Lightroom 4 - Open Smart Object in Photoshop (or rather do not!)

Opening a PV2012 image as a smart object into Photoshop works ... except that all Lightroom adjustments are ignored.
No doubt this will be fixed when Adobe releases Photoshop CS6 and ACR 7.0 ... but that the latest version of Lightroom does not work properly with the latest release of Photoshop is nothing short of dreadful.
(Pretty smart marketing though, cause every time I upgrade Lightroom I also have to upgrade Photoshop! I for one will be waiting to see if Adobe have the decency to release ACR 7.0 to run on CS5 ... and if not then my decision will be based on how good CS6 is as I do not see that LR4 has anything that I can't do with some plug-ins (like geoencoding and reverse geoencoding). Of course if you want to write a book or do some trivial video editing then maybe LR4 will appeal to you.)
Very disappointing, when you consider that new cameras now have features like built-in HDR processing and Lightroom does not even have this - so that Photoshop or third-party software is required.

Jeff Schewe: Yes, Jeff, I'm well aware of that, having had to buy multiple versions of Lightroom and Photoshop, right up to LR4 and CS5.
In fact, the only reason for not releasing ACR 7.0 (or whatever) with LR4 has nothing to do with integration or functionality and everything to do with money: Adobe do not want to give away anything for free. So if you open an ACR object using ACR 6.7, what you get is all of the functionality of Camera Raw, with the exception of the Basic Highlights/Shadows/Whites and Blacks sliders. Everything else works just fine. And this is opening a PV2012 Smart Object, not a PV2010 Smart Object.
What Adobe have done is simply to grey-out these sliders: not because they would not work, but because if they had not greyed them out then they would be giving free additional functionality to CS5 users.
HOWEVER ... as I have purchased LR4 which supports PV2012 (and therefore has the full Camera Raw support for PV2012) I should NOT have to buy Photoshop CS6 just in order to get ACR 7.0. Adobe needs to find a way around this - and it would seem fairly simple to me for Photoshop to use the Lightroom raw engine if both Photoshop and Lightroom are present on the same machine (this is not rocket science). This would mean that we would not need to use Camera Raw at all: the raw processing functionality would be provided by Lightroom.
Alternatively, Adobe could release a version of Camera Raw 7.0 (say ACR-LR4-7.0) that would only work if Lightroom 4 was also present. Again this is not rocket science.
Or Adobe could release Camera Raw as a separate chargeable product (at a reasonable cost of let's say $25) so that they could make some money out of it without forcing people who do NOT want Photoshop CS6 to buy it JUST for ACR 7.0.
I'm pretty amazed the people aren't screaming about this ... cause it REALLY annoys me!

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I am running Photoshop CC (up to date as of today) and Lightroom 5.2. I am hitting 2 major problems. In Photoshop if I select File/Browse in Bridge I get the following message
"Could not complete the Browse in Bridge command because Photoshop was unable to find the JavaScript plug-in".
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"The file could not be edited because Adobe Photoshop CC could not be launched."
Rather strange message as the first thing that happened was that Photoshop CC opened!!
Same thing happens if try "photo/Edit in/Edit in Adobe Photoshop CC" except that having shut down photoshop I see a message from Lightroom 5.2 saying
Lightoom was unable to prepare the selected file at ..... for editing. It will not be opened.
When I click the OK button on this message low and behold the tif version of the RAW file opens in Photoshop. ready for futher editing with all the Lightroom edits applied.
Can anyone help me in sorting out this problem please
Operating system is Windows 8 64 bit and I am running the 64 bit Adobe applications.

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Significance of Open as Smart Object in Photoshop

I'm struggling to see the significance of the "Open as Smart Object in Photoshop" feature in Lightroom 2 + CS3? I can't see how this is any different/better than just using the "Edit in Photoshop CS3" option?
Can someone please explain the difference and why I would want to use one over the other?

