Lightroom/Bridge/InDesign

I have been urging a friend of mine to switch over to Lightroom, as an alternative to Bridge/Photoshop, as he's currently doing. He's open to the change but has asked me a good question that I can't answer.
He does a lot of work with InDesign and he has the ability to drag and drop photos from Bridge, into InDesign. Quite a nice feature I must admit and something he will be unable to do with Lightroom. Is it possible for any edits he makes in Lightroom, to still appear in Bridge, to maintain his "drag and drop" capability with InDesign?
I am using InDesign myself a lot more lately and I too would like to continue with the ability to drag and drop.
Bob

Sorry Tom but that doesn't work. Lr can save the XMP develop tags (or write a sidecar) easily enough, but:
Bridge doesn't read or respect develop tags in non-raw files (try making a JPEG black and white, Ctrl=S, then open in Bridge).
InDesign can't place raw files (neither does it bother reading the develop tags in anything it can place)
The working solution is to develop in Lr then export your images to non-raw files (JPG/TIFF), so you get a baked result that can be placed into InDesign (and will look right in Bridge / Explorer / Finder).

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Just upgraded to Creative Cloud from elements 9 where images are stored in Organizer. How do I bring them into Creative Cloud and should I download them to Lightroom, Bridge, or Photoshop itself? Any suggestions?
It's important to keep in mind that the picture files are NOT stored in the Organizer. They are not stored in Lightroom or Bridge either...
The organizer is based on a catalog which stores the pictures properties, mainly the location of the pictures on your drive(s). It's the same idea of catalogs in Lightroom, and the nice thing is that Lightroom can convert organizer catalogs to its own format. The most obvious way for you will be to use Lightroom.
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Before an explanation of having LR and Bridge/ACR see each other's edits, please note that the global things you say you are doing in ACR/Bridge can be done just as easily in LR and maybe easier, using the Sync... button or Copy/Paste settings and you'll save yourself a lot of grief and needing to be careful if you forget about Bridge/ACR for en masse things whenever possible, as long as you are using LR with the same images.
Ok now for how to make Bridge and ACR see each other's changes:
Bridge stores edits in an XMP sidecar, while LR stores them internally and to synchronize them is not always as easy as you'd expect; however, if you manually read and write the XMP files from LR then you can make it work.
First, you should make sure that your default settings for toning and everything else are identical between ACR and LR otherwise LR and ACR will use their defaults for things that aren't specified in the XMP files and you might have differences.
If you do things in Bridge/ACR as your very first step, then it should generate XMP files that have the same base filename as the RAW but with an XMP extension. When you import files into LR then it will use things it sees in the XMP sidecar files for its initial settings, but then it internalizes them and you have to do something to make it write the changes back out to the XMP files if you are going to edit them in Bridge, again.
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