sure you're not (we've had several such instances in the past).
Can you five us the exact wording of the error message (or a screen grab as long as it doesn't reveal the serial numbers as this a public forum)?
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Using trial version of Lightroom and photoshop. Plan to buy. but i have a question: I have two computers a desktop and a laptop that i use when i travel can the programs be installed in both computers?

Using trial version of Lightroom and photoshop. Plan to buy. but i have a question: I have two computers a desktop and a laptop that i use when traelling. Can i download the programs on both computers?

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Question. CC for Lightroom and Photoshop and, in say 5 years or so, become inactive.

What access would I have to my photos if I sign up for CC for Lightroom and Photoshop and then become only an occasional user. Will I still be able to find my photos using Lightroom? Will I be able to search for photos using keywords? Will I be able to see metadata?
Thanks.
Fritz Schafer

Dave Merchant wrote:
If you stop subscribing, the software stops working.
This aspect is indeed going to be a rude awakening for many users some day.

Lightroom upload to Adobe Revel no longer supported?!? Future of Lightroom and Revel?!?

Hi,
currently I'm Pro-User of Adobe Revel and I upload all photos with Adobe Lightroom 4 to my Revel account.
I googled a little bit around because I'm not able to upload videos via Lightroom and i found this link:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1162795.
On this page it is said that Adobe will not continue plugin support for Lightroom and Revel.
Could somebody (or anybody - sorry for my english) tell me more about the future of Adobe Lightroom and Adobe Revel?!? Would be great and helpful....
Thanks in advance
Stephan

Stephan hi
yes, there is no way to use the revel plugin from LR anymore.
i am also finding this very strange as both are adobe products & no integration anymore?
i use LR as a database for all my images
and was exporting to revel, only the ones that i need to share
this is very frustrating and unexpected from adobe
maybe they will come up with a new revel plugin
but no official word from adobe yet
i have been exploring various options for sharing like smugmug, flickr etc
but have more faith in adobe, as i have been a LR and photoshop user for many years
just started using revel on free trial account, certainly wont take their PRO service without the LR/REVEL integration
i also feel that revel has been around for couple+ of years
but they lack many basic features, compared to others like smugmug
i understand a new service/app takes time to develop, but by now, they should have nailed it
for eg: if i webshare an album with a friend, he can download the individual 50 pictures one by one
there is no option to download the entire album in one go, very frustrating and very basic feature
seems like this is a hobby project for adobe and they aint investing much into this service
though their annual subscription charges are at par with others like smugmug and probably more than some others
the revel forum is also not very active from adobe's side
they should realise that people like you & me, and many others explore first and then finalise a service for good and stick to it
what if i go towards smugmug and upload all, i wont be changing back to revel, as its a lot of hassel organizing and re-uploading again
if anyone listening/monitoring these threads on adobe forum
please reply

What os does lightroom and photoshop run best on? Mac or PC?

What os does lightroom and photoshop run best on? Mac or PC?

I don't know to which project files you are referring but:
The Lightroom Catalog (a single file on both)
The Previews (a single folder on both)
The Smart Previews (a single folder on both)
Presets, Settings and Such (in identically nested folders within the OS construct on both)
Take it from an experienced user in both OS's. Mac simplifies somethings - PC simplifies others.

Photoshop Elements, Lightroom and Nik Software Lightroom Edition experience working together?

I have Photoshop Elements 10 and number of plugins, like Topaz Labs ones. I have also just acquired Lightroom. I do want to get CS5 eventually but that is not in the near future.
I am thinking of getting Nik Software's Complete Collection. It does not support Elements 10, but it does support Lightroom. So solution seems easy, just use it in Lightroom. That solution could also result in $200 saving as edition that includes support for Photoshop and Lightroom is right now $399 while one that supports just Lightroom (and Aperture but that is not of relevance to me as I am a Windows user) is $199.
However, I do not want to lose benefits of other plugins I have so going with solely Lightroom edition means increased going back and forth between Photoshop and Lightroom.
So question for those experienced with 3 of these together: Do you foresee issues with getting edition that just supports Lightroom? What things I might feel are missing / might frustrate me with this approach?

I’ve not used Nik Software but have used Lightroom and PSE together and the two programs integrate well. If Elements was already installed Lightroom should automatically recognize it as your external editor otherwise you need to set up external handling in Lightroom preferences.
I assume any changes made in Lightroom with a Nik plug in will register as part of the Lightroom Develop settings. Is that how it should work?
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1) Press Ctrl+E to edit in photoshop - choose PSD with Lightroom settings
2) Image opens automatically in PSE Editor
3) Do further editing in PSE and press Ctrl+S to save an overwrite the Lightroom export copy. Click OK
4) Press Ctrl+W to close the saved PSD file which automatically updates the Lightroom thumbnail.
It all works quite seamlessly. Use the PSD copy in light room to export a jpeg or any other format of your choosing.

