Lightroom and new Raw Converters

In Photoshop we will get about each 3 months new Raw-/DNG-converters.
This was in CS, CS2 and I think it will be also in CS3.
Does anyone know, how to integrate new raw-converters in Lightroom?
Will we get parallel with raw Converter 4.0 / 4.1 / 4.2 also new versions of lightroom (1.1, 1.2, ...)?
Achim Guhr
Nottuln Germany

LR has a method to get new-camera support and it will, so don't worry.

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Lightroom and Camera Raw

I am in the early stages of trying Lightroom 4. There are some great features and may purchase a copy after the trail ends.
However, I have a question about using Lightroom with older versions of Photoshop.
I made some changes to an image, mostly used the Lens Correction feature, changed the white balance and changed the tone curve as my images always look a little flat.
At the end of "developing" I like to add some sharpening. I prefer to use Photoshop for this as I use different mettods depending on what result I want.
When I chose Photo > Edit In > Photoshop CS4 (CS4 being the version of Photoshop I have) I get a message along the lines of Lightroom needing Camera Raw 6.7. If I select open anyway I see the original flat image before I made the changes in Lightroom. Is this correct.
My version of Photoshop is fully updated but the version of Camera Raw is 5.7. Can I get Photoshop to "use" Lightroom instead of Camera Raw?
I did once click a button that said something along the line of Use Lightroom, but Photoshop started to "do stuff" with the images I had imported into Lightroom. What was it doing?
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for any help.
Chris.

You should choose the option to open a copy with Lightroom settings. When you open an image from Lightroom into Photoshop, ACR is used to translate the adjustments made in Lightroom. Since you are using an older version, ACR cannot translate all of the adjustments. So it's best to let Lightroom create the copy first because it will include all of your Lightroom adjustments. It's really only a difference of WHEN the copy is made because after you make changes in Photoshop the new file has to be created anyway.

Lightroom and Canon RAW Files. THIS NEEDS TO GET RESOLVED!!!

I am EXTREMELY frustrated and unhappy with Lightroom's performance when it comes to processing my Canon 1D Mark II N's .cr2 files. I know others are having this issue with most other Canon models, and I KNOW there are other threads about this. However, I'm about to the point where I cannot stand to process images in Lightroom anymore, due to this frustrating situation.
I know this has to do with the fact that Canon doesn't release their proprietary RAW data, so LR has to "guess" what the image should look like when it is initially imported. HOWEVER, come on Adobe, can't you do a better job at GUESSING? My colors look like CRAP!
Now, before all of you jump on me about develop presets and all that, let me make a couple of things clear.
- I'm a professional wedding and portrait photographer. Not to sound like an ***, but I know what I'm talking about on this issue. Please don't start making a bunch of suggestions on how to change color space etc... It's all been tried before.
- I calibrate my monitor. This issue has nothing to do with that anyway.
- I DO NOT have any automatic presets set to run in lightroom on import OR export.
- I will not shoot JPEG. Don't say "just shot jpeg" and expect this to be solved.
Here's a screen shot of Lightroom running side by side with Canon's DPP software. For the record, I HATE DPP, but it provides SUPERIOR RESULTS.
DPP is on the left. LR is on the right. No develop settings or presets were applied - the images shown are SOOC after import.
http://meeksdigital.com/images/frustration/dpp-lr.jpg

Peter, You may have selected "Auto reset" in the "File numbering" item of the camera's set-up menu, in which case it will start numbering the images from 1 again after re-inserting the CF card. When importing the next time into LR it will see the same file names and tell you that it does not find any new photos to import. This process is determined by file name only in LR and it will import the same file name of different formats having the same prefix, like when you shoot RAW + JPG and have _MG_0123.CR2 and _MG_0123.JPG.

Lightroom and Camera Raw 3.7 discrepancy

After I process am image in Lightroom 1.0, I look to see if any highlights are burned out. Then if I open the same image in Camera Raw 3.7, it shows a considerably higher degree of highlights being burned out than Lightroom does. Has anyone noticed this difference? How would I know which program is giving me more accurate information?

