Lightroom 5.4 JPG too dark. Faulthy export.

I updated lightroom 5.3 to 5.4. After this when i export a RAW (NEF) file to JPG, the JPG is too dark . It should be the same. Please help.

This is a duplicate post, original is here:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1448794
(granted, this one has a better title )

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Lightroom 5 Prints are too Dark - We Need a Fix Now!

Hi
Am using LR 5.7
I import images in RAW and convert to DNG.
hen I export as a JPG and print, the prints are fine.
When I print from Lightroom's Print Module, the prints come out too dark with a significant loss of detail in shadow.
Adobe.... This has been a major problem since version LR 1... It is High time you fixed it! I have wasted dozens of sheets of paper due to this problem!!
My screen is a 24" calibrated IPS ASUS monitor.
Windows 7, 64Bit.
Many Thanks
Kind Rgds
Rob

Robert Mack wrote:
Hi Butch
Do a google search for Lightroom Prints too Dark and you will find dozens of posts for all versions of LR. It is a common problem.
There are many hardware and software issues that according to a "Google search" would appear as a universal problem, while in reality, they are far from widespread. I can assure you that Lightroom would not be as popular as it is today if this were indeed a universal problem.
Robert Mack wrote:
I also upload images from LR to a Print Lab and the prints are fine.
Yes, but is your lab making adjustments to the images during the print process? Many do. My labs do not, they simply print the files as they are submitted. Many consumer and "pro"-sumer labs apply auto correction to image files. Most of these labs do not even inform you that they are applying those adjustments.
Robert Mack wrote:
The problem is using the LR Print Module to print on a printer attached to my PC.
I have the same problem with an Epson R1900 and a Mitsubishi
Yes ... and if you are applying the same settings/instructions in Lr for printing, the problem will persist regardless of the brand of printer used.
Robert Mack wrote:
LR had ICM managed by Printer. The Printer has ICM managed by Host.
I did try this using the printer's ICM profile within LR. Still too dark.
This could be part of your problem ... if Lightroom is set for the printer to handle color management by the printer ... and your printer is set to be color managed by the host (i.e. - Lightroom) ... then in actuality, the images you are printing from Lightroom are not being color managed at all. Ideally, you should have Lightroom set to manage printing when you have the printer driver set to "managed by Host" ...
Robert Mack wrote:
No windows apps are adding any additional processing in the printing process as far as I am aware of. The only exposure correction / adjustment was done in LR..... I am choosing the same printer paper profiles in all methods of printing.
You may not be making settings in your Windows apps ... but if your printer driver is set to make auto adjustments by default when printing from these apps could explain the difference.
Additionally, many folks think they are "calibrating" their monitors when they are not doing so as it pertains to printing. Accurate color is only one phase. While your colors may appear true, the monitor brightness may be too much to accurately render a near match of what a printed version of the image would be reproduced.
As trshaner pointed out, not only do you need to render a close approximation of color ... but also overall brightness. Most monitors/displays, even very expensive and high resolution displays, are extremely bright at default settings for rendering a close match for printed material. That overall brightness level should fall within 90 to 120 cd/m2 and be adjusted as needed for your specific viewing environment and papers and printer inks combinations.

Workaround for too-dark Compressor exports

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Thanks

I've seen a few threads here about video exported from FCP X (Share->Export Media...) then opened in Compressor being noticeably darker (both viewing and exporting). I started noticing the same thing about two months ago. I've tried tweaking the Gamma, Brightness, and Contrast settings when exporting from Compressor but have not found the magic combination to just retain the same look as in the FCP X timeline. Someone mentioned using Share->Export Using Compressor Settings... as a workaround - and it works! The videos come out looking the same! So far, so good.
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Hello, RAW snaps too dark in Lightroom.

Hello,
I made a snap with D-Lichting automatic in JPG and in RAW format at the same time.
When I look to the snaps in Photoshop I remark a difference in histogram. Both snaps have the same wave length, not the same frequencies. The red and blue colors’ are a higher in RAW; the green colour is higher in JPG!
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The same RAW picture opened in Lightroom is dark, under-exposed you should think.
Could I get some advice to get solved this problem?
Many thanks in advance
Marianne

Dear Rob,
ADL is off and I made again some snaps. RAW ( NEF) and JPEG are taken at the SAME time.
When I have a look tot snaps in Lightroom they look ok. When I have imported them in Lightroom they are still too dark = over exposed. What could be happen?
vriendelijke groet!
Marianne
Van: Rob Cole
Verzonden: woensdag 29 oktober 2014 13:41
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rasu wrote:
… What do you mean by export in an mp4 wrapper? Do you mean export it as an mp4 format instead of H264?? …
no, exactly I did NOT meant that.
that's why I phrased 'wrapper':
a bit confusing, but there's mpeg4, the codec, and there's mp4 the wrapper or media-container:
• use your .mov you have already exported, which has the right colors.
• download/install the free tool Mpeg Streamclip
• open your mov, go straight to 'save as' and choose from drop down mp4
• save and upload that mp4 for comparison to Vimeo
• (tell us, wether you notice any difference, as said, just an assumption)
What will that do?
your h264 encoded material is actually in a .mov-wrapper
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this does NOT encode/transcode/affect your h264 material!
it just changes the box, not the chocolate!
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... but, as mentioned, I do care very little about gamma and luma as an hobbyist, my 'products' are under-exposured and veeery colorful anyhow

I am using Lightroom 5.7, 64 bit with Windows 7 Professional. For no apparent reason, I now get an error message when I export a photo, say a raw image to a JPG. However, the exported image seems to be OK. But now I notice that my LR directory of folders

I am using Lightroom 5.7, 64 bit with Windows 7 Professional. For no apparent reason, I now get an error message when I export a photo, say a raw image to a JPG. However, the exported image seems to be OK. But now I notice that my LR directory of folders in Library view does not show images correctly: If there is a folder with sub-folder(s), the folder will indicate 0 images, but the sub-folders show the proper number of images. What happened and is there a fix? I tried uninstalling Lightroom and re-installing, but problem persists.
Here is a screen shot of the error message:
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See here for a solution.