COLOR DISPLAY IN LIGHTROOM AND PHOTOSHOP

Hi I am a new user of Lightroom but a longtime user of Photoshop.
My question is this:
When opening the exact same TIFF file in Lightroom and Photoshop CS3 is there a way to configure Lightroom so that it will display the image exactly like Photoshop ? I mean the difference that I get is not dramatic but if there is a way to make it perfect I would love to know.
Thanks,
Claude from Montreal

Hey Claude,
if it did not have an attached profile it is almost definitely in sRGB or, more rarely, Apple RGB. Lightroom always assumes sRGB for untagged files which is typically a safe bet. Photoshop generally uses the working space for untagged images. Since you had adobeRGB there, you should get a more saturated image in photoshop then in Lightroom. The same data is simply interpreted in a different color space leading to different colors. This has nothing to do with the monitor profile therefore and my initial hunch was wrong. So for untagged images in photoshop, you should usually assign sRGB to them instead of working space.
>As for calibration hardware we do use them here so I will use it but since the Mac was brand new out the box I assumed that it was ok...
Unfortunately, in general the canned calibration is not very good on Macs. I find very large differences between the shipped profile and a profile generated by a calibrator. Also, Apple ships profiles that set your display's gamma to 1.8 instead of the standard 2.2. This leads to many images in webbrowsers being too low contrast. Even Apple suggests recalibrating your screen at 2.2 if you do digital photography work (it's in their Aperture help files). In this case though the difference between Lightroom and Photoshop had nothing to do with the monitor profile but was related to photoshop interpreting untagged files in its working space instead of the more likely sRGB space.

Lightroom and CS5 and Aperture Workflow?

I am trying to put the finishing touches on a year and a half long port to mac from windows. My expectation is that I will be purchasing CS5 (Illustrator, Photoshop and InDesign) and I was hoping there would be a user or two on the forum that may be able to just advise me as to whether I am moving in the correct direction. Also, I was hoping to get a heads up on how Lightroom might fit into the following proposed workflow. Here is what I am anticipating:
1. Export necessary images from Aperture into folder named "Aperture" with sub-folders by project name.
2. "Photoshop" folder (with project sub-folders) for any edited images, transparency overlays, etc.
3. "Illustrator" folder (with project sub-folders) for any vector editing of images and/or individual vector files
4. "InDesign" folder (with project sub-folders) for ID posterboards, publications etc that reference files in Photoshop and/or Illustrator folders.
5. "Keynote" folder (with project sub-folders) for presentation that reference files in Photoshop and/or Illustrator folders.
6. "Uploads" folder for any images uploaded to ftp that cannot be done from within the Aperture interface.
Does anyone know if this looks about right, how Lightroom might fit into this workflow and/or whether there is a way to streamline this in any way?
In the past I've tended to be very reliant on dragging and dropping and copying images images across my hard drive for access and organization in various projects (web media, proposals, publication, papers, etc, etc) but as I start working in Aperture I can obviously see the benefits of keeping a lot of this data within Aperture. That said, some of this workflow is a bit hard to anticipate and I'd also like to know what I need to buy to get it optimized.
TIA for any suggestions or help.

Lightroom and Aperture serve identical purposes. There is no reason to use both.
Since they serve identical purposes, at least at the macro-planning stages, you can substitute one for the other in any workflow.
There is nothing in your proposed workflow that I would recommend.

Advice please on Lightroom and CS on Creative Cloud

A few months back I enquired as a long term user of Lightroom since the very first beta before Lightroom 1 and Photoshop Elements for even longer whether there was a way to get Lightroom 5 and CS inexpensively through the Creative Cloud but was told that Lightroom and Elements didn't qualify me for that deal. So I bought the £57 upgrade to Lightroom 5. I now see that there is a 'time limited' deal offering Lightroom 5 and CS for £8.78 a month. This was the very deal I was after but I have now invested in Lightroom 5 ...what should I do. And if I jump to the Cloud will this sort of deal continue at the end of the first year. I can afford/justify this cost but not a big hike of that.
Please advise and what I should do with my old Lightroom 5 licence...can I sell that on? Otherwise it seems I have paid twice...
Photoshop CC and Lightroom Limited-time only: Get both apps for one great price.
Annual plan for
£8.78
per month
incl. VAT
Many thanks,
Paul
A longtime Lightroom advocate

Hi BetaPlus5,
Welcome to Adobe Forum,
You can keep Lightroom 5 or opt for transfer of license to another person.
In transfer of license you can sell it & follow the procedure to transfer the product to the purchaser.
Regards
Rajshree

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