ACR probably figures the blowing out slightly differently then LR, but assuming both are simply showing where one of the channels saturates, the difference is probably coming from the different white point of adobeRGB vs prophotoRGB (D65 vs D50), this will cause slight differences in where you'll blow out highlights since it shifts the color around slightly. If you set up ACR to render to ppRGB, you should see more or less the same blown out areas.
Also, keep in mind that what is shown is where the
result is blown out. You cannot see where one of the CCD or CMOS channels is blown out with ACR or lightroom as the white balance correction and rendering in the new color space distorts that information. That would be really useful information BTW, but I don't know how to get to it currently.

Color discrepancy between Lightroom and Camera Raw

I'm new to LR and came across a color issue when viewing the photos in LR.
When view the RAW in LR, I see a color discrepancy compare with ACR. The color in LR is more like the JPEG view in Windows Photo Viewer (an non color-managed application). I suspect it's a color space config but can't find any in LR as in PS.
When I changed my monitor's ICC profile to "SRGB IEC61966-2.1", all the applications, LR, ACR, WPV, look the same then. It's said that profile just for troubleshooting and should change back to monitor's profile. Can someone help to explain what's happen and what should I do to get consistent color? Thanks a lot!

It sounds like the monitor profile from the monitor manufacturer is not compatible with LR. This is a common problem, and you have confirmed it by temporarily switching to sRGB.
If the only profiles you have available are sRGB (which is consistent but may be wrong) and the monitor profile (which doesn’t work) then for more accurate color you’ll need to buy a hardware calibrator.
I use the i1DisplayPro. Others might use a Spyder or a ColorMunki, although the i1DisplayPro has some more detailed options for creating profiles (Matrix vs LUT or ICCv2 vs ICCv4) that can be necessary to make LR happy, or at least my preference is to have a more powerful program in case I do need to tweak things. I haven’t ever used a ColorMunki or Spyder so perhaps they work fine, too. I think the color-measuring hardware with the i1 is better, though. I guess you get what you pay for.

CS3 and lightroom raw converters change colour of 5D files when importing.

The problem is that lightroom and CS3 systematically go through raw 5D..CR2 photos and change colours, even when set to "as shot". I think part of the problem is that i upped the saturation in camera, and the raw converters have been stripping this away to desaturate colours... but in doing this they have taken too much away and left photos very desaturated and looking nothing like colours that were actually there.
I have taken some with all settings on camera default, yet still there is a slight but noticable shift in colour.
anyone shed any light on this, or had similar experience.
Ali.
P.s. Using vista, but same on windows XP.

>I think part of the problem is that i upped the saturation in camera, and the raw converters have been stripping this away to desaturate colours
The main problem is that you don't understand what a raw file is...the ONLY raw converter that can read settings set on the camera (other than exposure and ISO) are those that use the camera SDKin your case, DPP. A raw file has no real rendering and the raw converter must give it one. What you are seeing change is the difference between the Canon SDK and the Camera Raw default. And note that the Camera Raw "default" is just that, a default rendering. If you don't like it, you can change it and make the changes based on camera serial number and capture ISO as well.
What you need to do is forget the camera settings (except exposure and ISO) and concentrate on learning how to use Camera Raw to get the renderings you want...

Lightroom and DNG compatibility?

Will Lightroom read DNG converted from RAW from a camera that Lightroom doesn't support?

> "Barry what do you mean by converter? I am talking about taking a CR2 image and converting it to a DNG file."
I was talking about converting raw files in general to DNG files. (Not just CR2s). I was NOT talking about "raw conversion".
Adobe provide ACR, Lightroom, and the DNG Converter. They can all convert CR2s to DNGs (among other things). (They are all DNG converters and all raw converters, sharing core code).
Hasselblad-Imacon provide FlexColor which can convert their raw file formats to DNG. Pentax provide PHOTO Browser which can convert PEFs to DNG. Better Light supply ViewFinder for their scanning digital backs.
Then there are amateurs to who supply (typically free) converters for niche and minority and unofficial raw file formats to DNG: raw2dng; DNGForPowershot; SMaL to DNG; eMotionDng; etc:
http://www.barrypearson.co.uk/articles/dng/products.htm#converters
http://www.barrypearson.co.uk/articles/dng/products.htm#manufacturers
I suggest you following those links and see just what is out there.

