Lightroom 5 - externer Editor: PS Elements 12

Hallo und frohe Weihnachten!
Nachdem es zu Weihnachten einen neuen iMac gab, bin ich gerade dabei diesen einzurichten und bei der Zusammenarbeit von Adobe Lightroom 5 mit Photoshop Elements 12 auf Probleme gestoßen - hoffentlich könnt Ihr mir helfen...
Ich öffne in Lightroom ein Foto und möchte diese über Foto - Bearbeiten in - Adobe Photoshop Elements 12 bearbeiten. Elements 12 öffnet sich auch, aber das zu bearbeitende Bild wird nicht angezeigt. (In Element 12 könnte ich es über Datei - Öffnen... öffnen und bearbeiten, dies finde ich aber absolut "suboptimal"!)
Was habe ich bei den Eintstellungen, in welchem der beiden Programme (Lightroom 5 / Element 12) falsch gemacht, dass das zu bearbeitende Bild nicht angezeigt wird? Hat jemand eine Lösung für mich?
Schon jetzt vielen Dank und noch schöne Weihnachtstage!
VG

Hallo Bernhard!
Vielen Dank für Deinen Tipp!
Das Problem saß wieder einmal vor dem Rechner: Geholfen hat mir dies: http://www.heintz-werner.de/showthread.php?28853-PSE-10-aus-lightroom-starten-geht-zwar-ab er-Bild-wird-nicht-geladen - ich hatte den falschen Pfad zum esternen Editor (Elements) ausgewählt...
Noch einen schönen 2. Weihnachtsfeiertag und einen guten und gesunden Rutsch ins neue Jahr!
VG

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I copied that file to the desktop, re-imported it into iPhoto, and I can access that photo again through iPhoto - everything works, even after I close and re-open iPhoto.
I reported this through the iPhoto Feedback option. I thought I'd share what I found in case it helps anyone else.

Welcome to the Apple Discussions. I get the same response when I follow your workflow. If you select the thumbnail of that photo and use the Photos ➙ Revert to Original menu option you will be able to view the photo in full size.
Evidently editing in iPhoto with an external editor puts the edits on the duplicated original file and puts that file in the same Masters subfolder as the first file was imported into. Once iPhoto is restarted the links are messed up and the Revert gets rid of the "edited" link and keeps the link to the file in the Masters folder.
It definitely is a bug. However, it's not taking up more space on the hard drive than the edit that resulted in a modified file linked to the original file. There still are just two files.
Subsequent edits to the file with the external editor result is the edits being added to the file with no problems if iPhoto is closed and relaunched. The downside is that if you make 3 edits to the file you can't go back one edit. It's non reversible. The edited version can be deleted leaving the untouched original version.
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So Old Toad, I have just gone from iPhoto 9 to iPhoto 11 and step by step this is what is happening for me.
In iPhoto 9 if I selected photoshop to alter an image it created one duplicate version of the image and put that into the modified folder and that edited image became the image you would see in the events viewer. All very logical.
Now iPhoto 11 is doing the same for me but is creating multiple duplicates ie. everytime I select photoshop to edit an image. One image I edited recently has now got 6 versions in the library. If that is the way iPhoto works then that will be fine as it is doing it's job for me but the caviat is have I got 6 times the memory space being used up or does it just appear that way? If the memory space useage isn't being increased then I am OK with this new way of doing things but if the memory space is being used up then it is a fiasco - especially as apple are concentrating on writing their systems to use up less space than before in line with current thinking.
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Total Number of Cores: 4
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