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I'm struggling to see the significance of the "Open as Smart Object in
> Photoshop" feature in Lightroom 2 + CS3? I can't see how this is any
> different/better than just using the "Edit in Photoshop CS3" option?
>
> Can someone please explain the difference and why I would want to use
> one over the other?
I believe there is one reason. With a file opened as a smart object, you
can go back to ARC and change something. You cant do that when opened as a
regular file.
John Passaneau

LR4.1 : "Edit-In" "Open as Smart Object with Photoshop..." feature doesn't work with 32bits

Hi there,
I am running LR4.1/CS5/ACR6.7 on a Win7 64bits system.
The feature "Edit-In" > "Open as Smart Object with Photoshop..." does work Ok with raw files (.NEF).
However, when i do try to use the same feature with 32 bits .TIFF files (which are output of the LR4.1's "Edit-In" > "Merge to HDR Pro in Photoshop..." other feature), nothing does happen (the Photoshop application windows does open but w.o the image that i've just selected).
I've used search engines and Adobe online help to see if there was any limit preventing the usage of this feature with 32 bits .TIF files but couldn't see such note.
Thanks for your help !
Albert

Thanks Rikk,
That did work with a DNG file :-)
I am working with very huge .TIF files (400MB), so i am wondering if size could be the main issue (although my PC has lots of HW resources).
I will explore the DNG way, a format which seems anyways to be very promising now with LR4.
In case anyone has an idea why it doesn't work the .TIF files, please shoot !

How to open smart object in camera raw

Hi,
As the subject line reads, I'm having trouble opening a smart object in camera raw. Every tutorial I read or watch says, "double click on your smart object thumbnail to open the image in camera raw." But every time I do, all it does is open a copy of the image as a .psb file.
Before you ask,
-The images I work with are stock images, JPG's.
-I've tried to find an option in Photoshop > Preferences that will let me open smart objects in camera raw all the time;
-I've tried opening these files directly in camera raw. When I do, there's a little link below the image that reads something like,
Adobe RGB (1998); 8 bit; 2008 by 3000 (6.0 MP); 240 ppi
I click on it, and there's a 'click box for "open in Photoshop as smart objects"; clicking this will allow me to open the image in Camera Raw upon double clicking on the thumbnail. But it will only work that way for that one instance of that one image.
Anyway to make this happen?
Thanks,
KP

What is the .extension after your filename on this file? Needs to be .jpg, .tif or .psd. Then choose open, and change format to Camera raw.
If you are saving as .jpg, the smart object has been bitmapped, and is a no longer smart object.

Spot Channels & Smart Objects in Photoshop CS4

Please Help!
I am trying to replace a smart object in Photoshop CS4 with a .psd, pdf or tiff image that contains a spot channel and it is not being honored in Photoshop
The Channel tab does not honor the "Spot Channel" from the replaced Smart Object image.
Question is: How can I replace a Smart Object and hold the spot channel?
Thank you

I don't believe spot channels transfer from smart objects but there is a workaround.
1. Select Smart Object Layer. Layer: Smart Objects: New Smart Object Via Copy
2. Open the new smart object
3. Load spot channel as a selection.
4. Layer: New Fill Layer: Solid color.
5. Hide or delete all other layers.
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Hi all,
This is probably an insultingly simple query but:
I've created a map in Illustrator, opened this as a smart object in Photoshop and dragged it in as layer in a PSD.
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Thanks for your help, but still no joy I'm afraid.
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Smart Objects between Photoshop, Illustrator and Dreamweaver while managing the version in Vesion Cu

Ok, so the title of this post sounds confusing. First off, I created a graphic in Illustrator CS3. It is to be used on a web page created in Dreamweaver CS3. I want to be able to streamline the editing process by using the Smart Object linking feature between Dreamweaver and Photoshop CS3.
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My assumption was, when I double clicked on the Smart Object layer in Photoshop, I would get the local copy of the Illustrator file to edit. But, that wasn't the case. Problem is, I got a temp file of the Illustrator graphic and NOT the original source file I linked to in Photoshop.
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Ok, so far I have come up with this solution. Usually after editing the Illustrator file I would check it in. But, as mentioned, I can't just do that because the file I'm editing is the temp file and not the original file syncronized with Version Cue.
So, instead of using Check-In when I'm done, I can use Save As... I can then overwrite my local file that is syncronized with Version Cue. That will save the new file as the correct name and automatically check it into Version Cue as the next version of the correct file.

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What program are you using?
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Problem with pasting a smart object in Photoshop

I create artworks using both Illustrator and Photoshop by pasting different elements as smart objects in Photoshop on different layers but I often have a problem.
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Just so you are aware, photoshop has a bug when sensing illustrator files.
If your starting with a new document and letting photoshop sense the size from the clipboard, set the physical size to inches or centimeters before changing the ppi from 72 to 300. By default, photoshop is set to pixel dimentions and ppi is disabled even though you can type in a new value, it does not alter the size any.

Jagged edge of Smart Objects in Photoshop CS4!