File appearence not the same in PS CS4, LR2 and Camera RAW

I've just noticed that files as displayed in Lightroom 2 or in Camera RAW, when opened in Photoshop CS4 have a different appearence. In Photoshop the file appears much flatter and with considerably less saturation and dynamic range. When you compare the files beside each other in RAW and in Lightroom, they look the same. I have tried exporting the files to Photoshop from Lightroom using the "open with Lightroom Edits" and Edit a Copy and Edit the original, but the results are the same. After editing a photo in Photoshop and saving it back into Lightroom, the photo appears very saturated in the Lightroom or in Camera RAW. I don't know how long this has been this way, but now that I hace noticed it, it is driving me nuts.
Thanks for your help
Steve

Christopher thank you so much for responding and you have pinpointed the problem. The problem was the color settings. Color settings were set to sRGB and when I changed it to ProPhoto RGB Photoshop rendered file as it appears in the files in Lightroom and Camera RAW. I shoot in ProPhotoRGB and that seems to be why the images looked so flat when imported using sRGB.
Thanks for taking the time to help
Steve

PS, LR and Camera Raw

I'm sorry but, at today I use PS only with my CAAD images.
My Photoshop CS 6 extended in Cloud mode also contains Lightroom and Camera Raw?
I'm sorry for my English.

Giovanni,
I think your question is not clear. Could you please go ahead and explain the question in detail or attach screenshots to explain the issue.
Mandhir

I have Lightroom 1.4.1 and I just started shooting the Nikon D700. I cannot get Lightroom to read my new raw files, help...

I have Lightroom 1.4.1 and I just started shooting the Nikon D700. I cannot get Lightroom to read my new raw files, help... Is there a plug in or update I can get? I can't afford new software after new camera and new lense!

Lightroom 1.4.1 does not support native (NEF) files from the D700 because the camera didn't even exist when it was released. To get support you have two options: upgrade to Lr 2.x (paid for upgrade) or convert your NEF files to DNG.
DNG converter 5.4 can be downloaded from http://www.adobe.com/downloads/ (see right hand side of page)

How can I import an Aperture Catalog into Lightroom and retain the RAW file as well as the files with the edits?

I have several catalogs in Aperture that I would like to import to Lightroom 5 and I want to retain the original RAW files as well as the files with the edits. How can I do this?

Well, you can bring in the raw file (without edits), and you can bring in a rendered RGB file (e.g. jpeg or tiff) with edits baked in, but what you CAN'T do is bring in a raw file, with the non-destructive Aperture edits, and have Lr translate those Aperture edits into Lightroom edits.
Put another way: no raw converter/editor can understand the edits of any other raw converter/editor. So, you have to work with a rendered version, and/or re-edit from scratch in a new raw converter/editor.
PS - it would be feasible to write a rough translator which approximated raw edits in one world into edits in another, but such does not exist yet for Aperture -> Lightroom, that I know of.

I use a mac ios and shoot raw in a cannon 5d mark ii and shortly upon import of my images lightroom darkens and changes my images. This has happened before but not every time. The strange part is my last shoot had the same camera setting but this did not

I use a mac ios and shoot raw in a cannon 5d mark ii and shortly upon import of my images lightroom darkens and changes my images. This has happened before but not every time. The strange part is my last shoot had the same camera setting but this did not happen. The images i have now i can not use after lightroom has automatically altered them even if i try editing back to how they looked upon import

First thing to do is to change the default camera profile applied in Lightroom to camera standard (assuming that you shoot Canon or Nikon). Also make sure that your camera is NOT set up to use any of the HDR modes. Nikon calls those Active Dynamic Lighting. On Canons you often see things like highlight priority mode or "Auto Lighting Optimizer". Make sure that the picture style is set to standard and that for newer Canons the HDR mode is turned off. Most of the HDR modes simply underexpose the image and then add an instruction in the raw file to compensate for this to prevent highlights from being blown out. This causes more noise in the shadows and if you know what you are doing there is no point to this as you should simply expose correctly and get the highest quality raw.
Lastly, make sure that in Lightroom you have not checked "Apply Auto Tone Adjustments" in Preferences->Presets. This should make the default rendering of the raw files the same as the in-camera jpeg (what the camera shows on the back even if you shoot raw) but still give you all the latitude of raw files.