Hello, I have a Windows 7 Pc where Lightroom 5 is on installed. When I open a photo using " verkenner" I see a good coloured photo. When I open a photo via Lightroom 5, the photo will be too dark. This gives difficluties during shaping the photograph. C

Hello,
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When I open a photo using " verkenner" I see a good coloured photo.
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My exported black and white pictures are too dark. I checked the pictures and the exif info contains information about the color profile RGB and sRGB (see below), but still the browsers (firefox and safari) ignore this and display the pictures way to dark. Is there a way to fix this? firefox has color management enabled and safari probably too. As for firefox: there are probably users that do not have color management enabled and it should work for them as well.
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Color Space Data
: RGB
Profile Connection Space
: XYZ
Profile Date Time
: 1998:02:09 06:49:00
Profile File Signature
: acsp
Primary Platform
: Microsoft Corporation
CMM Flags
: Not Embedded, Independent
Device Manufacturer
: IEC
Device Model
: sRGB
Device Attributes
: Reflective, Glossy, Positive, Color
Rendering Intent
: Perceptual
Connection Space Illuminant
: 0.9642 1 0.82491
Profile Creator
: HP
Profile ID
: 0
Profile Copyright
: Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company
Profile Description
: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Media White Point
: 0.95045 1 1.08905
Media Black Point
: 0 0 0
Red Matrix Column
: 0.43607 0.22249 0.01392
Green Matrix Column
: 0.38515 0.71687 0.09708
Blue Matrix Column
: 0.14307 0.06061 0.7141
Device Mfg Desc
: IEC http://www.iec.ch
Device Model Desc
: IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB
Viewing Cond Desc
: Reference Viewing Condition in IEC61966-2.1

Thanks a lot for helping me to track this down. Looking at EXIF information with EXIF tool I get:
Profile CMM Type
: Lino
Profile Version
: 2.1.0
Profile Class
: Display Device Profile
Color Space Data
: RGB
Profile Connection Space
: XYZ
Profile Date Time
: 1998:02:09 06:49:00
Profile File Signature
: acsp
Primary Platform
: Microsoft Corporation
CMM Flags
: Not Embedded, Independent
Device Manufacturer
: IEC
Device Model
: sRGB
Device Attributes
: Reflective, Glossy, Positive, Color
Rendering Intent
: Perceptual
Connection Space Illuminant
: 0.9642 1 0.82491
Profile Creator
: HP
Profile ID
: 0
Profile Copyright
: Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company
Profile Description
: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Media White Point
: 0.95045 1 1.08905
Media Black Point
: 0 0 0
Red Matrix Column
: 0.43607 0.22249 0.01392
Green Matrix Column
: 0.38515 0.71687 0.09708
Blue Matrix Column
: 0.14307 0.06061 0.7141
Device Mfg Desc
: IEC http://www.iec.ch
Device Model Desc
: IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB
Viewing Cond Desc
: Reference Viewing Condition in IEC61966-2.1
Viewing Cond Illuminant
: 19.6445 20.3718 16.8089
Viewing Cond Surround
: 3.92889 4.07439 3.36179
Viewing Cond Illuminant Type
: D50
Luminance
: 76.03647 80 87.12462
Measurement Observer
: CIE 1931
Measurement Backing
: 0 0 0
Measurement Geometry
: Unknown (0)
Measurement Flare
: 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant
: D65
Technology
: Cathode Ray Tube Display
Red Tone Reproduction Curve
: (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Green Tone Reproduction Curve   : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Blue Tone Reproduction Curve
: (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)
XMP Toolkit
: Image::ExifTool 9.53
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Stefan

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When i open in Lightroom a RAW-File of my s100fs shot at 400% dynamic range it appears too dark. Are there fixed Corrections I can apply?
Thanks.
In german:
raw von s100fs mit 400%DR in Lightroom
Hallo
wenn ich in Adobe Lightroom ein RAW-Foto mit 400% HDR öffne sind diese zu dunkel. Bisher wurschtelte ich dann halt rum bis es mir gefiehl oder benutzte einfach die "Auto" -Korrektur von Lightroom.
Gibts da irgendwelchen fixen Wertkorrekturen die man benutzen könnte?
Habe alle meine RAWs in DNG umgewandelt falls das relevant ist.
Dank und Gruß!

I read the article already but missed that part...thanks.
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Quote fom Dpreview:
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I use Lightroom on my (Lenovo) notebook. Because of the small screen size, I tried using it with an external (Samsung) display. However, when I open Lightroom on the external display, all the images suddenly seem way too dark. It is the case that this display is generally too dark, because when I view the same picture in a photo viewer or a browser it is not too dark. See for example this screenshot. On the left hand you see an image (export from Lightroom) in my browser, on the right hand the same image in Lightroom. You can clearly see it is much darker. When I view both images on the screen of the notebook itself, there is no difference between them.
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Weird and Complex.
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