Lightroom 4 performance

Is it ok to have Lightroom 3 and Lightroom 4 installed on my computer at the same time or should I uninstall lightroom 3? Does it pose a performance issue? Lightroom 4 is so slow on my computer.

Thank you for responding! Should I have removed the Beta version before I
installed LR4?
This is what my system has in it although I do not have a graphics card. Would
it make a difference?
Lightroom version: 4.1
Operating system: Windows Vista Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 6002)
Version: 6.0
Application architecture: x86
System architecture: x86
Physical processor count: 2
Processor speed: 3.2 GHz
Built-in memory: 3317.3 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 716.8 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 475.8 MB (66.3%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 493.0 MB
Memory cache size: 0.0 MB
System DPI setting: 96 DPI
Desktop composition enabled: Yes
Displays: 1) 1280x1024
Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4.1
Library Path: C:\Users\John\Pictures\Lightroom 4 Beta\Lightroom 4 Beta-2.lrcat
Settings Folder: C:\Users\John\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom
Adapter #1: Vendor : 8086
            Device : 2772
            Subsystem : 544e8086
            Revision : 2
            Video Memory : 0
AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024
AudioDeviceName: Speakers/HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2
AudioDeviceSampleRate: 44100
Build: Uninitialized
Direct2DEnabled: true
Direct2DPresent: true
OGLEnabled: false
OGLPresent: false

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