Curious question about Lightroom previews and Camera Raw Cache

Posted in the Flickr Lightroom Group as well:
I have noticed something about the Lightroom (3.6) previews and Camera Raw cache that have me puzzled.
I create a brand new empty catalog and purge the Camera Raw Cache.
Then I import ONE Nikon RAW (NEF) file with dimensions 2592 x 3872 (10 megapixels - 10,036,224 pixels).
Next I export that NEF file to an uncompressed 8-bit TIFF file. You would expect the size of that TIFF file to be roughly 30 megabytes (10 megapixels x 3 bytes per RGB value) and in fact the TIFF file is 30,135,830 bytes in size. If you export the same TIFF file but specify ZIP compression the resulting file size is 10,834,038 bytes. Obviously the compression obtained here is going to be highly specific to the image but so far no surprises.
During import I specify render 1:1 previews and I go into Loupe mode and view the entire image at 1:1 size. I also visit the develop module and do a bunch of manipulations on the image but no cropping.
At the conclusion of all of that I exit from Lightroom and examine the size of the Camera Raw Cache folder as well as the Lightroom previews folder. It would be my expectation that the previews folder should have a rendered full image and that the Camera Raw Cache should also have a rendered form of the raw data. What would you expect the size of those respective folders to be?
In fact - in my trials the previews folder totals a mere 1,675,264 bytes and the Camera Raw Cache which contains one DAT file corresponding to the one cached image is merely 267,374 bytes. This does not seem like nearly enough bits to preserve the rendered image nor is there a full size image tucked away in the actual catalog either - that file is not large enough to contain that. And yet I can use Loupe mode at 1:1 size and move from image to image with no loading delays (even when importing multiple files).
I'm wondering if I've missed something obvious in my analysis and if not, whether someone might care to speculate as to what magic Adobe is practicing here. Even if we grant them some special algorithm to compress their previews I don't see how they can achieve a compression so much greater than the ZIP-compressed TIFF file achieves.
And for those that might think to ask - I've repeated these experiments with multiple raw images and on both the PC and MAC platforms.
I look forward to some answers or interesting theories or perhaps someone might replicate the experiment and report findings.

MadMan and Hal - thanks so much.
So that was my D'Oh moment of what I was missing - the use of re-rendered JPGS as previews. That certainly does fit with the file sizes I am seeing. I had naively assumed that the previews might have tried to preserve the full fidelity of the image - But as you suggest that full fidelity is likely only there in the develop module.
This perhaps explains another observation from the Develop module - moving from one image to another might display "Loading" either briefly or across a longer duration. My guess is that the length of the loading process might have to do more with what is cached in RAM than cached on disk in the camera raw cache. More of a shame then that 64-bit Lightroom on 64-Bit Windows cannot grab more RAM than it seems to do at present.

Lightroom v1.2 and canon raw

I am a new user of lightroom have had it for only a week,have just purchased a 40D imported my first lot of raw files without any problems. Removed images from Cf card and took more photos went to import them into lightroom and all that happens is I get a message "no photos were found to import". I have read that canon raw was not supported in lightroom or has this been rectified in v1.2 as it did import the first batch of photos.
Can some one enlighten me on what may have occurred.
thank you Peter

Peter, You may have selected "Auto reset" in the "File numbering" item of the camera's set-up menu, in which case it will start numbering the images from 1 again after re-inserting the CF card. When importing the next time into LR it will see the same file names and tell you that it does not find any new photos to import. This process is determined by file name only in LR and it will import the same file name of different formats having the same prefix, like when you shoot RAW + JPG and have _MG_0123.CR2 and _MG_0123.JPG.

New to Lightroom, problem importing raw CR2 files.

I am new to Lightroom and am having trouble importing my CR2 raw photo files. In the "import" section I select my SD card that contains the raw image files. All .jpeg files on the card show up as thumbnails but the CR2 files show "preview not available for this file." I select one of the CR2 thumbnails anyway, select a destination folder on my external hard drive and click "import." A window pops up that says, "this file is not recognized by the raw support format in Lightroom." I'm using Lightroom 4.4 and am working with a Windows Vista operating system (on an old, junky laptop). My camera is a Canon 70D and am shooting in RAW+JPEG. I also downloaded the Adobe .DNG converter 6.3 to try to convert the files before importing them into Lightroom and it is also not recognizing and importing my CR2 files. Not sure what to do at this point. Any suggestions?

I would recommend downloading DNG Converter 8.2 which is compatible with Vista.
The latest version 8.6 requires W7 or W8
Use this download link:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5646

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