Vector graphics created in Illustrator CS4 and pasted as Smart Objects into Photoshop CS4 used to appear perfectly smooth. This has stopped. I now get very jagged edged Smart Objects which are quite useless. I have checked all the Edit preferences and made sure Anti Alias is turned on in the Illustrator files to no effect. What can be done about this? What has suddenly changed and why? Would uninstalling & reinstalling CS4 solve this problem? Has anyone else experienced this and found the solution?

Hi OldBob1957,
Thanks for your helpful suggestion and the links which I've noted for future
reference.
However, I think the problem is solved and I'm indebted to Chris Cox of
Photoshop Family for
No idea. The only time I saw this happen was when someone mistakenly turned
off the antialias
feature when placing the smart object. (which is why I put the antialias
checkbox in the transform
toolbar to make it more visible in later releases)
And of course when I checked I had done exactly that and been struggling for
weeks!
Now unblinkered.
Regards,
John

Lightroom 5 file edited in photoshop cc 2014 does not appear back next to original after save. Is anyone else having this issue? If so what is the fix. The edited image appears back in lightroom in a new folder.

Lightroom 5 file edited in photoshop cc 2014 does not appear back next to original after save. Is anyone else having this issue? If so what is the fix. The edited image appears back in lightroom in a new folder.

I'm performing a normal "Save", not "Save As". Work flow I'm using is as follows: Select photo in Lightroom 5.7 >" Edit In" Photoshop CC 2014 > (after working on photo is PS) > Save > close PS. Photo returns to Lightroom 5.7 in a new folder rather than next to the original. Prior to purchasing the monthly plan and upgrading to PS CC 2014, I performed this same work flow using Lightroom 5.6 and Photoshop CS6 without any issues.
Just for fun... I attempted to move the edited file back into the original folder. I received a prompt that said the file already existed in the original folder, however I can't see it except the new folder that LR created. I tried several different sort orders, etc without any success.
*** Follow up: Was unable to resolve the issue using Photoshop CC 2014. Uninstalled PS CC 2014 and went back to using Photoshop CS6. Return trips from LR 5.7 to Photoshop is now performing as it should: returning edited photo back to the original folder in LR 5 and placing next to the original image.
Should anyone have a suggestion on getting Photoshop CC 2014 to do the same, I would love to be educated.
Thanks for the help, dj_paige.

Opening DNG as a Smart Object into Photoshop CS5?

I am using a Windows 7 64 bit platform and CS5 64 bit. I have the most recent Camera Raw plug in for my Nikon D3100 camera. In Bridge you are supposed to be able to open a dng file in Camera Raw, make your corrections and then by holding the Shift key it should change the open file button to open it as a Smart Object. When I do that nothing opens in in Photoshop.
Any suggestions?
P

Jeff Schewe wrote:
pbfp wrote:
Can you tell me how to access the workflow settings?
Pretty simple (and the settings are sticky), open a raw image and in the center where the processing info is shown (lower center link) which acts both as an info readout AND a button to change the Workflow Options settings, click on this link...it'll give you a dlog to change the Workflow Settings.
Alter the settings and click Done (cancel doesn't work since it works as a Cancel).
Thereafter, unless you make changes, the Workflow Options should be sticky.
Thank you Jeff for the information.
Please let me know if you think the worflow settings are wrong: Here is how the workflow is currently set: Space: Adobe RGB 1998; Depth: 16bits/channel; Size 34072 x 4608 (14.2 MP); Resolution: 260 p/in.; Sharpen: None; Amount: none; The bix is checked to open in Photoshop as a Smart Object.
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Why does the Amount slider of Camera's RAW Detail Panel revert to 0 when opening a Smart Object in Photoshop?

I use CS6 on a Mac running 10.6.8. I edit images in RAW, then covert to a Smart Object for final editing in Photoshop. I've noticed the image in Photoshop is not sharp, and when I check by returning to RAW, I can see that just the Amount slider (Detail Panel) has reverted to 0, but the other sliders are as I have set them.
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Blurry smart objects in Photoshop Save for Web jpegs

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There are parts that are being added in Photoshop, hence going from Illustrator through Photoshop as a Smart Object and then onto PowerPoint. If I wasn't 5 months down the line and just nearing deadline, I would recreate everything in Illustrator. Assuming that I have to continue at this point down the Illustrator through Photoshop line of working, how do you designate pngs or jpegs to be 220ppi. Jpegs have a 1-12 quality (and 12 is still blurry).
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